shen jiu is OUR beloved bitch wife

scum villain-centric danmei sideblog yes i'm a filthy shen jiu stan, yes he did child abuse, no i don't think he's morally worse than luo bingge qijiu stan, fond of every sv character but if sj isn't there i'm not that interested ngl icon by starsnores

[littlenines]

shen jiu is canonically like 6 feet tall, but he gives off such petite energy to me. it might be the amount of spite and viciousness... as a tiny person myself i can say this with my whole heart but i have usually only seen such levels of spite and viciousness in tiny people. and sj was practically starved until 16ish so realistically he is not growing up to be taller than like, 5'3 at most.

also picture the scary tactician that tears everyone to shreds with his words being so dainty he makes the tiny teacup he's holding look big. it's a testament to shen jiu's dedication to acting badly that people still manage to hate him despite the fact he's so teensy and beautiful

[littlenines]

so here are my scum villain omegaverse opinions, please bear in mind i'm always right about everything

shen qingqiu (jiu): omega, duh. almost certainly hides it because being hated for what people Think he is (weak, predatory alpha or jealous beta) is almost certainly better to him than being hated for what he really is (a "deficient" omega, with little to no maternal instinct - not counting ning yingying - and who probably suffered irregular and damaging heats due to malnutrition and abuse).

shen qingqiu (yuan): originally, and as himself, an alpha or beta (also duh) who casually enjoyed the privileges that came with it, along with being wealthy and from a loving family. he does not enjoy being an omega when he's in shen qingqiu's body but he Does learn about what they have to suffer, so thanks airplane bro.

yue qingyuan: alpha, duh.

liu qingge: alpha. that level of entitlement and arrogance doesn't come from Not being at the top of the sexual dynamics food chain.

shang qinghua: beta or omega in his first life as xiang fei (leaning towards omega thanks to how sy describes him), alpha in his second (i tend to imagine the PLs minus shen jiu all being alphas or betas, it adds to his isolation). gets bitched by mobei jun, happily so since being an omega is much less work than being an alpha.

mobei jun: alpha.

luo binghe: alpha, but spiritually? an omega (shen yuan's omega) ❤️

mu qingfang: beta n chill

qi qingqi: beta. her peak is for omegas of all genders and female betas only.

[littlenines]

anyone who tries to defend yqy by denigrating shen jiu is weird to me. like that's yqy's wife that he loves

[gaysadist]

If there's sexual abuse subtext no there isn't, if there's allusion to sexual abuse you're ruining it for everyone else by talking about it, if there's a metaphor for sexual abuse you're reading too far into it and it's actually a metaphor for anything more palatable, and if there's on-screen sexual abuse? Well that's exploitative torture porn, of course.

[sunstung]

qijiu in a nutshell

[allpiesforourown]

Would I be too out of line if I said I don't care for the fact that there's a million headcanons about shen jiu being SA'd by Qiu Jianluo even though theres zero evidence of it but no one cares about Su Xiyan being canonically molested by the old Palace Master?

[littlenines]

ngl, you would be pretty out of line bc there is NOT zero evidence of it, it's so strongly implied that it's pretty much subtextual canon and trying to deny that SJ was, if not outright sexually abused (and i'd imply some of the things we know QJL did already cross a line), he was living under threat of it and those were QJL's intentions towards him, strikes me as uncomfortable victim-blaming. to me su xiyan and shen jiu are straight parallels in this - idr if the Old Palace Master actually managed to molest her but he definitely had designs on her, and QJL was the same with SJ.

The headcanon that is weirdly prevalent despite there ACTUALLY being no evidence for it is QJL having any kind of incestuous feelings for his sister. she's described as "the apple of his eye" and that's it. Meanwhile, the way he talks about shen jiu...

[allpiesforourown]

I'm willing to hear you out and change my mind on this. Are there any examples from the text you can show me that prove Qiu Jianluo had sexual intentions for Shen Jiu?

