Generation Loss: The Social Experiments Writing Project!
It's finally here! After a long year and some change, it's finally ready to be shared! A lot of time, effort, and love has been put into this project, and I'm really proud of what we've been able to create. There are a lot of great writers who participated, with so much love to Leaflex_ on twitter who organized and ran the project. We all hope you enjoy reading!
(all writers credited at the beginning of each scene and at the end of the document)
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Generation Loss: The Social Experiments Collaborative Writing Project Organized by Leaflex Co-organized by Ace A collaborative retelling o
Here's my contribution to the text memes of Coltland Gentry featuring all texts between me and my sibling (and a tiny bit of bloodymary sprinkled in teehee)
Here's my contribution to the text memes of Coltland Gentry featuring all texts between me and my sibling (and a tiny bit of bloodymary sprinkled in teehee)
Generation Loss: The Social Experiments Writing Project!
It's finally here! After a long year and some change, it's finally ready to be shared! A lot of time, effort, and love has been put into this project, and I'm really proud of what we've been able to create. There are a lot of great writers who participated, with so much love to Leaflex_ on twitter who organized and ran the project. We all hope you enjoy reading!
(all writers credited at the beginning of each scene and at the end of the document)
PDF
Generation Loss: The Social Experiments Collaborative Writing Project Organized by Leaflex Co-organized by Ace A collaborative retelling o
I've decided to make a sort of master thread of all of my beeduo fics because I'm terrible at advertising myself and I want them to be in one place for people to see. I'll probably add to this as time goes on because I have at least two things I will hopefully write one day in the future.
ALSO IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THESE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE CHARACTERS AND NEVER THE ACTUAL CREATORS THEMSELVES
Full Fics
Disney fixes everything, including memory problems
Oh this one. This was my first long form fanfic, so it definitely could be better, but I wrote in a style that I hadn't before and it managed to get me out of a writing slump, so there's some pros to it. Its premise is the _Beloved's and SBI going to Disneyworld, and everything they do is based off of my own memories of going as a kid with some extras added in.
Honey and Tulips
My pride and joy. This was originally supposed to be something short and silly but like most things I spent way too much time researching and planning things out. It's a Stardew Valley AU, and you bet your ass I did research into heart events and favorite gifts and all of that. A fun little game is seeing if you can spot each heart event because I did plan them out.
Oh Captain, Let's Make A Deal
PIRATES!!! That's it /j. I love pirates so much and I love a good royal/pirate couple, and I have too much boat knowledge to not put it anywhere. Hence this fic being written. There is a moment where I "composed" (the quotes are because it's really bad, like it was fun in the moment making it but you can definitely tell I've never done it before so I don't know if you can say that I composed something LMAO) a little song that Ranboo plays on the violin. It's not necessary to listen to it to understand the story, but it is there if you want to take a listen.
Back Where I Come From
This was one that was originally written by someone else back in like 2021(?) but was never finished, and I daydreamed up an ending to it because I NEEDED to know how it ended. And then I decided to finally sit down and write it years later. Basically dsmp!Ranboo and osmp!Ranboo swap universes and have to figure out how to get back home.
Oneshots
Close Call
Oh boy. My oldest fic still up. It's very bad, a little cringey, and is one of many fics out there about Techno doing a check of Snowchester and discovering that beeduo are married. It's also my only fic where the relationship can be read as platonic, since I wrote it before they were confirmed to be romantic. Fun times.
We'll Meet Again
It's no secret I love angst, so this was written after Ranboo died. It's literally just the moment where Techno tells Tubbo that Ranboo was killed. Very very short, but at the time I just needed to get my feelings out. We were all going through it.
Geek's Rewritten Lore
Okay. This is technically a series of oneshots that all connect into one story, so I'm listing them all together. They can be read separately for the most part, but do connect into one thing. Basically I got mad at how the lore was done (and honestly still am to this day) and me and a friend started coming up with how we think it should have been handled. I thought about it so much that I ended up writing it all out. There might possibly be one more part added to this someday because I do have an idea for a more solid ending, but who knows.
