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This first question was me and I just wanted to add a couple of clarifications.
First, I didn't say Cas was my third favorite. I said he was my very favorite character ever. Also when I started to ask the question, I was immediately interrupted and told no by the Creation person. I have a video of me with her extremely angry reaction next to me but I'm not crazy about the idea of posting a video of a stranger. Maybe I could try to figure out a way to blur her or something. But yeah, creation 100% tried to shut my question down.
I just don't understand how it's ok for Cliff to ask Jared about getting fucked in jail but how dare I ask about love that happened in canon!
Transcript of the question and answer under the cut.
Thank you, OP, for asking this question and thank you for confirming that Creation tried to stop you from asking about the literal aired plot of the show. I was so mad about this question last night that I drafted a post with a transcript but I said lemme just sleep on this first. I'm so mad in cw sniper. I'm so mad that they tried to stop you as if they can still censor fans when they had a canon love confession air on television.
I'm irate because it is so obvious that they have banned Misha from saying that Cas was love with Dean.
Misha's panel answer exactly mirrored answers Jensen's given on "not interpreting art. It is also complete bullshit. This 5 minute long rambling answer put the entire weekend in context for me, but it also needs its own context.
November 2020, four days after the episode aired, Misha called the confession Castiel's "homosexual declaration of love." There was no "interpretation" to define - there was no question about what Bobo, Misha, and Speight had intended when they wrote, acted, and directed that scene. (x)
"so Castiel makes this homosexual declaration of love which is amazing that that happened and then he um *clears throat* dies right after which plays into a timeless Hollywood trope of kill the gays which then also like pisses offā¦ because we give then we take away."
By September Misha was calling it Cas's "Declaration of Love" but openly explained he had to fight to get it one the air. - Galaxy Con.
"I think him making that declaration of loveā¦ I cared about that. I fought for it. & ya know five years prior wouldāve said, āThereās no fucking way theyāll let us do that.ā (x)
In March 2021 Misha said in a digital answer that he's "not going to speak as Castiel because Warner Brothers has specifically forbidden it" (x) Even as other actors from the show do ridiculous things as their character on the regular (x)
In September 2021 at Momento Con Misha again said he had to fight for it and confirmed that Destiel questions used to be outright banned at cons. (x)
Now, nearly a year after the show ended they tried to stop OP from asking this question. There had only been one other question about Destiel all weekend. That's not a coincidence. Alex's face while the question was asked, Jensen's cautiousness when a fan asked when the actors knew Cas loved Dean.
They've clearly banned Misha from answering this question.
"Yes. And I will say one more thing.Ā Which is there's certainly no interpretations of that that I'm going to say:
Uh. .... It's like such a mine field. ... Uh (long pause)
I don't know. I know what I- I know how I approached it. And I feel really good about it. .... And - I'll be honest with you. ... I kind of feel like that came across.Ā Um. So. There you go. ... I gave you.Ā I gave you the best I could."
I want to be clear. This is homophobia. But this is also gaslighting.
TRANSCRIPT OF THE QUESTION AND ANSWER UNDER THE CUT
OP: Okay my question oh, my question is about the confession scene?
No? I'm not allowed to ask about the confession?Ā
Misha: Yes you are. (King shit)
OP: okay,Ā thank you.Ā Um.
When - Cas's last scene. he says that - he says that there was something he knows that he wanted um, something he wanted but he knows he can't have.Ā and I kind of felt like... he knows he has Dean's friendship.Ā He knows that they're family and he knows that he's forgiven.
