Side blog for me to archive stuff about anti-transmasculinity About me: You don’t need to know about me. You can refer to me by my username which is supposed to read as “hell of my choice.” It reflects the choice I had between staying as a woman (one kind of hell) or living as a trans man (another kind.) I use They/Them pronouns on the internet.
genuinely everyone needs to talk more about anti transmasculinity/transandrophobia in their daily life. however best works for whatever context you find yourself in. bring up the murders and violent assaults of trans men. bring up the transmasc suicide rate. bring up historical examples of trans men that don't fall into the "white passing heterosexual man who isn't outed until after his death" stereotype. bring up forced pregnancy as a detransition tactic. bring up transmascs in the US having some of the worst health outcomes of all trans groups. point out how transmasc erasure relies on inherently unrealistic and out of touch notions of how misogyny functions. point out how the ways we use to analyze trans experiences under patriarchy are based in cis frameworks. we need to make anti transmasculinity and transandrophobia a more public conversation. we need to openly and loudly contradict the popular narratives of how transmasculinity is seen and treated under patriarchy. we need to introduce people to transmasculine-centered feminism and transunitist theories of transphobia and provide a real grounded criticism of the erasure of anti-transmasculine violence.
anti-transmasculinity is not an accident, it's not something the patriarchy just stumbles into, the misogyny is not misdirected and it's not just a pre-transition phenomenon. and most importantly, the idea that the patriarchy just can't comprehend transmasculinity and doesn't know what to do with trans men is perhaps the most egregious and widespread example of how erasure works as a cover up for anti-transmasc patriarchal violence by suggesting that it literally does not and cannot happen, and if it does, it cannot be truly systemic or even really on purpose. when trans people and allies do this it is generally not purposeful, but when people continue to promote this narrative, they are genuinely participating in the patriarchy's cover up of the deaths and lost lives of thousands upon thousands of people. we have to challenge the cissexist consciousness people approach transmasculinity with. we all must speak up!!!!!!!!!!!!
from "Promoting and Protecting Human Rights in relation to Sexual Orientation, Gender Identity and Sex Characteristics" by the Asia Pacific Forum of National Human Rights Institutions
For those who haven't heard of Shivy Bhat: he was 19 years old and already being abused by his family while living in California, when after asking his mother if he could cut his hair, she demanded he give her access to his phone and was outdated as trans. Under the pretense that they were taking a trip back to India to see his grandmother, Shivy's family kidnapped him, planning on forcing him to live in India in order to "fix" him by teaching him to be a "cultured Indian girl," and planning on forcing him into an arranged marriage. They had taken away all his identifying documents and his phone. He managed to escape with the help of a local queer feminist group, which then resulted in a legal battle as Shivy's family tried to accuse the group of kidnapping and sex trafficking to get access to him again.
This is not the first case of a trans man in Uttar Pradesh experiencing his family use the legal system to kidnap him after he escapes to a trans shelter. A trans man, 'Aditya', came to a shelter "starved and scared," telling shelter staff his family had confined him for days and he feared for his life. Three days later, in the middle of the night, police forcibly took Aditya from the shelter, without a warrant and without following the procedure of the shelter. In a different incident, a trans man, 'Deep', fled to the Asra shelter because his father, a police officer, was violently abusive, writing in a letter that "I know if I go [back home], I will not be able to come back. They will either kill me or marry me off" and that "I believe [my family] will lock me in the house and there is a threat to my life." Five policemen came to Asra and physically attacked shelter workers, arresting two trans men who worked there and taking them to the police station where they were assaulted further. Similarly, in this article trans man named Vivek Azad talks about his family beating him, having men sent to rape him, not allowing him to cut his hair, and having all his school certificates burned by his brother which prevents him from getting employed. A 17-year-old trans man named Manoj was beaten, tied by his hands and feet, and locked in a room in his family's house after coming out, and forcibly married to a man twice his age, although he was eventually able to escape with his girlfriend and get a divorce from the man he was forced to marry.
More people should adopt the phrase "And I cant speak for trans men..." when talking about trans issues, because a lot of people just can't. That is strikingly apparent.
The US is detransitioning prisoners and just announced that ICE can detain trans people on suspicion of visa fraud. The UK just banned all care for trans kids and is now conducting an "evidence review" into HRT for trans adults and now the biggest DIY HRT web resource just went down.