I want to understand
Oh, hello!
Repercussions
Morning Love
Conversations
You were never supposed to leave
Husbands
Lovin' Ain't Easy
Technically more Michael centered, but beeduo is still a pretty important part of it.
My darling, let me know (if I should let you go)
Angst. Just pure angst. I listened to the song that the title comes from and this fic idea popped into my head. It's more of a modern au with Ranboo dying and Tubbo being sad.
Capturing A Moment
Not technically romantic, and there's not really any hint towards anything romantic, but it's a mermaid au. I actually came up with the story with beeduo but have since changed it to be with ocs. I'm still (hopefully) writing it out as beeduo though, so one day there might be more parts that explore the universe I created. I have a lot of thoughts about how the mermaids work.
It's By Your Side I Make My Home
Oh this one makes me laugh so much. It's one of those stupid ideas that you come up with purely because of how funny it would be. Pretty much Tubbo realizes he's in love with Ranboo but instead of having the thought "I'm in love with Ranboo" he thinks "oh fuck I'm allergic to my husband because whenever I'm around him my stomach hurts". And I don't know about you but I think that's absolutely something that could happen and also hilarious.
Some Things (Never Have To) Change
This is another one where beeduo isn't the focal point (it's really clingyduo), but it's still there as an important part of what's happening, so I'm counting it for the sake of this list. Just clingyduo being in their feelings after Tommy gets revived. He also discovers that Michael exists, which is really the original thought that started this one.
Generation Loss: The Social Experiments Writing Project!
It's finally here! After a long year and some change, it's finally ready to be shared! A lot of time, effort, and love has been put into this project, and I'm really proud of what we've been able to create. There are a lot of great writers who participated, with so much love to Leaflex_ on twitter who organized and ran the project. We all hope you enjoy reading!
(all writers credited at the beginning of each scene and at the end of the document)
PDF
Generation Loss: The Social Experiments Collaborative Writing Project Organized by Leaflex Co-organized by Ace A collaborative retelling o
Something really interesting to see like, as a creator with the whole dan and phil thing is the amount of people going "haha yeah I basically stalked these guys" with absolutely zero remorse or self awareness
Like a lot of people I notice within online communities think that just because something isn't "Breaking a law" means that it's completely okay that they did/are doing that.
Even when the person behind it says "Hey this shit really affected me." A lot of people assume it is the responsibility of the creator to "just be okay with it" because "It's how the internet operates" and that the creator has no right to be uncomfortable with said actions.
It's a balance of parasocialism almost where people who don't see the creator as anything more than an entertainer start to walk beyond the line of not even treating them like a person.
That’s right! I’m giving away access to my first original novel’s e-book version, for free! Three lucky winners will be chosen and announced next Friday, May 10th, so you’ve got over a week to enter!
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So in total, you can get up to 6 entries! (across Twitter, Instagram, and Tumblr)
Winners will receive a key to access What Goes Bump In The Night’s e-book version over on Gumroad, where both PDF and EPUB files are available. Winners will be selected at random on Friday, May 10th and will be announced later in the day. Please have your dms open to receive information regarding the giveaway, if you cannot be contacted within 24 hours, another participant will be chosen.
If this is your first time hearing about WGBITN, you can read more about it here!
This will consist of platonic, ambiguous, romantic, and au fic recs, so read at your own discretion. Obviously, all sfw, and NO CC’S!
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☆ Wedding Bells by Doodlebloo
“Hey, Ranboo?" Tubbo asks, breaking him from his thoughts.
"Hm?"
"What kind of cake do you think we'll want?"
"I- Sorry, what?"
"What kind of cake are you thinking? I like ice cream cake quite a lot, but I don't know if that's-" "Cake... For what?"
Tubbo's expression softens, and he pulls his legs up onto the counter to sit criss cross, still not quite eye level with Ranboo. "For our wedding, big man."
Or: After several months of relative peace on the Dream SMP, Tubbo and Ranboo finally feel secure enough to plan a real, proper wedding. It turns out that wedding planning may be a bit harder than they thought.
