THE FOB ARCHIVE

A team of archivists dedicated to finding FOB lost media, transcribing FOB’s early history, and more. Join our Discord to help the team get updates: fobarchive.com

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Interview with Mark Rose of Spitalfield

Last summer, we visited Chicago and got to interview Mark Rose of Spitalfield at the karaoke night he used to host at the Welcome Back Lounge. Mark is one of the nicest people we’ve been able to meet!

We chatted about Spitalfield, as well as some of his older bands like Landmine. If you like deep Chicago band lore… this interview is for you. You can find it now on our website under the FOBAT Interviews tab.

As a bonus, check out some of these photos we’ve archived of Spitalfield. We’re hoping to eventually have a page for Spitalfield on our website, just like the other bands we’ve posted about before :)

PHOTO CREDITS: Dani Jackson (1), Scott Heisel for PunkNews (2-4), Punk - O - Ryan (5), Mark Spieth of MSZone (6-7)

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Fall Out Boy's Local Roots

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After our trip to Chicago and its surrounding suburbs last year, we’ve been granted an amazing opportunity. On July 18th, we will be doing a presentation about Fall Out Boy’s roots at the Wilmette Public Library! Come watch the presentation at 1:00 PM CST. This event is 100% FREE to attend.

If you are not able to get to Wilmette on that day, do not fear. We plan to stream this presentation, as well as record it for viewing afterwards. (Specific info on where we will stream will come later). In our Linktree, you will find more information about our presentation VIA the Wilmette Library website. 

Feel free to DM us if you have any questions. If you would like to stay updated on our Chicago adventures, please join our Discord (also in our Linktree). Thank you again to the Wilmette Public Library for this opportunity!

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From Under The Cork Tree: The Lost Demos

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A few days ago, 16 demos from Fall Out Boy’s “From Under The Cork Tree” leaked mysteriously via CDs mailed to fans and dropped in record stores. Did you manage to find or get a CD? Comment, DM, or tag us! We are currently working on a video in collaboration with Lost Media content creator LSuperSonicQ diving deeper into the songs.

We talked to Patrick about these then-lost demos in our interview last November. So far, we are aware of 5 CDs that have been found, but the messages from the so-called ‘The Secret Order’ behind this indicate there are more CDs. If you are one of the lucky ones to get a CD, let us know! Check out our work-in-progress Google Doc for information such as metadata and tracking of different CDs. Also, you can find the 16 songs uploaded onto archive.org, or by following the link below:

From Under The Cork Tree Demos : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Demos from Fall Out Boy's 2005 album From Under The Cork Tree

Our WIP Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3E7b_Uo3FPVHcNYq5D_psfKTD5LMsVRIxxdGk6gQAc

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504 Plan, Knockout, and Fall Out Boy: Pop-punk trio

You may be wondering, where IS the Fall Out Boy Archive? Well, the Fall Out Boy Archive is on our website and Google Drive! Both of these can be found on our Linktree (link in bio). FOBAT Staff have been working hard these past few weeks to organize our Google Drive and website. A lot more of our archive is now public for your viewing pleasure. 

Here are some photos of Chicago pop-punk bands Knockout and 504 Plan. At one point in the scene, these two bands were on the same track as Fall Out Boy to become really big bands. They were all also good friends. On our website, you’ll find archives of their music, shows, merch, etc. Plus, we just finished writing our Knockout article!  Some bands don’t have nearly as much material saved. For example, we have no footage of Knockout to display. :( By putting what we do have out there, we’re hoping those holding on to rare materials may come forward.

That’s where you come in! FOBAT now has a submission form. You can submit videos, pictures, even MP3 files, and webpages. If you think we’d be interested, send it our way! Check our Linktree to find the submission form.

Enjoy these photos of Knockout and 504 Plan. We had a fun time researching these bands, and there’s still more to learn! 

Knockout photos: Credits to Moosick Zine!

504 Plan photos: Posted by Nick Scimeca on the archived Infectkids website.

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Art trade with @crickasfrick !!🫶

Two Patricks singing together as one collective soul.

Commissions are OPEN!! (see pinned post)

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Peep this piece in the new @fobarchiveteam interview!! Thank you again for including my art! 🫶

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Out now: Our interview with Patrick Stump of Fall Out Boy. We discuss every inch of his musical career spanning over 20 years: his first ever band and the show where FOB got their name, clearing the air around decade-old FOB demo rumors, reflections on his solo album Soul Punk, his hardcore music features, and more! 