[littlenines]

I'm gonna make a post about it later tonight, right now it's 2am where I am but I'd be happy to make a more concise post when I get off work in a few hours! i will admit, I'm not going to be able to "prove" it as in, find it literally stated in the text "Qiu Jianluo wanted to fuck Shen Jiu" because I think if that were the case it would never need to be a discussion, but I think when you add all of them together it raises the question "what did mxtx mean to imply when she put All Of This in the text, and why would All Of This be in the text if said implications weren't meant to be there?"

[allpiesforourown]

i see where you're coming from but like you said, there's no proof that Qiu Jianluo's abuse of Shen Jiu was sexual. That's simply an interpretation/headcanon, like my first post said. With Su Xiyan however it IS explicitly stated that she was groomed

So to reiterate my first post: Shen Jiu's possible csa is unconfirmed while Su Xiyan's is confirmed. I'm not really sure what your point was

It's totally okay to have headcanons and your own interpretations! But Shen Jiu is not canonically an sa victim

[littlenines]

even this doesn't actually state that su xiyan was 'molested' by the OPM though. all it states is that he wanted to have sex with her, which is exactly my point, that QJL also wanted that with SJ. and it's heavily implied that Shen Jiu is aware of this, which would still make him a victim, because being a child who is owned by an older person who makes creepy advances towards you (including when you are naked in front of them) and makes you feel uncomfortable IS sexual harassment.

my point isn't that he actually 'got to' the point of molesting Shen Jiu, though I think he was ramping up to that before SJ killed him, but that living in fear of it is a form of sexual harassment that SJ lived with. so SXY and SJ are, as far as we know, both equally 'canonically' SA victims. actually this makes them even more similar to me.

you are right that su xiyan's abuse isn't talked about enough though, but tbh su xiyan isn't really talked about enough beyond being shoved into this "butch lady who pegs her husband" category that she doesn't even canonically fit into. I don't think many people care that much about su xiyan, whether they prefer shen jiu or bingqiu or other characters. I also stand by my complete bemusement at the "qiu jianluo being creepy about his sister" thing

[allpiesforourown]

Would I be too out of line if I said I don't care for the fact that there's a million headcanons about shen jiu being SA'd by Qiu Jianluo even though theres zero evidence of it but no one cares about Su Xiyan being canonically molested by the old Palace Master?

[littlenines]

ngl, you would be pretty out of line bc there is NOT zero evidence of it, it's so strongly implied that it's pretty much subtextual canon and trying to deny that SJ was, if not outright sexually abused (and i'd imply some of the things we know QJL did already cross a line), he was living under threat of it and those were QJL's intentions towards him, strikes me as uncomfortable victim-blaming. to me su xiyan and shen jiu are straight parallels in this - idr if the Old Palace Master actually managed to molest her but he definitely had designs on her, and QJL was the same with SJ.

The headcanon that is weirdly prevalent despite there ACTUALLY being no evidence for it is QJL having any kind of incestuous feelings for his sister. she's described as "the apple of his eye" and that's it. Meanwhile, the way he talks about shen jiu...

[allpiesforourown]

I'm willing to hear you out and change my mind on this. Are there any examples from the text you can show me that prove Qiu Jianluo had sexual intentions for Shen Jiu?

[littlenines]

I'm gonna make a post about it later tonight, right now it's 2am where I am but I'd be happy to make a more concise post when I get off work in a few hours! i will admit, I'm not going to be able to "prove" it as in, find it literally stated in the text "Qiu Jianluo wanted to fuck Shen Jiu" because I think if that were the case it would never need to be a discussion, but I think when you add all of them together it raises the question "what did mxtx mean to imply when she put All Of This in the text, and why would All Of This be in the text if said implications weren't meant to be there?"

[allpiesforourown]

Would I be too out of line if I said I don't care for the fact that there's a million headcanons about shen jiu being SA'd by Qiu Jianluo even though theres zero evidence of it but no one cares about Su Xiyan being canonically molested by the old Palace Master?

