i will never believe people who say that there was a time when Hojo was alright and that's why Lucrecia actually fell for him. there's literally no evidence they were together other than Hojo comforting her once and telling Vincent that he's Sephiroth's father, which, yeah, sure, just trust him after all the gaslighting he did to Cloud post-disc 1. there's no flashback cutscene or anything in Dirge (and i'm nearing the end) where he treats her alright. he fucking called her a rat and only refers to her by her academic title. she's pregnant at this point. they should be "together". even if she married him for whatever reason, it had to be professional, because there were never any signs of chemistry between them and she acts like she's terrified of him, which is hardly unbelievable.
anyway, Sephiroth is Vincent's son. they were fucking like crazy at the picnic and in Shinra Manor, and you just don't want to believe it. even if Hojo had a chance to get laid (he never did), he would choose an IVF over actual sex any day of the week, like any other nazi
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honestly i could go on and on about how bullshit this is, like everything screams that hojo is bullshitting and gaslighting Vincent bc he was just a piece of shit and didn't like the guy (i would guess because of his father? maybe they had shit going on between them at work or something idk. or its just hojo seeing everyone as an insignificant insect to experiment on. or just purely because Vincent had the audacity to question his authority)
hojo has 0 respect for anyone, he only respects himself, why do you think Sephiroth is so weird? purely because of jenova influence? he was treated like a pet experiment and never like a child, hojo has no empathy in him to care about anyone; i will never forget what he wanted to do with Aerith :/ alas, never trust a person who would sacrifice every puppy in the world in the name of science in a blink of an eye :p ofc theres the whole ever crisis thing with him giving seph the necklace and all that but the whole necklace stuff was very ehhh 2/10 idea to move the plot, they wanted Sephiroth to know how Lucrecia looked like so Alyssa could look like her blah blah that whole thing was so mid and not in a fun way ANYWAY BACK ON TO THE TOPIC
and like you said, most of the time she acts like she's terrified (probably after seeing what he's capable of, and even more after he actually shot Vincent with the intent to kill him), she was just an asset to him and that's it.
and in the scene where Vincent says he doesn't blame her, hojo says "she came to her senses and chosen him", which really could mean anything; like choosing his proposal to use her baby for science. also i believe hojo wouldn't touch anyone with a 10 foot pole, so either Vincent's memory is playing tricks on him to make him feel worse, or hojo immediately went to wash his hands after this pffffdksksks
she made bad decisions, so what? everyone does once in a while. and they can be little nothings or have big consequences, she's a well written character
seeing her crying and suicidal on the floor in her lab because they didnt even let her hold her own child, just ugh, what the fuck
ALSO TO OTHER PEOPLE SAYING SHE HAD A CRUSH ON GRIMOIRE AND THATS WHY SHE DIDNT WANT TO BE WITH VINCENT - DID WE PLAY THE SAME GAME? cant a woman be friends with her mentor??????? someone died protecting her, of course she'd be crying, especially if that person was the only one who believed in her and didn't laugh at her thesis, he even helped her prove the whole shinra science department wrong. i am so tired
(now if hojo was a woman hohohohoh yuuuuuup she would be taking 1st place as most hated character in gaming every damn year lol)
tbh as i see it, (hc incoming)
thank you, user lucrecias-anklet, very insightful
no but seriously i do agree with all your arguments as well as the headcanon. i could reply with a few paragraphs too, but i just realized that it would be just repeating your points.
what i really want people to focus on is that Hojo for some reason is very skilled at gaslighting and that's something he has been doing most often throughout the whole compilation, from the huge thing with Cloud in the og, to little things like his interactions with Zack in Crisis Core, yet people keep acting like he's incapable of lying in this case.
and i need to stress that her getting gaslit by the idiot is not naive of her, and believing this is not infantilizing her in any way. it's actually quite a plausible theory considering her feelings for Vincent (undeniable - if you don't believe it, you were outright ignoring the plot), her history with his father, her pregnancy, and Hojo being the snake he is. she was very fragile at this point, and people at such points in life are capable of trusting anything that could in theory make them feel better. making herself turn Vincent away can be a part of her coping as well, for a few reasons.













