when people mistake Jason's "I can do this crime, but you must die" ethos as him wanting to kill all criminals + not an evolution of Post-Crisis Jaybin's belief that what mattered was not legality but harm + victimisation. Oughg. he's not Helena Bertinelli, he doesn't think criminals are all scum who deserve to die b/c unlike Helena, he wasn't victimised by criminals. He was victimised by structural inequalities + the institution (+ institutional ethos) of heroism.
"i guess I just wanted to be around someone else who might know how it feels… to be living on borrowed time” "way i see it, you and i are out of time" ough always gets to me! society if countdown capitalised more on the theme of passing time... the challengers of beyond as a team of heroes that each individually lived past the end of their myth... their displacement in the narrative, the liminal area they exist within... they should be plagued with imagery of clocks watches hourglasses
I think jason would be taking like college level philosophy classes to put bruce in increasingly complex and morally/emotionally/existentially eviscerating trolley problem type situations
okay, so let's break down whatever this monstrosity is.
"I was only ever a tourist in her world" could not be a more inaccurate statement. if you've read any comic involving talia and bruce's relationship from the 70s-90s, you'd know they were obsessed with each other. while they had their flaws, it was a genuine, mutual relationship
"...and an unwilling one at that." aaand this is the magnum opus of this panel. we all know the retcon and how the fandom (and apparently authors) treats it. putting that phrase in any context with talia & bruce is like asking for people to take it and run with the "oh, it's canon again, let's all hate her now" or something along those lines. now, having that on its own just brought up would've been bad enough, but putting it directly above an illustration of the two of them clearly being intimate is like pulling the pin to a hand grenade.
"all steeped in her unorthodox cultural traditions" holy anti/arabphobia. the concept of this line even being thought of, let alone being written, making it past editorial, and being published. but then again, it's DC, so i'm not surprised.
"convinced his presence in my life would destroy me, she threw him [damian] in my lap." honestly, this may be one of the worst things ever written. the entire reason she sent him was to keep him safe and so damian could meet his father. could she have had other motives? yeah, maybe, but it wasn't to destroy bruce's life, nowhere near that extreme.
"... and ran away laughing." while i'm sure this is hyperbole, and she didn't literally walk away laughing, by saying that, implies she took pleasure in just dropping damian off with bruce and found it amusing. which, again, could not be any further away from the truth as this was one of the most difficult decsions she ever made + one of her biggest regrets. and due to the wording it implies she could basically care less about damian and just dropped him off without a second look, again could not be an even falser statement
"it became my job to both dismantle that time bomb, and to make it stronger." ah yes because the feral child will learn how to control himself, all thanks to his white father, after living with his arab maternal side for the first ten years of his life, yes, yes, exactly. and the whole "make it stronger" bit is so odd because you want to dismantle, which the definition of dismantling is: "to take apart a machine or structure so that it is in separate pieces." OR "to end an organization or system by gradually in an organized way." (oxford dictionary)
so you want to take what he learned from the league apart and just essentially reteach him? pick and choose what "pieces" from his time in the league he gets to keep and use while being robin? you do you i guess.
now the big thing is, well, he would not fucking say that. bruce genuinely loved talia to the point he had her scent memorized. he respected her AND ra's. no way would he be caught dead talking about her or damian for that matter like this.
moral of the story, this whole thing is orientalist, and rascist. also i take back what i said about how talia fans have been eating lately. we are in fact on the edge of being sent back to purgatory & it was fun while it lasted.
"batcat wedding didnt happen because of tom king" "batcat wedding didnt happen because of DC editorial" actually batcat wedding didnt happen because of ME. i was only 12 in 2018 but i still found the time to sneak into DC's offices and destroyed the happier drafts of Batman #50 because i hate bruce, think he is more entertaining when miserable, and that fans are too comfortable acting like selina should be his good man good hero prize. AND I'D DO IT AGAIN.