Trans people need to learn solidarity yesterday, we need to be ready to organise together and set aside anything that we need to in order to get our shit sorted out. Cis people need to take it seriously that the fascists are trying to completely extinguish transess from existence
Crazy thing to say when it was immigrant trans men & masculine queer people perceived female who were the targets of a forced labor program and sexual violence in ICE detention.
At the South Louisiana Ice Processing Center in Basile, detainees say they were forced into hard labor – and sexually assaulted and stalked
Three current and former detainees who spoke to the Guardian said that, between 2023 and 2025, they endured months of abuse from an assistant warden named Manuel Reyes and his associates. In their complaints to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice), the detainees also said that they faced retaliation for reporting the abuse to authorities, alleging that Reyes and other staff beat them and denied them medical treatment.
“I was treated worse than an animal,” said Mario Garcia-Valenzuela, one of the detainees. “We don’t deserve to be treated like this.”
Garcia-Valenzuela, a trans man detained at SLIPC, has alleged that, as part of the unsanctioned work program, Reyes forced him to move heavy cabinets and cinder blocks, and to clean using industrial-strength chemicals without gloves or protective gear. When Garcia-Valenzuela complained of injuries from the work program, he said, Reyes and his associates forcefully stripped him naked and mocked him.
Kenia Campos-Flores, who is trans and non-binary, told the Guardian that they suffered from persistent migraines and chest pain after exposure to cleaning chemicals they were made to use during unofficial, overnight work shifts. Campos-Flores also alleged in a complaint they were persistently sexually harassed by Reyes, who entered their dorm and stole possessions including their boxers.
Another trans detainee, Monica Renteria-Gonzalez, complained that a stripper chemical he was told to use to clean the facility floors seeped through his fabric shoes and burned the skin of his feet. On more than one occasion, while Renteria-Gonzalez was bent over cleaning, he said, Reyes came up from behind and inappropriately touched him. The assistant warden also told Renteria-Gonzalez he was watching the detainee through security cameras, including while he was showering.
A fourth detainee, identified by the pseudonym Jane Doe, is a cisgender, queer woman who said that Reyes forced her to perform oral sex on him on a “near daily basis” between February and May 2024, threatening to kill her if she refused, according to her complaint. [...]
“This was a sadistic late-night work program,” said Sarah Decker, a senior staff attorney with RFK Human Rights. “It was designed to target vulnerable trans men or masculine-presenting LGBTQ people, who [Reyes] coerced into participating.” [...]
Garcia-Valenzuela had fled to the US in 2014 from Mexico, where he was tortured by members of a drug cartel. “I have no choice, that’s why I’m fighting,” he said. “Because I know that as soon as they deport me, I’m going to be handed over to the cartels and I’m going to be tortured and killed – ripped into pieces.”
But in SLIPC he faced a new kind of horror. He alleged that on more than one occasion he was told to move heavy metal filing cabinets back and forth across a room. When he struggled to lift the furniture, Reyes would taunt him, he said, saying: “If you think you are a man, I’m going to treat you like a man.”
And no one in the community seems to be interested in bringing it the fuck up. Even a post which starts off by talking about forced detransitioning under ICE! You'd think this would be the perfect example of this kind of violence in action, but for some reason people don't seem to think these people make good enough victims for the cause. Why is that?
At a time where reproductive rights are also being drained away, where there is very clear targeting of people's ability to control if they are pregnant, is it really so much to ask that we don't start talking about trans men's ability to "financially and socially defend themselves" as if that means jack shit to the brown undocumented trans men being used as slaves and sexually assaulted by federal employees specifically because they are trans men.
"Focus their energies on protecting the most vulnerable" the majority of people I see who talk about reproductive justice forget trans men. The majority of people I see talk about 99% of social issues forget trans men, much less nonbinary people in general. When exactly are we allowed to focus our energies a population that has a 51% lifetime rate of sexual assault across races, and which goes up to 71% for Native trans men? A population that, no matter what study you look at, is paid less than cis women (also see here)?
"Relatively privileged"? Are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any idea how insanely hurtful and straight up misinformative that is to say, in these circumstances?