*A cute slice of life fic where c!Beeduo plans their wedding and everyone tags along! One of my favorite c!Beeduo fics EVER, I love this story so much and re-read it constantly. Doodlebloo is a c!Beeduo writer I love so she’ll be on here a lot lol
Tubbo’s a smuggler who really only cares about having fuel in his tanks and making it to the next sol cycle, likes to think he’s pretty level headed, but this spoiled Ender prince is really testing his resolve not to shoot him out of the airlock.
*I love this story so much! An incredible space-alien-fighters-I-don’t-even-know AU that’s so well written. Will get you HOOKED and screaming in your pillow bc AGH, and one of my favorite Beeduo reads of all time ofc LOL. There’s a second part of the story in Ranboo’s POV linked here!
Ran is an assassin from another dimension assigned to take out the city Subbin’s new general. But once he gets tangled up in solving a kidnapping plot, misgivings towards an impossible target, a drill sergeant job, and a slowly unfolding mystery, he realizes it’s going to be a lot harder than he thought…
*The author has stated that the Ran and Jackie in this are their original characters, but that’s bc all the c!Beeduo /p truthers were harassing them. Ran and Jackie are from Tales of the SMP and are based on c!Beeduo, so I think of it as a c!Beeduo AU bc I don’t see anything wrong with the story. But I’m not gonna insist it’s c!Beeduo if the author isn’t comfortable with that! I definitely think it’s an INCREDIBLE read and can be viewed aside from this list. Anyways. SUPER INTERESTING MYSTERY AND ROMANCE STORY! I WAS LITERALLY HOOKED ON UPDATES FOR THIS ONE.
“I would nuke someone for you,” Tubbo says plainly with all the confidence in the world. Because he has. He’s done it before and he would do it again in an instant — a thousand times over.
It strikes him with a sudden gripping fury. He needs Ranboo to know. He needs Ranboo to know it like Tubbo knows it, deep and intrinsic. Utter truth.
“That’s… nice?” Ranboo says, hesitant, cautious, nervous.
“Your face is nice,” Tubbo spits, because that’s also the truth.
“Thank you?” Ranboo’s voice pitches up into incredulity.
Ranboo doesn’t get it. And Tubbo desperately tries to convince himself that that’s alright. He will soon. It’s a work in progress.
Modern Setting Reincarnation AU: With the server reset impending, Tubbo made a Deal With The Drista. Now, Tubbo is the only one in the new world who remembers their past life and the events of the Dream SMP, and he's on a mission to reunite with all the people who don't remember him. This time, he will protect them.
*Basically what the description says. A canon-storyline reincarnation AU that’s c!Tubbo centric and isn’t entirely based on c!Beeduo but is still an amazing read!
Ranboo brushes a thumb over his memory book, the knowledge of Tubbo's entry still fresh in his mind from his quick recap on the way over.
Tubbo: Ex-president. Tommy's friend. Lives in Snowchester. Friend?
"You don't have to, I guess," Tubbo shrugs, rubbing his hands together for warmth. "Just a suggestion."
"You're sure you want me to live here?"
Tubbo frowns. "Why wouldn't I?"
"Well, I mean, we're... We're not exactly friends."
Tubbo's hand - the bad one, the one that's mostly scar tissue - twitches, and Ranboo can sense that he's said something wrong. "Are we not?"
Ranboo and Tubbo go from barely friends to doting husbands in a matter of weeks, adopting a child and building a mansion somewhere along the way. Here are some of the moments in between.
*Another banger Doodlebloo fic! A canon based c!Beeduo fic on how they realistically went from being tentative friends to loving husbands. Down-to-Earth and really puts them as a pair into perspective
Tubbo loved love. He did. He truly did.
But love didn’t love him back.
And it was so much harder this year than the last one, to act as if he was fine this week… because, unlike last year, this year he was in love. And unlike last year, this year Tubbo had to deal with the heartache that rejection left behind.
—or, when Tubbo is an oblivious fool in love, Ranboo is a cowardly fool in love, and Tommy tries to play cupid and fucks up instead. Also, add into the mix a shitty handmade mug, some orange juice, and an unethically placed love potion.