Thank you endlessly to Patrick Stump for his participation both in this interview and in our ongoing archive efforts! Despite his busy schedule, he has made time for passionate fans like us to engage one-on-one. We never intended to be an “official” archive by any means. After we reached out to the producer of Take This To Your Grave Sean O’Keefe in 2024, Patrick made the effort to get in contact with us!

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24TH ANNIVERSARY OF FALL OUT BOY’S FIRST EVER SHOW

The members of Fall Out Boy seem not to want to remember their first show. The band has gone on record a few times, recalling their performance on the night of October 9th, 2001, as embarrassing. Even if the band hadn’t honed their skills or refined their lineup yet, the circumstances around this night make the story all the more interesting.

Since posting about this exactly a year ago, we’ve uncovered key details about the show from people who were there and played, so we wanted to clear up misconceptions. We’ve refined our format over the past year, and felt this subject does much better in video format.

More about the other bands that played that night:

Stillwell - From Chicago, had a classic early-mid 90s emo sound that eventually turned math rocky. Justin runs a record label called Forge Again Records now. They played with bands such as Frontside, Last Ditch Effort, *tomsawyer, and La Mantra de Fhiqria.

Examination of the… - From Sioux Falls, was on this show as part of a tour. As you can see in the video, their drummer was wearing only a cheetah print speedo, for some reason.

Insidious/The Blindfold Parade - From Milwaukee, Insidious changed their name to The Blindfold Parade sometime around this show, and then proceeded to break up in March of ‘02.

Videos used:

Novena, Fireside Bowl 2002 - Ricardo Cozzolino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ4B9VyHiMA 

My Heart Will Always Be the B-side to My Tongue: The Story

Racetraitor July 28, 2017 - hate5six https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVrr6hWF7vw 

Examination of the... Live @ DePaul Chicago 2001-10-09 - Forge Again Records https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLX75WenB90 

Stillwell live at Depaul University in Chicago 2001-10-09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Ab_12eAzo 

Insidious / Blindfold Parade live in Chicago 2001-10-09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYg0Hoquvp4 

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Hey there, it’s been a while, hasn’t it? Our team spent this past summer hard at work with various projects, but also spent most of July traveling. Here’s a summary of what we’ve been busy with. Thanks to those who have bought FOBAT merch, I was able to afford a nice microphone, so I don’t sound awful now!

A lot happened on these two trips. Some fun, some scary, and some really important to our goals. We truly hope some of you are interested in our blog, as we worked super hard on it. Things are now ramping back up at FOBAT HQ, haha. We’re working hard to write up our articles, make our materials public, and also preparing for some big interviews… If you have suggestions on what you want to see us investigate next, let us know!

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JOE TROHMAN’S HISTORY IN THE HARDCORE SCENE

Joe was the founder of Fall Out Boy, but before the founding of the band he did a lot more in the hardcore scene besides being in hardcore bands. In this video, we talk about how he created his own Zine in high school and helped take pictures for a band called Evolution!

Big thank you to Jeremy for giving us more details about Evolution, major help with us figuring out what Evolution was as a band and Joe’s connection with the band.

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THE EARLIEST RECORDED MUSIC BY PATRICK STUMP - He… raps?

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You read that right. After a year-long search, FOBAT has finally found the holy grail: the 5-song EP from Patrick Stump’s first-ever band, Public Display of Infection, a high school metalcore band. It’s as legendary as it sounds.

Patrick was only 14 here. Although the tape has its obvious flaws, there’s definitely talent that shines through from all of the people in the band- but Patrick especially. We’re so happy to have found this, because it really paints the full picture of Patrick’s growth in mastering this art form, from PDI to Patterson to early Fall Out Boy, to now.

Shout-out to everyone involved in this arduous hunt, big involvements and small: Joe, Brian S., Beldo, Sean O’Keefe!!, Dave Hofer, the other PDI members, Jamie, everyone active in our Discord server in general, that guy who asked about PDI on Twitter a decade ago, and of course, Patrick himself.

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PETE WENTZ'S LOST MTV SHOW PILOT

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Pete has always been a jack of all trades, even in his little hardcore bands in the 90s, and continuing into his stardom. Us at the FOB Archive are consistently impressed by just how much *stuff* this guy has done- most intriguingly, when he dips his toes into acting. Watch this video to learn all about Punk Is Dad, Pete's attempt at a sitcom for MTV that is currently mostly lost. What do you think? Would this have been a killer show, or a major flop?