The callousness this shows towards trans men is just unconscionable, and is highly suggestive of a lack of knowledge about the violence trans men face as well as a lack of openness to questioning ingrained ideas about transmasculine people. I don't mean this as an attack but this is a very clear example of how people internalize transmasculine erasure and repeat it uncritically as fact. We cannot tolerate this rhetoric. I'd like to once again highlight this HRW report, specifically the section “"Butches Get Punched”: Violence Against Masculine-Presenting LBQ+ People” in “This Is Why We Become Activists”:
"Unless they present hyperfeminine, butches don’t have access to the job market. You will not be considered if you don’t wear nice women’s clothes. If you set up catering, you will get told, “I am disgusted; a woman who thinks she’s a man is cooking for me.” So butch lesbians normally have an assistant, or their femme partner if they have one, who is more feminine-looking to run the front so customers don’t know a masculine-presenting person is cooking behind the curtains. Many of us become sex workers [due to lack of job opportunities].… But then when police raid brothels and homes, the masculine lesbians get treated “like men.” This means more forceful handcuffing, kneeling, and stripping their shirts off."
– Rosa, lesbian and sex worker rights defender El Salvador
[...] While gender expression is thus less explicitly criminalized than sexual orientation—the same project reports 66 countries that criminalize same-sex relations between consenting adults —LBQ+ people interviewed for this report repeatedly named gendered discrimination against masculine gender expressions[238] in particular as the catalyst for a lifetime of economic marginalization, discrimination and harassment at work, psychological abuse, and physical and sexual violence.
Their accounts point to the need for deeper research and analysis of how masculine gender expression by LBQ+ people increases their risk of exposure to various human rights violations and abuses. Some reports on violence against LBQ+ people (explored below) have treated gender expression as a signifier of sexual orientation or gender identity, limiting knowledge production on how presentations of masculinity are themselves policed and violated.
This kind of attitude gets trans men is exactly what is described by this report as "limiting knowledge production on how presentations of masculinity are themselves policed and violated." It's just not right and its not remotely accurate. It can and does get trans men detransitioned and killed, and then those victims ignored and forgotten by the very people who claim to be acting purely out of a desire to focus on the most affected. The insistence that trans men don't need specific, focused attention and concern is exactly what creates the circumstances for their vulnerability!
If anyone wants to know more I'd recommend starting here and here.
can we please normalize trans people keeping our hrt journeys private. no, i DON'T want to reveal exactly what kind of hrt i take and and how long i've been on it! that's private medical information! i shouldn't be considered "weird" or "shady" when i refuse to share that info.
i understand many of us may feel solidarity with someone who takes the same hrt as them but i still think it's invasive to ask if that person hasn't said anything about it. there's lots of reasons why someone would choose to not reveal that info. maybe they've had an inconsistent hrt journey. maybe they're not on hrt at all. maybe they don't want to reveal anything that could out their agab. or maybe they just don't like revealing personal medical info! it's not for you to judge them on that.
you're not a bad person if you've asked someone else about their hrt before btw. just please be more mindful going forward that some of us may consider it to be clocking or an invasion of privacy. not all trans people are fully transparent about their transition!
let trans people have privacy regarding their transition. especially if you're trans, too.
my mom just admitted to laughing at ai videos of matt damon hate criming elliot page because there's no POSSIBLE way a trans man could play a character like achilles. and some motherfuckers still try to say trans men don't experience transphobia for being trans men
Ok so we're just doing full mask off misogyny now. "How little fondness I have for cis women as a class". I dont care what you use to dress it up, that's just misogyny, yes even if you're a woman as well.
Also just admitting there's literally no scenario in which she will respect a transmasc, or person who was AFAB in general. That is the fact of the matter, she "has little fondness" for cis women and even less for transmascs.
"There's no hypothetical scenario you can cook up where our social positions are inverted". This is bioessentialism. Its not saying that part out loud but that's what this boils down to. The social positions are that it believes people assigned female at birth are privileged by virtue of being "TME."
And of course, ending this off with the cherry on top of implying any criticism of this rhetoric is just a path towards detransitioning.
And then OOP has the gall to turn around and say "but be yourself! I love you!" Bullshit.
This person is, with very little doubt in my mind, a TERF sock puppet shitstirring with the intention of muddying the conversations our community is having. I noticed them start popping up in the tag around the time the TMVP blog came along and immediately distrusted them, tried to give them the benefit of the doubt only to have a comment gently pushing back on something deleted by them with no explanation, and this kind of straight up transmisogynistic rhetoric seals the deal for me. Don’t interact with this person, just block and make it clear that this attempt to fuck with the trans community on Tumblr isn’t going to work.