*I loved this one so much! A harry potter AU of c!Beeduo. Such a feel good and a lovely read, I smiled so much while reading this
(Oneshot, romantic, AU)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/38507236
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Disney fixes everything, including memory problems by GeekyGlasses
[The arguing starts up again, this time with both Techno and Kristin joining in (although much calmer), and Phil once again sighs. The camera quickly shifts to Ranboo and Tubbo's car, the energy the complete opposite. Michael is still asleep, and it's quiet except for some soft music playing in the background. Tubbo looks over at Ranboo and smiles. Ranboo turns and returns the smile before they both turn back to look at the road. The POV switches back to the screaming van, Phil rubbing his head as his family continues to argue. He shifts in his seat again as if repreparing himself for the drive.]
"10 hours, let's hope I can make it."
*A modern AU of c!Beeduo and c!SBI (with Kristin!). I read this one A WHILE ago so I honestly don’t remember it that much, but I remember I loved it. A good luck charlie type blog for Ranboo, and it was cute seeing all of them together like a big family
Tubbo wasn't lovable. Tubbo was hard edges and barriers and locked away secrets. Tubbo was hands tightened around a sword and refusing to let go. Tubbo was dusty records and tall walls and joking at the wrong time.
Tubbo saw the way people danced around him. How they treated him like glass or treated him like dirt. How they smiled tightly at him or balked at his apathy. Tubbo wasn't lovable.
Or, Ranboo brings up that he loves Tubbo, and Tubbo doesn't understand how anyone could possibly love him.
*ToriBlueBird, a c!Tubbo and c!Beeduo writer I ADORE! This one was so cute, I love how sweetly they were written in this. THEY LOVE EACH OTHER SM!!!
(Oneshot, ambiguous?, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/33154912
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Kiss, Kiss, Kiss by orphan_account
There was something quite liberating, he found, in being able to show how much he loved his husband. Some things were awkward to confess to while they were both awake. Sometimes, there weren’t the right words to admit it. But, as one hand curled itself in Ranboo’s hair and the other rested on the Enderman’s chest, Tubbo felt himself smile between the pecking.
Beeduo fluff where they kiss
*THIS WAS SO CUTE! Just the guys being in love :)
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/38022832
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i think i’m getting butterflies, (but it’s really something telling me to run away) by inkstainzed
“Before he realizes it Tubbo is reaching out, and suddenly their fingers are brushing against eachother and— oh god.
There it is. The vibrations that emit from his chest, sent through his gangly limbs like a shock through his veins. It's inevitable and annoying and Ranboo knows it's because he's so horribly comfortable around Tubbo and it's just so.. embarrassing. Weird. Strange.
He thinks maybe he would die if Tubbo found out about it.”
Or, 3 times Ranboo hides his affection for Tubbo, + the 1 time he doesn’t.
(*clears throat* Badically Ranboo purrs when he’s comfortable/calm as a way to show affection and being relaxed. Having being made fun of for it in the past, he forces himself to hide it from Tubbo in fear and utter anxiety of it happening again. Ranboo makes a mistake, and accidentally upsets Tubbo.)
*Pretty much what the description says! This one was adorable and I love the hc that c!Ranboo purrs. So cute :)
"Ranboo, are we getting a divorce?"
Ranboo immediately stiffens, freezing in place, breathing stuttered.
"...Do you want to get a divorce?" Ranboo tries to keep his tone even, and it's a valiant effort, but Tubbo can hear the tears he's barely holding back.
Ranboo and Tubbo have an argument over two burger restaurants. In a shocking turn of events, this does not lead to a divorce.
*LMAO this was from back in the day when the DSMP was still going on. I tend to wipe the divorce arc from my brain, but when I do think abt it this fic is a good consolation to me. What I think SHOULD’VE happened between c!Beeduo… but ofc 🙄. UGH don’t get me started
(Oneshot, ambiguous, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/33045976
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Some Sunny Day by Anonymous
Ranboo is revived, and he and Tubbo reunite.
