it might just be because im sleep deprived from jetlag rn but this r/relationship_advice post is making me cry actual tears of laughter. i read the post at first and was like yeah pretty standard whatever but im nosey so i clicked on the drawing op linked and i was not mentally prepared for it. putting it under a read more so you can get the same experience as i did
Lois Lane ragebaits Superman during an interview, pours half a container of sugar into about 4 ounces of coffee and dictates an article taking down lex luthor while driving a hovercraft. They nailed her. We are so back.
Barbara was Cass' teacher, and that bled into every aspect of their relationship. For Cass, Babs was the one who solved problems, who could explain things in a way she'd understand:
Batgirl (2000) #5
Babs was the person Cass went to whenever she had a problem, big or small. Despite Cass admiring and loving Bruce so much, whenever she needed advice she always went to Babs.
Batgirl (2000) #17 // 23 // 42
Cass is so attentive in all these instances. She often reads too much into Babs' responses, leading to her trying to emulate Babs in DC First: Batgirl/Joker by fighting the Joker, trying to emulate Babs' romances via Kon and Tai, and trying to embody Babs' Batgirl by donning her old costume.
This line from Batgirl (2000) #45 is the epitome of Cass asking for Babs' advice. Remember that in Cass' early days, being Batgirl was her first identity. Asking Babs what it was like to be Batgirl is essentially Cass asking for advice on how to be herself. Cass constantly tries to emulate Babs because she sees Babs as holding the key to her own identity.
Batgirl (2000) #5
"Tried to fix me. Teach me." To Cass, 'fixing' and 'teaching' are synonymous. Babs as her teacher also doubles as her 'fixer' - in a way, Cass sees Babs as a healer. It's no coincidence that Cass borrows Bruce's language for Leslie to describe her own relationship to Babs:
Batman Chronicles #18 // Batgirl (2000) #25
Cass is not only calling her "like a mother," she's also likening Babs (maybe subconsciously) to Leslie, a doctor. Leslie fixes up Bruce, just as Babs fixes up Cass. She doesn't just go to Babs for advice, but also for emotional support and healing.
Batgirl (2000) #49
This moment is so pivotal to me. Like other times, Cass approaches Barbara with a question (why?). But she's not looking for an answer this time - she just wants Babs, just wants to feel the presence of someone who loves her. It's here that Babs' role as teacher/mother/healer converges into someone Cass goes to whenever she feels hurt or lost. Here, no words need to be said. Babs is speaking Cass' language.
Which is why Babs calling Cass stupid is so tragic. Cass' love for Babs is tied up in Babs teaching her, guiding her through life. To be called stupid from the person who has all the answers, who you went to for guidance, who fixed you up and healed you - it was devastating.
Batgirl (2000) #54
Babs doesn't realise that Cass has been learning from her; the lessons Babs taught her weren't about literature, but were on how to live, how to love, how to be Batgirl and how to be Cassandra Cain. Babs not only dismisses Cass' efforts to learn English, but also all those other lessons that Cass knows she has learned but Babs doesn't catch. I think it's in this moment that Cass realises how little Babs actually understands her.
Babs essentially implies Cass is 'unteachable', which to Cass means Babs is no longer the person who fixes anything. So she leaves.
Their reconciliation in Batgirl (2000) #67 is also interesting. On Cass' quest to find her mother (who she thinks might be Shiva), she once again links motherhood to teaching ("Shiva wants to... teach?"). But here, Babs attempts to stop teaching Cass. She stops herself from correcting Cass' language.
Now, Babs talks about what Cass has taught her:
"You make me know change is real." I think this line is really important to Cass. For the first time, she's seeing that she has stuff to teach Babs - and Babs is letting her see that, as a way of apology. Babs finally actually addresses Cass' disability, too. They reconcile and, when Babs tells Cass to call, Cass says "The phone's two-ways." Their new relationship is built on a bedrock of mutual respect, where they can both now teach and learn from each other.
Batgirl (2008) #2
Now, Babs understands. They've gone through those ups and downs and come through with something different, something stronger. Cass still asks Babs for favours, and Babs still worries about Cass, but it's grounded in something less unequal and more trusting.
All this to say that a Cass without that core emotional connection to Babs just isn't really Cass. Babs was so integral to her sense of self and her development, and even when they drifted apart, they always came back together again. Babs was her mentor, her teacher, her mother figure; she went to her for guidance, love, and support. And I just wonder how not having Babs impacts current Cass. When she's hurting, or confused, or lost, or lonely - who does she go to now?
For Cassandra Cain to willingly and premeditatedly kill a man, she would first have to be completely broken down as a person beyond anything that has happened in her canon and completely lose her sense of self, because her sense of self is built on preserving life. That's like. Her foundation, not an added on building. You have to break her completely and leave her with nothing to hold onto. Total ego death
keep seeing all these posts calling murph "cool" and "having charisma" and no. nope. that's not how one should be a murph guy. you've gotta be like REAL secretive and ashamed. you have to pretend to be really NORMAL. I'M NORMAL. you cannot be going around genuinely praising that man's work. his own wife cast him as a City Pigeon. she knows what she's talking about.
again, i'm normal and brian murphy is a little rat, thank you. i will not talk about him for another three months. BECAUSE. i am normal.
Real Murph stans mention that they like Murph and then immediately get super defensive trying to justify liking him even though truly no one cares. we gotta be freakin out Murph style a little more.
Iām glad weāre getting a bat family in the DCU. Curious to what members are we getting. Iām highly certain weāre getting a batgirl, and most likely itās going to be Barbara Gordon. But how awesome would it be if it was Cassandra Cain. Please Gunn, let it be Cass, and Barbara be oracle. š š„ŗ
a very merry end of campaign 3 to all naddpoles out there!!! ive had these designs for the main teams done for a long while but never posted them, what better time to do so than now! excited to see what new stuff comes next š¦
hello @rizwalda!! i was ur giftee last year and u made me a really really cute one big bed so i hope i have done it justice with my REVENGE GIFT.... duck team looks + vampire au + serpents !! i hope u enjoy!
thank u so much @naddpodgifting for organising its been so fun !!
plus: bonus vampire hunter kenna ("how long have they just been ..... dramatically posing in the dark ... general bronzebeard i think these menacing vampires might actually be really lame....")
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