But us saying heronstairs has potential IS NOT baseless, against logic or textual reference??? There are so many scenes where jem and will behave romantically,,,, it's so clear from their affection. U may say we are just desperate gays but u know the truth, if one of them was woman, people like you would've drooled over this ship
Umm actually no. And Here's why:
▪️First and foremost, Will and Jem consider and call each other brother every couple of lines. Even in their own heads. This -for most people - isn't an invitation for romance.
▪️Both have also never noticed each other sexually or romantically or took note of any man ever
▪️In fact the both only ever think (because we got to see their pov) romantically or sexually about women or consider only women as potential love interests
▪️Like Cassie explained once when asked why some ppl think heronstairs is romantic. It's because the language of the victorian era sounds romantic
▪️Antoher factor you need to take in their sexualities. If a gay man and a (gay) woman had "romantic behavior" - yet somehow considered each other siblings lol idek with you ppl - no one would ship them unless they were "desperate straights" aka none lol. This post is about explaining how it IS textually baseless but i felt i needed to add this.
I would like to give you a few examples of soem the romantic behavior some of you think you see in heronstairs.
"Jem is my greatest sin".
Probably the most common heronstairs quote. Alone, this quote might sound romantic.
In reality this is actually a horrible quote. This quote is actually said from Will to Magnus. The. Cintext is Magnus wonder how Will who distance himself from all bond, familial lile his parents and sister, romantic and from all friemdship woupd be friends and parabatai with Jem. and Will says that it's because Jem was dying. He used Jem's impending death as an excuse ti be friends with him. Since Jem is going to die anyway Will figured his cure won't do much worse. And that's a horrible thing for Will to do. Will's greatest sin is using his best friends illness to endanger him to a curse.
"if there is a life after this one, let me meet you in it, James Carstairs"
I don't even know why I should explain this. And I don't think I should. If asked I will tho
“For five years it had been his absolute truth. Jem and Will. Will and Jem. Will Herondale lives, therefore Jem Carstairs lives also.”
I feel lile this should all be lsited under the use of victorian english. But to make you see it in prespective. Here is a direct quote from Will to Cecily his sister
“Then what am I?” Cecily asked.
Will exhaled, too exasperated to check himself. “You are my weakness.”
Betcha if this was a heronstairs quote you'd be having a field day. I mean this is pretty "romantic behavior" from Will and Cecily too I guess?
Bane Chronicles, Whitechapel fiend. Jem covers Will with a blanket.
Again quote odd that some ppl think covering a sleeping person with a blamket is romantic behavior. I can assure you most siblings have done it, parents have done, freidns have done it. It's like sayinf hugging someone when they are crying is romantic.. It's part of the reason why the whole ship is funny at this point.
I have to say, that even if all of the above wasn't true. Usually if an "ambiguous" quote happens in a book amd right after the characters im their own heads describe each other as siblings that should be enough lol. Harry and Hermione except their sexualities wouldn't work
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No matter how you may feel about cc. She knows what's canon because she created canon.
Here are a few of the times where she explicitly denied heronstairs as well as comfirmed Will and Jem's sexuality being, obviously, heterosexual.
I would also recommend checking this thread for many other times Cassie has debunked heronstairs here:
You might nitpick and say
"But like @sugardaddyjem said Cassie shared heronstairs art. She COMMISIONED IT"
Actually no. All gay heronstairs art was NOT commissioned by Casse. Heronstairs art was published by Cassandra Jean on her blog.
Here is where Cassandra Jean says it was not commissioned.
Hi, how are you? I've been wondering... are you posting more shadowhunter tarot cards? Hello! You had best ask Cassie Clare about that! He
Cassie shared SOME of the heronstairs art with captions like #AU #SLASH #awpoorWill ahah.
The only one Cassandra Clare commisiomed was a friendly garden chat in which Will and Jem talk and Will falls asleep, it was requested by fans when the made November tenth a heronstairs day.
Cassandra Clare also shared many other au art including one of Simon and Raphael. Who as we know Simon is straight and Raphael is asexual.
Cassandra never said they would be poly in the after life or if they were all alive, as in gay polyamory lmaoooo. She said Tessa might give it a TRY and date both at the same time. In that same post cassie actually references an article about. Some women taking many men as lovers in the victorian era lol. How you feel about that is up to you.
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