*A lovely story of them reuniting :) once again, something I wish had happened. I WISH C!BEEDUO HAD A HAPPY ENDING AAAUHAHHA-
(Oneshot, romantic, fanon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/35586253
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i don’t wanna get over you (i wanna sit with you in bed) by 1wn8ure
"Twenty wives," Tubbo says, staring at Ranboo with something unreadable in his eyes.
"He's gonna make fun of me, y'know," Tubbo continues, leaning forward enough that Ranboo can smell the alcohol on his breath. "I don't even have one wife."
"Yeah?" they whisper back, forcing their voice to maintain its lighthearted tone. "Not sure that's much of a secret."
"Maybe not." Tubbo narrows his eyes, reaching out and placing a hand on Ranboo's chest. "Maybe I don't want a wife."
*THIS ONE WAS SO GOOD!!! I LOVE New L’Manberg c!Beeduo AND I WISH THERE MORE FICS OF THEM!
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/48941656
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All Hallow’s Eve by Doodlebloo
"What are you supposed to be?" Asks Ranboo, and Wilbur pushes his glasses up the bridge of his nose with a chuckle.
"I thought the scariest costume of all would be to just go as myself. You know, Ranboo, often times people are the real monsters. Sometimes looking in the mirror is just as horrific as any-"
"Boo!" Michael squeals from right behind Wilbur, who must jump at least a foot into the air.
"Jesus fucking christ!" Wilbur shrieks, and the group bursts into laughter around him.
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Ranboo and Tubbo take Michael to a Halloween party. Michael is surprisingly good at scaring people.
*I LOVE THIS STORY SO MUCH!!! The way Doodlebloo writes these characters is AMAZING I’m always laughing at what they say. Sort of takes place in the future, if peace had happened for the server. Nothing better than just seeing everyone happy together, and c!Beeduo being spooky husbands :) SUCH A GOOD READ!
(Oneshot, ambiguous, fanon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/34832683
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promises (warmth and light) by Anonymous
Michael stares outside with bouncing excitement, all previous remains of exhaustion wiped clean from his face. He looks back at Ranboo, tugging on his pants. Ranboo chuckles, ruffling his son's tufts of course hair. "We'll play outside when you eat breakfast, bud."
Michael hums, tilting his head and pressing his snout into Ranboo's paw. Tubbo calls out over the course of a couple minutes, "Come get food, you fucks!"
*THIS ONE’S GREAT! Cute story of the fam in their domestic life :)
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/34448149
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It’s All Sacrifice and Violence (The History of Love) by Viola_riviniana
“Are you going to leave?” Tubbo glares, raises an expectant eyebrow.
Ghostboo, still peering in through the doorway, lingers for a moment, before turning to him, “Uh, no I think I’m gonna stay.”
Tubbo scowls, sighs, shoves the chest into the ghost’s lanky arms, “Well if you're staying then you can make yourself useful.”
“Sure!” Ghostboo adjusts his grip on the box, “Doing what?”
Tubbo heads back inside, heaves another (mercifully lighter) chest up, “We’re bringing these to the mansion,” he says, begins the familiar trek only for Ghostboo to easily outpace him, returns on second thought and locks the cabin door.
Ghostboo slides his way over icy paths, spindly legs shaking on the stairs up the cliffside,
“Careful,” Tubbo ascends behind him, passes the struggling ghost and is followed the rest of the way back.
The mansion looms in the afternoon light, shadow stretching out long and dark as they enter, and Tubbo watches Ghostboo twirl in a wide circle, face tilted toward the ceiling.
“It’s pretty in here,” he says.
Tubbo sets his chest down, “Yeah,” takes in the curved staircase, chandelier, the high ceilings, and nods, “It was.”
*I just read this one and I alr forgot it 😭 but I do remember I was HOOKED. Got me wanting Ghostboo and c!Tubbo to get tg and forget abt c!Ranboo 💀 THAT’S HOW GOOD IT WAS LMAO
There's some things no one can stand to forget, so they make the memories live on in film
*Basically c!Tubbo records moments of c!Ranboo to keep memories for him :) I think. GOOD READ THO!