So I was wondering what your interpretation - of what Cas's ultimate - what he wants that he can't have.Ā
(Alex is laughing, knowingly)Ā
MISHA:Ā *sighs* well, you know,Ā I wish I actually remembered the text better and I'm sure that you can call it out for me. *clears throat* I have my own interpretation.Ā Ā
I know what was going on in Cas's head because I was Cas.Ā
Um and that gives me,Ā um, some insight.Ā Ā
But I I- I don't really *want* to? Break it apart in NuancedĀ ways from my interpretation because then that becomes like the definitive answer for what was you know happening and I-
Like,Ā someone asked me to interpret one of my poems the other day and first of all I have no fucking idea what it's about, but secondly
Um I don't like to do that with art in general.Ā I I think it's kind of um - I like the I like - I like the audience to analyze what has been presented by the artist and not have the artist come out and explain this is what I meant by knowing that I couldn't have um so.Ā
Yeah. I don't know.Ā Yes.Ā Ā
Also yes.Ā Also because it's like particularly I mean.
I think if this was like a fleeting insignificant moment on the show it would be one thing and I probably would weigh in on fun because this is like you know it's a seminal moment it's my characters last scene on the show, uh, I don't want *my* interpretation of it to be like the definitive word. I want it to be everyone's personal Journey.
Yes. And I will say one more thing.Ā Which is there's certainly no interpretations of that that I'm going to say
Uh
It's like such a mine field.Ā
Uh (long pause)
I don't know.Ā
I know what I- I know how I approached it. And I feel really good about it.
And - I'll be honest with you.Ā
I kind of feel like that came across.Ā Um. So. There you go.Ā Ā
I gave you.Ā
I gave you the best I could.Ā
I'm not... really terribly well trained as an actor so I could have probably done a better job, but I gave you the best I could.Ā Ā and I think I tried to convey,Ā I think I tried to convey *my* intention um as clearly and and and honestly as I could.Ā Ā
Alex:Ā Your beautiful, lovely,Ā throbbing intention
Misha smiles.Ā
They fist bumpĀ
Alex:Ā no I'm I'm making light of things but I do feel, on a serious moment, don't worry I'll get back to Dick jokes, the secrets that you get to build into the work our kind of my favorite part of the whole thing. It's I need to tell you something, I get to tell you my secret, with or without judgment and just with acceptance of that moment which I always really loved so.
this is honestly the worst thing that happened the entire convention, in my personal opinion.
at least when jackles gives vague answers I can pretend that itās ONLY about playing nice so he can continue producing spn. because jackles acts that way outside of creation cons too. it makes sense. and I want him to make more spn, so I can put up with it.
but THIS?? misha has been (relatively) open lately about the confession and casā queerness, but as soon as heās at a creation event he has to talk like this? and an actual real-life fan was fucking berated about it and was almost fucking silenced at the mic??? if they hadnāt been brave enough to ask into the mic if itās allowed, and had Misha answer like that, they would have been silenced. fuck that.
I donāt want to fucking give creation my fucking money but I donāt want the homophobes to just have complete control over these events that are supposed to be fun and are a HUGE source of fandom news and content. like I donāt even know what the solution is here, other than try to show up in numbers and attempt not to be fucking kicked off the mic or out of the fucking building.
Oh let me tell you, I knew 100% what I was doing when I made sure to say that into the mic! I also tried to craft my question so that it already rules out friendship, brotherhood, and forgiveness since Cas already knew he had those things. Literally we all know there is no other answer to Cas' question than romantic love but after JP's rant, this needed to be on record. Stop trying to say Cas gave his life for what he ALREADY had.
Anyway I'm trying to figure out how to share the video of me and the con person without pulling a JP and exposing someone who was just doing what they were told. Anyone know how to blur a face but still show the seething fury? LOL
The fact that Casā first secret was heās beginning to feel. The fact that Casā last secret was he was feeling love. The fact that he confessed both, privately, to Dean.
ok IT HAPPENS IN 11x11 INTO THE MYSTIC BUT BEFORE I GET TO THE EXACT MOMENT. context:
1. casifer hand-on-shoulder. intimate moment ALL the crueler because we know itās a deception. also this comes right on the heels of dean admitting that he has āa connectionā with amaraāhe is evaluating what āattractionā means because he is desperately hoping he is NOT attracted to godās evil sister. this means he has to think about what attraction DOES mean to him.