Fun fact for those who have read this all: This isn't Pete's only stint in TV show making. He also tried to make a show called "Permanent Vacation" that has virtually no information available on it. He also pitched a kids cartoon about protecting the environment called "Bronze Blue" with Mark Hoppus of Blink-182. Pete would have voiced a fish rockstar, but the show never made it past the pitch bible, which is viewable online.

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Nick Scimeca's Photojournals

Fans may be familiar with some of these pictures, but did you know they come from old photojournals made by Nick Scimeca? Nick is a close friend of Pete’s who designed a ton of classic FOB, Decaydance, and Clandestine merch.

He designed the iconic bartskull logo for Clandestine Industries and created the short-lived but influential scene social platform “Friends or Enemies”.

The captions listed on each photo are from Nick’s journal. If you’d like to view the entire photojournals for yourself, you can view them on the Wayback Machine at this URL: http://www.nicholasscimeca.com/photo.htm

More photos past the cut!

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FUCK CITY: Record label, clothing line, borderline frat house

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Everything you need to know about FUCK CITY, Andy Hurley’s group of hardcore friends and their various music projects. For how influential FC was in the Fall Out Boy fandom over a decade ago, it seems to be mostly forgotten by the average fan, even though Andy and his buddies are all still good friends. We wanted to educate fans on some of the FC lore we’ve unearthed with some research.

Unfortunately, a lot of FC-related media is lost as of now, such as their website’s messageboards and multiple vlogs. We’re constantly working on efforts to find these lost gems and more FOB-related lost media. Once again, a big thanks to @tossmyambitions (Twitter) for voicing this post!

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Recently, we managed to attract Andy’s attention on his livestream with @beyondthetats after he mentioned having been in hardcore bands in high school. We’ve done some extensive research on the beginnings of Andy’s participation in the scene, and are here to share it all with you! Thank you to our amazing mod @tossmyambitions (Twitter), who both voiced this reel and provided a lot of useful background knowledge about other hardcore bands in the Chicago and Milwaukee scenes!

Part 2 about Fuck City coming in a few days!

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THE SONG THAT GOT PATRICK STUMP INTO FALL OUT BOY:

Fall Out Boy fans interested in the band’s early history may know that Patrick was “auditioned” for the band by Joe and Pete because Patrick had sent Joe some MP3 files of solo songs he had worked on. For a long time, what exactly these songs were was a complete mystery to fans. With the research that we and our FOBAT Discord server members have conducted, we now are extremely close to finding the audio for one of these songs. Watch to learn about the history of the song itself and the search surrounding it.

Shoutout to @glassslipping for getting Patrick to talk about this! Although he doesn’t mention the song by name in the clip, we know it’s been on his mind to begin with ;) Also a special shoutout to our server member Jamie for providing some of the earliest info in this search.

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xFIRSTBORNx - The untold story

Pete Wentz has been a bit more open about his time in the Chicago hardcore scene as of late, giving a great interview in the Antimatter Zine with Texas is the Reason frontman Norman Brannon. However, he mostly speaks about his inspirations and general presence in the scene. What about the bands that came before Arma Angelus? These bands were very poorly documented, so FOBAT decided to begin researching them.

We hope you all enjoy the new format for posts. We’re trying out new things in hopes that it catches onto the algorithm a bit more. Tell us us what you like and don’t like. And yes, Joey speaking here- I know I need a microphone… I’ll get around to it!

For more information on xFirstbornx + Arma Angelus and the full interview with Tim Miller, please visit our website: www.fobarchive.com !

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EXTINCTION SAVED CHICAGO HXC

Fronted by Jim Grimes, Extinction was integral in bringing local hardcore shows back to Chicago in the 90s. What’s fascinating is that Pete Wentz was able to be a part of this important band. On YouTube, Pete can be seen eagerly watching Extinction at the Krishna Temple in January of ‘97, and by the end of that year, he’s performing with the band. Pete was rumored to be seen in the audience of the Extinction reunion show in ‘05 where (Hey)Chris took his place playing bass on stage. Pete has credits for recording bass on the band’s only album, Hypocrisy Breeds Traitors. 

Here are two photos of Pete and Adam Bishop (who were also in Arma Angelus at the time) playing Extinction’s last show on July 29th, 2000 at Arlington Heights KOC. These photos were sent to us by Chris Ternes who hosted HXC fests at his school, Knox College, featuring bands like Arma Angelus and Thursday. Thank you Chris!