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wear a tiny hat at a 45-degree angle

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marry your daughter off to a cash-poor English nobleman

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this is so sad Alexa play The Boy In The Gallery

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photograph your wife wearing everything from the cache of jewelry you just unearthed in Troy

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The fourth largest religion.

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In the name of Adobe, the Reader and the Writer.

systlin

Anyway, if you read marriage certificates from church records, a full 85% of first marriages for young women were around 18-19 years old. The rest skewed higher, into the early twenties, with only a few being below that age and only one in a thousand was younger than 16.

The age of puberty has declined over the centuries as girls get better nutrition, as well, so throughout the middle ages the age at which a girl could expect her first period was around 16, where modern girls often get it much younger.

The idea that women in earlier ages were married and mothers in their early teens is a myth. Marriages of children were usually only between noble families, and made for political reasons, or creepy old bastards who wanted a child-wife and could get away with it because they were rich and powerful. They often would point to the fact that the Roman elite did the same thing as justification. The Romans, of course, would point to the Greeks doing the same thing as justification, the Greeks pointed at the Assyrians, and so on back through the ages.

It was considered disgusting by normal people then and still is.

This myth is still brought out and touted by sick fuckers. Know it for what it is; a falsehood.

mistresstrevelyan

And EVEN among the nobility marriages at such a young age were a much rarer occasion than those apologists would make you believe.

Let’s look an an egregious example, Henry the bloody VIII:

First marriage:

He was 18, Katharine of Aragon was 23.

Second marriage:

He was 40/41, Anne Boleyn, depending on which theory you believe, was anywhere between 24 to 32.

Third marriage:

He was 44, Jane Seymour was 28.

Fourth marriage:

He was 48, Anne of Cleves was 25

Fifth marriage:

He was 48, Catherine Howard, depending on which source you believe, was between 17-22. And yes, people at the time actually were squicked out by this age difference. And rightly so.

Sixth marriage:

He was 51, Catherine Parr was 31.

Even the most notorious LECHER and WIFE MURDERER in history did not marry teenagers in at least 5 if not 6 out of 6 marriages.

And here’s another Tudor tidbit, both Henry VII and VIII knew how traumatic and damaging it is for women marrying/having children too young. Henry VII’s mother was married at 12 and gave birth to Henry VII at 13. It caused so much damage and trauma that she never had another child after him despite being married three times.

So yes CUT THAT SHIT OUT. Teenage girls are NOT adults and anyone preying on them is pure evil.

systlin

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And as for the marriage of Elizabeth Woodville to King Edward IV, she was 27 at the time. He? Was 22.

She had been married before, and did marry young…at the age of sixteen or seventeen, to Sir John Gray, who was about five years her senior.

ghiraheeheeheem

@systlin This is good information, but do you have a source for the information about how most marriages back in the day were not actually usually from a younger age? I tried Googling it but I can only find things talking about modern day issues.

systlin

Well, if you don’t want to spend months crawling through digitized copies of marriage records preserved in church archives from the 12th through 18th centuries from England, Italy, Germany, France, ect (which you can do, and it will show you I’m right) you can go read “ Medieval Households” by David Herlihy, Harvard University Press, 1985. He did the archive crawling for you.

Also Peter Laslett’s book “The World We Have Lost”, where he details over a thousand marriage certificates, and he dug through many more in the writing of the work.

im-defalut

Wait. I am spanish. Do they actually think henry/enrique VII married fucking katherin/catalina de Aragón as a teenager?

You know we see films about this in school and every one is pretty much adult there, both fisically and in the story.

systlin

There’s this…really weird trend in a lot of pseudo-European fantasy/ ‘historical’ books to have girls marry like…really young, to vastly older dudes. Like at about 13, getting married off to like 30 year olds. And then say “Well that’s what it was like back then.”

(Sideyes G.R.R.M)

And…no. No it wasn’t. That’s gross. England was creeped TF out when Henry VIII married Catherine Howard when she was between 17 and 22 and he was 48 as stated above, and rightly so.

gildedagesuggestions

There are lines in Romeo and Juliet explicitly stating that Juliet is too young to get married (at age 13). True, the speaker later goes back on that and tries to force her to marry, but the sentiment is expressed that THIS IS NOT NORMAL.

And yet the number of people I head saying the play is romantic because "that's just how things were" is staggering.

enter into a Boston marriage

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give someone a passive-aggressive acrostic ring

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wait, what?

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One of my associates, dear reader, comes from an old Boston society family. Though her branch has fallen rather from their lofty state, they were at one time quite wealthy and moved in elite circles. Her great-great-grandmother’s family disapproved of Mrs. Gardner’s Bohemian ways and did not invite her to the young lady’s wedding. Rather than being outraged at this social snub, that great patron of the arts reacted with her usual style and daring. She showed up at the reception uninvited, with an extravagant D.E.A.R. (diamond, emerald, amethyst, ruby) ring for the bride.

The ring was sold long ago, more’s the pity for my friend, but the story lives on as one of the greatest ways to thumb one’s nose at snobbery that I’ve ever heard of.

#boston history #isabella stewart gardner

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My Wife’s Lovers, 1891, Carl Kahler

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God I hope I am immortalised by my husband for having 40 cats

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Fun facts:

It cost $5,000 in 1888 to have this painting made, which is more than $120,000 in today’s money.

I say 1888 because it took three years for Kahler to complete, reportedly because he spent most of the time studying and sketching each cat to get a feel for their personality.

It was painted for Kate Johnson, the title was her husband’s idea though, proving him the most patient and good-humored husband in the history of crazy cat ladies.

Speaking of cat ladies, the picture actually contains 42 cats. Or more specifically, Mrs. Johnson’s 42 most favorite cats. She had 350 in total.

It sold at auction via Sotheby’s a few days ago for over $800,000 dollars, vastly more than its $200,000-$300,000 estimate.

The buyer is a private collector in California.

Probably someone who really, really likes cats.

I mean, really likes cats.

#do this #that's the suggestion

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be exquisitely and sexily ill

join the chorus of Floradora and scheme to marry one of the millionaires who flirts with you at the stage door

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use only products that are certified arsenic-free. trust that the paint manufacturers wouldn’t lie about that, because it would dishonor them as businessmen

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give someone a passive-aggressive acrostic ring

#gilded age #late victorian #19th century #this happened to my friend's Boston socialite ancestor #(the ring was given by Isabella Stewart Gardner)#(after she crashed the wedding to which she had been rather pointedly not invited)

scheme to marry a Vanderbilt

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experiment with bangs

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begin to suspect that your late neighbor in this rural Vermont town has risen as a vampire

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after the lady dolls have gone out of fashion, be equally suspicious of the French child dolls that take their place. they might teach children that some people have more than two dresses, and then the sweet angels will surely begin to Covet Worldly Goods

#gilded age #late victorian #19th century #suggestion #antique dolls #french dolls #bebe dolls #basically be deeply suspicious of anything that comes from France

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