[littlenines]

ngl, you would be pretty out of line bc there is NOT zero evidence of it, it's so strongly implied that it's pretty much subtextual canon and trying to deny that SJ was, if not outright sexually abused (and i'd imply some of the things we know QJL did already cross a line), he was living under threat of it and those were QJL's intentions towards him, strikes me as uncomfortable victim-blaming. to me su xiyan and shen jiu are straight parallels in this - idr if the Old Palace Master actually managed to molest her but he definitely had designs on her, and QJL was the same with SJ.

The headcanon that is weirdly prevalent despite there ACTUALLY being no evidence for it is QJL having any kind of incestuous feelings for his sister. she's described as "the apple of his eye" and that's it. Meanwhile, the way he talks about shen jiu...

[zenezene0]

better to not pick a fight with sha hualing when her mingyan is around...

[littlenines]

putting it here just in case but i've been thinking a lot about shen jiu age regression but gone sexual. it's not like he regresses to a particular age exactly, it's just like… a form of subspace where he goes back to that outwardly pouty, bratty, clingy "xiao jiu" who wants 100% of his qi-ge's attention and will turn on the waterworks if yqy doesn't give it to him.

this how yqy develops a dacryphilia kink, and a kink for being called gege, and just. everything is a kink to him so long as it's sj.

[littlenines]

just saw someone accuse qijiu shippers of being heteronormative because they like "mean man eater bottom x simp top" like I'm sorry but that's canon qijiu. do you remember the part in svsss where mxtx describes yqy as an indulgent to a fault top? because I do and I think about it every day

[red-garden]

The system is glitching out while you’re transmigrating!!

In its haste to put you in a fresh new child body, it has randomly selected two characters to be your biological parents! Regardless of timeline, the system will make sure these two end up together with a nice fresh baby. However, it cannot interfere with how your new parents will treat you or each other. This means one or both of them could kill each other, leave immediately, or be perfect and loving parents.

Spin the wheel twice to determine your parents! If you get a child character (like white lotus Binghe) or two biologically related parents, spin again.

Picker Wheel - Spin the Wheel to Decide a Random Choice

Picker Wheel is a wheel spinner for a random picker. Various functions & customization. Enter choices or names, spin the wheel to decide a r

So, how does your new life go?

I’m the piña colada of mental/physical health and happiness

I’m a pretty normal guy who lives a fulfilled life

It could be worse….

I could be the next misery porn protagonist

I don’t survive past childhood

It would have been better if I didn’t survive childhood

A secret third thing….

Remaining time: 2 days 14 hours

Explain your answer in notes!!

[littlenines]

One need look no further than luo binghe to discover the truth about the shens. when exposed to shen yuan (secretly a top) you become a huge bottom, a la bingmei. when exposed to shen jiu (secretly a bottom) you become a dom top, a la bingge.

[littlenines]

do you ever think about on the list of things that shen yuan does that would piss shen jiu off royally, marrying and fucking luo binghe would probably come lower down the list than saying "it doesn't matter" when yqy starts to confess to him. and don't get me started on calling nyy a loli. if he heard even one of the things sy thinks about nyy i think he'd find a way to come back swinging

[littlenines]

why do sj stans get this bad reputation when luo binghe woobifiers are the scariest people in fandom. "he did NOTHING wrong except try to be kind to everyone!" he is a rapist.

[littlenines]

sometimes i think about how grateful i am to mxtx for making it clear Shen Jiu canonically has a round and peachy ass. we might not have NEEDED that knowledge, but i for one am glad of it.

[littlenines]

it does make me laff that scum villain fandom is like "shen yuan is the most motherly milf mommy to ever mommy" but in-universe no-one really sees him that way. only person who sees him in a parental way, binghe, is explicitly like "he's like a Father to me"

[littlenines]

i think it's also comparable to how in canon people's views on shen yuan as shen qingqiu tend to be like "he's much nicer and i like him now he's had that personality-changing qi deviation" but the fandom likes to say it's "everyone is in love with this man"