2. dean gets targeted by the banshee (because he is vulnerable. yes he WILL obsessively analyze what the shit that means)
3. mildred can tell heās āpiningā and tells him to āfollow his heartā
in this episode dean has confronted 1) ācasā out of his jacket and also touching him 2) the definition of attraction 3) the fact that he has been targeted on account of some kind of vulnerability 4) the fact that he is Very Obviously romantically pining for somebody (who we KNOW is not amara, based on writer input). dean is THINKING. man is RUMINATING. keep that in mind here comes the pinpoint
first off...laying in bed trying VERY hard to sleep. unable to sleep. he sits up.
REALIZATION FACES? EPIPHANY FACE?
this moment is so long please i couldnāt fit all the caps in
this moment is so long please i couldnāt fit all the caps in
oh sickening. whatever he is realizing (insert eggplant emoji) led directly to this face. which i cannot name but itās the same face i make whenever i think about MY life too hard. maybe i will call it Dawning Reality. SICKENING he is sickened and i am also sickened
hello. head in hands. fun fact: other times head has been in hands includes the 15x18 revelation
and then for the final shot of the episode we get...slow zoom on his face...his staunch american man face....cut up and bruised and all alone in the darkness. he is VULNERABLE he is HAVING A MOMENT he is considering the fact that angels donāt have the equipment to care and that whenever they try they break apart.
please let me stress how absolutely long and devoid of any other focus this scene is. we are watching his epiphany and his reaction to WHAT? to what he has been percolating on all day. someone pointing out how heartsick he is (NOT for amara) the way he feels around amara (NOT attraction) so what is his epiphany? what is he so conflicted over? heās figured it out. connections attraction pining following his heart. the way he feels around cas. the way he feels about cas. he canāt follow his FUCKING heart
more from the script because robbie thompson is SICK and DEPRAVED.
bullet ONE dean will 1) hide his worry from sam. big brother instinct. 2) WORRY so hard. he is so worried all the time please you see this guy (COSMIC ENTITY) after a while (FEW DAYS) and you greet him with grumpiness because what else are you supposed to say? you miss him?
BULLET TWO another piece of the puzzle falls into place. how come dean knows cas better than sam? theyve known each other the same amount of time. open concern about him....but not too open. not TOO vulnerable. mr thompson....
same scene TKO. dean brushing aside the idea of weakness per fuckin usual....yeah ok why is he sitting up late at night and pulling his hair then. āoverthinking itā says the ceo of overthinking things
bullet three im dead. im dead already. hes trying to figure something out shine the light on me and im dead this is a fucking epiphany break your heart imprisoned and tortured in love song goodbye
the thing people forget about the classic deancas scenes, and that i frankly appreciate for its comedic effect, is the absolutely jarring contrast to whatever the fuck sam is doing at the time - dean and cas having their little āhereās your coat backā moment while sam is strapped to a chair getting electroshocked by a demon vs. dean almost getting beat up to death by cas in that crypt while sam is spray painting and telling meg the entire story of his last breakup
Okay, I know this was about early seasons Deancas scenes but Iām bringing this post back because I rewatching 15x18 (AKA the āchurch weddingā scene) and CANNOT stop laughing at the fact that while Dean and Cas are discussing what to do with the Occultumā¦
ā¦Poor Sam is SINGLE-HANDEDLY holding down the doors against a pack of literal hellhounds.
And the scene just keeps jumping back to him! While theyāre just talkinā! And he is literally struggling for his entire life!!
Even when Jack disappears!! They just keep standing there arguing!! Instead of going to help Sam hold down the doors!! Dean, who was once traumatically killed by hellhounds!! Cas, who canonically can lift an anvil!!
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOMEONE PLEASE GO HELP THIS POOR BOY
Donāt forget when Sam was being tortured by Miss British while Dean and Cas had their little guy reunion and Mary contemplated her eldest sonās sexuality
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