(Oneshot, ambiguous, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/31374740
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Please Don’t Say You Love Me by ToriBlueBird
So please hurry leave me
I can't breathe
Please don't say you love me
"You shouldn't care about me......" Tubbo took a deep breath. "Because if you care about me, you get closer….. and….. everything I get close to.... everything I touch either leaves me or gets destroyed..."
or, Ranboo wants to know why Tubbo wanted him to forget about the execution.
*C!TUBBO MY BELOVED! A lovely story of c!Tubbo finally opening up abt his issues and c!Ranboo being a wonderful husband
(Oneshot, ambiguous?, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/32307778
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A (not so normal) Night In The _Beloved Household by compoundeyed
He walked across the hall and peeked into the living room. The lights were off and it was dark outside, but against the white snow outside the window Tubbo could make out a silhouette. Ranboo sat perched in the couch's armrest like some sort of creature, tail swishing back and forth.
"There you are! I'm done with the dishes, Boo." Tubbo walked towards them. Then they turned around and he froze in his tracks.
Their eyes were glowing purple.
Or Ranboo is enderwalking and they're very protective of their husband. Tubbo isn't complaining.
It's honestly just fluff.
*Read this one A WHILE back. Pretty much just enderwalk c!Ranboo being just as loving as normal c!Ranboo :)
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/33120544
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Return by Selena_Snow
They had never done this before — kissed, that is. But they are husbands, platonic or otherwise, and Tubbo doesn't mind the new development one bit.
*A short little story of c!Beeduo kissing for the first time :) very sweet
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/30436905
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Again by Selena_Snow
Waking up with no memories is hard. But his guide is always there to bring him back.
A sweet (but a little angsty) fic of post-Enderwalking Ranboo and Tubbo.
*Just c!Ranboo being smitten with c!Tubbo even when he has no memories LOL
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/31264361
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United Front by orphan_account
Phil comes looking for answers, Tubbo's the only one who can give them.
If only it didn't require talking about his feelings
*Basically c!Phil finds out c!Wilbur lied to him abt L’Manberg, hence c!Tubbo telling him (and c!Ranboo) abt his execution and Presidency. I love stories that get into c!Tubbo’s feelings, and some bonus c!Ranboo being there for him
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/31400540
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but it’s time to rest, now by nabokov
“Please don’t leave me,” Tubbo whispered, unable to process his own words as he spoke.
“Never,” Ranboo promised, tilting Tubbo’s head up to wipe his tears with the soft sheets. “I’ll never leave.”
*c!Tubbo grieving after c!Tommy’s death, and c!Ranboo being there for him. Them developing their relationship too, and just a nice little story
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/33706363
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prime, i’m in love by nabokov
"my beloved."
a quiet snowchester evening with ranboo and tubbo, who are quickly discovering the difference between love and in love. (hint: they're the latter.)
*c!Beeduo figuring out they’re romantic and not platonic. Very sweet :)
(Oneshot, romantic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/34127989
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domestic bliss by thanotaphobia (blue000jay)
They bring Michael back to Snowchester on Valentine’s Day, a few days before they impulsively get married. It’s a joke at first-- a cute little mob that had gotten attached to Ranboo, who had toddled on baby legs, following them to the portal and clutching to a chicken’s feathery down the whole way. They’d lured him gently, promises of gold and meat, and he’d followed right into the overworld and through the snow and chill to Snowchester. By then, they’d gained his trust enough for the kid to let them pick him up, a tiny little thing that was mostly bone and leathery, half-zombified skin.
Or: Tubbo and Ranboo adopt a kid, get married, get divorced, and have a time of it. Not necessarily in that order.
*A cute story of c!Beeduo becoming dads :)
(Oneshot, platonic, canon storyline)
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/29788827
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That’s all folks! I hope you guys enjoy :) I’ll probably do a part 2, I just wanted to get the ones I had written down out. BYEEEE 🫶
What do you MEAN I can’t just write one of the best ideas I’ve ever come up with for a series and then have it all just appear fully made in front of me????? You mean I have to MAKE IT?!!?!!?!??