I really don't know how to feel times like this, I feel like this is… maybe 3 examples of bad people being trans men, and not 3 examples of trans men being bad people, you know?
We don't do this when a predator happens to be a trans women, do we? I don't remember seeing trans men celebrating Ava Kris Tyson was found out to be mega weird because it proved that trans women were predators or something. Because that was an example of a pred being a trans woman, not an example of a trans woman being a pred.
And the way several questions are raised - comparing makeup to semen in the first example IS weird if not SA (and friends backstage IS a different situation from being an audience member in a show that was probably 18+), and if two different people in the third example feel the person involved is creepy maybe there's something to it, I feel like this situation demands 2 sides.
The QRTs are horrendous as always.
Just thought you'd have any thoughts. I don't want to discount the experiences mentioned here but I also don't want to discount the experiences being described especially when they're being framed in a specific way.
it's mostly fundamental attribution error, honestly. they also don't hear about the times when these things happen to transmascs because transmascs do not feel safe enough to talk about their assault, they just tend to leave communities silently rather than expose their abuser because they know they'll likely not be believed. they don't see all of the transmascs who deliberately avoid these communities in the first place for their own safety. that's why they tend to be shocked at SA stats for us, and not believe them. because they don't hear about nor see them themselves, so they assume they can't be true. a lot of transmascs have had abortions, but I'm sure they never hear about that, either.
all of the stories described, I've heard plenty of the reverse. but you know what? I don't see things like that happening and go, "this is trans women's fault" "this is evidence that trans women are evil predators". and yet, that's precisely what these people do when confronted with similar situations. when it's their friends being assaulted, they give a damn. when it's their friends being accused, it's "I don't believe accusations against a trans woman unless there's solid proof" (something I've actually read on this website).
what's so frustrating is that this shit happens to both of us. but they only seem to see one side of it. and they've become convinced that they're the only ones experiencing this shit. they're not. you can find countless stories of transmascs going through the exact same scenarios. but they don't care. it doesn't bolster the narrative they've constructed for themselves. these are miserable, hate-fueled people. they don't care about victims. they really don't. I've seen how they treat trans women who aren't the good perfect victim for them. I've seen how they treat trans women who are victims of other trans women. they do not care about victims of assault. they're okay with rape if it's being done to the "right" person, in their eyes. when it's a trans woman who they don't like, they will justify endless cruelty. they will justify her death. these people are fake as hell. I've seen how they act and how they operate both online and up close. their belief system is a house is cards that's 90% performative, all to justify being cruel to girls they think don't fit the bill hard enough. they're full of shit. I've heard more than enough horror stories about these radfem and radfem-adjacent groups, especially in "safe haven" cities like Portland and Seattle, and it flat out has made me never want to live in any of those places. they're white centric, they're racist as hell, and they're like a playground for abusers looking for new victims.
these people extrapolate their abuser playground communities for the rest of the country, failing to recognize why their communities are so fraught with abuse. re: "I don't believe accusations against a trans woman" also typically involves younger trans women as the victims not being believed. predators know that. so they go after younger trans women, they go after trans women of color, they go after trans women who are less popular or conventionally attractive or whatever earns them less trust and respect in the group because they know that's all these people care about. they believe victims solely based off of how much they like the perpetrator vs how much they like the victim. it's extremely apparent if you've ever been around these insular trans groups in these types of places. they do not care about trans women's safety and they will actively jeopardize a trans woman's safety if it means they retain proximity to an abuser who they think affords them some sort of social clout or status or who helps pay their rent or who they try to live vicariously through because of this that or the other.
meanwhile, I can think of several trans guys in my local community who have been in abusive situations where the abuser was transfem, and in no world would I go "oh see clearly transfems are evil". because the majority of transfems are not doing that shit, and are actively horrified that anything like that would happen. unfortunately some are ignorant at best, but not abusers themselves. at least they're sympathetic. meanwhile every single time a trans woman has been abused around here, it has been the other trans women in community who have abandoned her because she threatened the social group by outing her abuser. ironically, it has been the transmascs who were already kinda ostracized away from community, who have been the ones to give these girls resources and shelter and actual fucking empathy for what happened to her. but people like OOP don't see that, because OOP will see a girl like that and think that she fucking deserved what she went through. OOP will see a transmasc abused by a member of the community and think that that transmasc deserved it. it's all a facade of social justice that none of them actually believe in. it's sickening. i hate it.
