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ah yes the three sexualities
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mlm (man loving man)
wlm (Will loving Mike)
Heated Rivalry is a TERRIBLE show.
The star players of THREE hockey teams all being queer? Where two of them fall in love with each other?
Coming out in a homophobic sport on live television?
So UNREALISTIC!
This is probably why Heated Rivalry flopped so HARD and why there's such a backlash:
I'm gay, and not one friend crush of mine worked out. It hurts, right?
SO glad the Duffers represented that onscreen in Stranger Things, and SO glad the Duffers are getting their just due.
Because we want more REALISM in our fantasy stories.
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-teambyler
"will is over mike" actually i think he's under him
"it will pay off"
it was never fucking mentioned again
DR. BRENNER’S ACTOR SAID THIS ABT THE WRITING IN SHOWS ON NETFLIX RECENTLY…AND ITS BEEN CONFIRMED THE DUFFERS USED CHAT GPT TO WRITE S5 OH HES THROWING SHADEEE
So we can all just accept that they are absymally bad writers now, right? What's hard to believe is anyone let them *get away with it* but... wow. This is like... embarrassingly bad.
This is outrageous. Instead of their STARTING point being what impact did they want to have with El's story, it was "how do we toy with the audience"? How do we make it unexpected? How do set it up?
They lost the forest for the trees.
Irresponsible. And shows their flaws as writers because having the abused girl commit suicide to "break the cycle" was one of the worst decisions they could have made.
-teambyler
me waiting for the Duffers to come out and having to explain that there isn’t an extra episode and the ending is actually just it and they just actually forgot about the plot holes because they had the flu and we have to cut them some slack but that fans are welcome to interpret it that way because it might have happened off screen
Now look who’s sitting in his basement all day, playing dnd for the rest of his life and not getting to have any girlfriends huh, michael?
THEY FRIDGED MY GIRL, EL!
So they just ignored how they purposely wrote mileven problematically , and instead of letting them break up , or even having El fake her death to find happiness elsewhere . They instead just let mileven kiss (hand wave their issues with an empty speech) and then immediately kill El off (after they shot Kali ).
What was the point of Hopper’s speech where he says Kali/El shouldn’t have to off themselves, and that they deserve a happy ending (despite life being unfair to them) ? Guess it was pointless. Can’t let El/Kali : the victims of government oppression and abuse ever get a “happy ending”. In fact , both die due to the government . What an uplifting message during these fraught political times. 🙄 This is the opposite of an uplifting message for ab*se survivors: "break the cycle" by offing yourself??????!!!!
And even after 18 months … Will and Mike never get closure or even bring up the painting ? They ignore the cyarno trope all together? Mike even hangs the painting up in his room cause he’s still oblivious and thinks his dead girlfriend commissioned it . Mike is wearing those ugly glasses cause he’s channeling his final form as his oblivious father (who is blind to everything around him) . And it’s implied Will eventually gets a bf who doesn’t speak or have a name . And is on screen for less than 0.5s. And all Will did was glance at him. Yeah. The writers were cowards .
This is why we can’t trust straight dudes to write woman or queer relationships.They chicken-ed out on byler . And said: let’s queerbait and kill the main heroine ( so we don’t have to follow through on breaking up mileven ). Since we’re afraid to follow through on the og plan: let’s just kill her instead (so no one is allowed to ever criticize the main ship ever again) . Also, el says “I love you “ right before she dies . And mike still doesn’t say it back 🙄. I'll never forgot how you compared mileven to ted/karen in multiple seasons . And In s4 you made countless parallels to mileven and El/Brenner . You can't gaslight us , and claim they were some great love .
Also , they never explain how hopper is allowed to be the police chief again. They had a funeral? What was the cover story to allow him back in Hawkins PD?
Don’t even get me started on the other plot holes … so many plot holes.
I will be doing a more rational breakdown of the Duffers problematic writing choices later (when I’ve calmed down). I actually wrote a whole break down of those issues before the finale just in case so it’ll probably be out on Friday. And no it’s not just about byler (that’s only 1 bullet point of like a 25 bullet point list). The duffers didn't subvert tropes like we expected them to. They literally tried to bring back old problematic ones.
Glad , I was a pirate for the last season
i hope for mike wheeler’s sake that he never hears good luck babe. like genuinely i would fear for his safety
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The knight and the zoomer, they retire from battle, and they settle down in a small village. With each passing day, their love grows stronger.
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I just had a total mind-blown moment about Byler Endgame and it’s now a completely different level of canon for me.
We've all been talking about Byler endgame based on the emotional subtext, Will's heartbreaking crush, and Mike's confused arc. All of that is 100% valid and already makes it a semi-canon masterpiece.
But what if the proof isn't just in the emotions, but in the very foundation of the show's DNA?
I'm talking about Dungeons & Dragons.
The Duffer Brothers are geniuses. They've been using D&D as a narrative framework since Day 1, and the roles Mike and Will are set to play in Season 5 are the ultimate proof of their endgame.
The Cleric (Will) and The Paladin (Mike)
Think about their D&D archetypes.
* Will is the Cleric. A cleric is the spiritual and emotional core of a party. Their magic and power are innately tied to a higher purpose or belief, and they're often the ones who can sense spiritual dangers. This is literally Will. He's the one who is connected to the Upside Down and has a link to Vecna. His power isn't about physical strength; it's about his deep, internal connection to the monster. Season 5 is literally giving us a Will-centric episode called "The Sorcerer," leaning into his magical nature.
* Mike is the Paladin. A paladin is the devoted protector of the party. Their strength and leadership are tied to an oath or a devotion to a person. Mike is the "heart" of the party, the one who rallies everyone and has been the leader since the beginning. But his leadership has been failing, because his core devotion has been confused. He hasn't been in sync with his Cleric.
The Narrative Necessity of Their Connection
For a Cleric and a Paladin to be at their full power, they must work in perfect sync.
A Paladin's powers can literally weaken if their devotion is corrupted or questioned. This is why "leader Mike" has been gone. His emotional distance from Will has weakened him, both as a leader and as a person.
The show has already foreshadowed what happens when they are out of sync: everything goes wrong. The group struggles, Vecna gains strength, and they nearly lose.
The only way to win in the final season is for the Cleric and the Paladin to be united. This isn't just for their happiness; it’s for the salvation of Hawkins.
A rejection is narratively impossible. It would shatter the Paladin-Cleric dynamic and leave them powerless against Vecna. The story wouldn't make sense.
Byler isn't just about a crush. It’s the very heartbeat of the entire series. Their bond is the key, and the show's writers are masters at their craft for making the central romance the absolute core of the final battle.
This is the biggest Byler proof there is. You can't make this stuff up. It's a masterpiece.
Atp anyone else is a better writer than the duffers.
Cause they are even contradicting what they are writing atp.
Mike and Will are supposed to be endgame inevitably. How does someone fvck up this badly.
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They gave Chekov too many guns and he accidentally shot Mike Wheeler.
Steve calling Dustin his best friend? Saying he was mad because he missed Dustin? You die, I die. They are simply THE friends of all time.
"Why can't two boys just be friends"
There's literally male friendship representation right here and I'm sure they can see the difference between this and byler but whatever.
The only solace that I have, is that they didn’t JUST assassinate Byler with this volume. Or Mike’s character. They assassinated A TON of characters and plot lines. They fumbled their own show SO BADLY. All this anticipation, and build up, and “genius” writing decisions were flukes. Which is the most embarrassing part. It wasn’t only Byler that was fumbled, it was pretty much everything.