Why is it when a straight t4t couple exist, everyone treats them like Roger and Jessica Rabbit?
People are like “wow the girl is so GORGEOUS she’s a GODDESS, and the guy is just… a skrunkly little guy. A boygirl thingy who dresses like shit. I’m gonna call him ugly as a compliment ^w^”
Like why is the girl always expected to be gorgeous and dolled up all the time? Why can’t she ever have a bad day where she looks like shit, feels like shit and doesn’t get all dressed up? Why does she have to be super feminine either? If she doesn’t put a bunch of effort into her appearance, is she not worthy of respect? Is she suddenly less worthy of respect if she looks average or doesn’t try to meet impossible patriarchal standards applied to women?
Why is the guy assumed to be some infantile little boy who dresses like shit and gets called ugly? What makes him ugly compared to his girlfriend and why is it impossible to give him a normal nonbackhanded compliment? Why is he being treated like an accessory to make his girlfriend look better? Why can’t he be considered attractive and have a sense of style? And if he does have a style, why demean it?
So I haven’t said anything about the transmascvoicesproject blog because to me it’s an incredibly obvious glaring TERF psyop that idiots on all sides are treating completely seriously for some reason but, for the record, that’s absolutely what it is. I simply don’t believe that the person behind that blog is who he says she is and is being honest about his actual intentions behind making the blog. The person in the screenshot below solidifies this for me, because it absolutely screams “I am the person who made that blog/am in on the whole thing” and people need to stop fucking falling for it and just block and ignore the radfems on all fronts having a field day with this obvious disruption attempt.
Do you have a source on whipping girl being written as a fuck you to Judith Butler?
the book itself honestly,
It starts out complaining about how non binary people are taking up too much space, and references things that are in Gender Trouble. If you've read even a little of Gender Trouble, and then Whipping Girl, it's pretty blatant
Julia also has a very particular tone she writes in when she dislikes the subject, it reads as bitter.
She still does this in her newer articles. It's clear in Whipping Girl that she did NOT like how non binary people or genderqueer people are getting more perceived attention than her, a binary trans person. This must be because of "binaryphobia"
I don't think she's ever apologized for this btw
it is truly wild that people will say "if you think trans men are in a materially different class under patriarchy than cis men, you must not think they are real men!" with full earnestness and not realize what it is they are actually saying.
idk my friend, if you need to pretend that trans men don't have materially different experience of patriarchy & are classed differently under patriarchy than cis men, in order to see trans men's manhood as real? i don't think your line of thinking is much different than TERFs who stubbornly refuse to admit that trans women are also have a materially different experience of patriarchy & are classed differently than cis men.
in both cases, rather than acknowledging how the cissexism in feminism has led to the erasure of how fundamental queerphobia and transphobia is to upholding patriarchy, you are clinging to that very cissexism, and privileging the experiences of cis people over trans people and basically blatantly stating that it is the experiences of cis people which define what it means to be a "real" man or woman.
except at least TERFs are being transphobic on purpose; you are trying to act like the real transphobia is acknowledging that. being trans matters when it comes to gender in society???????? this is what happens when you only care about the trans-exclusive part of being anti-TERF and not the radical-feminist part.
This is genuinely one of the most vile posts I've ever seen on here.
The idea that transmascs (or any marginalized person, really) are excited about the idea of getting to be "higher" on the social ladder than someone else. This is just plain bigotry with literally no basis in reality.
This post already has hundreds of uncrtical reblogs. Knowing that, at minimum, hundreds of people think this of transmascs makes me sick to my stomach. When history looks back on your hatred I will not be forgiving any of you.
The transfeminized are more important to support than a whiny cunt complaining that he's not getting the spotlight while trans women are literally constantly fucking killed, tmes should all permanently go away istg
lets see the checklist:
✓ calling trans men whiny for speaking about their issues
✓ use of stereotypically gendered insult
✓ implying trans mens issues are less important or don’t exist
yep that’s a transphobe 👍
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