Here is a complete list of the messages the players received so far. I plan to keep updating!
Spoilers below!!!
SERIOUSLY SPOILERS A LOT HAPPENED TODAY!!!!
TLDR of updates below: Katie and Shan were given some choices, Sausage and Frogue were given quests/tasks, and CK was just rude to Kitty, 4C and Owain as per usual
Red Kingdom Members
Ser Bek
"You would rule better than those you serve, we both know it"
"Does it not enrage you, the shortcomings of your peers? You should cut them down"
"Will it hurt when you inevitably have to kill her I wonder…"
Lady Katie the Brave
"When you kill him, will you feel remorse or joy?"
"'Katie the Brave'? Don't make me laugh"
"You are no more a knight than your brother"
"Do you truely believe he cares about you? How quaint."
"I'd like to ask you a question, purely hypothetical of course. Which would you pick? Your brother, or your little cat friend? Go ahead, choose: (selections for Nominal and Kitty appeared, Katie did not pick) Silence? I really thought you had the guts to at least answer. Pity."
Apo
"You call Soluna your home… but we both know that isn't true"
Princess Cherri
"She would die for you, and she will"
"If you had stayed, your father would have been saved. do you know that?"
Cam
"They don't take you seriously, but I will"
"Patch their wounds healer, so I may rip them open again"
Sausage
"With my power, and your patron, we could rule over life AND death…"
"Let us see what you are capable of. Collect 16 of my Creaking Hearts out there, covet them. Then return to me."
Frogue
"You wish to claim my kingdom as your own? Perhaps a deal can be struck…"
"A simple transaction rogue. Simply do not break any of my Creaking Soul Hearts in this next little run, and you will awake tomorrow with more power than you hold now. Your choice."
Kitty
"Allow me to free your soul from this human prison of yours"
"I will send you to meet your precious owner"
"There is nothing you can do to change what he did to your body"
"You will never feel true to yourself again, you know that right?"
"How nice of your kingdom to pretend you matter just because you wear a crown."
Blue Kingdom Members
Lady Graecie
"You wish for harmony? as do I. I will unite the kingdoms in death"
"Your exuberant personality won't fool me, girl. I know the worries you hold"
“You care so much for him, and yet he scorned you first”
"When I am free of this prison, I will choke the life out of everything you call beautiful"
Sir Owain
"I will add to your many scars"
"You'll find I'm not as easy to slay as Arthur"
"If I were you I wouldn't stop flogging til there wasn't skin left"
"Were you wiser, perhaps you would have seen Mordred coming"
Nom
"Perhaps if you had been stronger you would have saved them"
"I've seen your death, she does not spare you 'Knight'"
"If you won't pick it up you coward, maybe I will"
"All of this is his fault, of course. if he went away everything would be better."
Scott
"I will send you to meet your father"
"I will choke the light from your very soul"
"Your kingdom won't even try to save you"
Lady Eloise
"You should hear what your past subjects have said of you, no respect it seems…"
Shan
"Perhaps if you had been of a stronger will, you could have saved them from the waters"
"Interesting how quickly you were cast aside when your ruling ran its course, no?"
"You're so far from home. Would you like to go back? (selections saying 'yes' and 'no', Shan chose 'no') Why do you lie to yourself like this? No matter. You will admit it in time."
Mae
"They don't value you Rogue, they value the crown"
"You will die in the dark, where you belong"
4C
"I will devour what's left of your soul"
"You will let them down, just as you did him"
"No God can save you here, Farkle follower. It's just you and me."
"Are you used to people dying for you, Rogue? Or do you need to see it again." - x2 (first repeat message)
“You’re tired, Rogue. We can see it in your eyes”
Personally, I think the most interesting, complex, and impactful ending of Bannerfall SMP is one where NO ONE dies.
Because it's so easy to see how the kingdoms could tear each other apart. Or how maybe some people would die and then the survivors are able to have a silver lining of peace.
But you wanna know what's hard to imagine? How they could have peace if no one dies. How do people, who have only ever known conflict, live without it? How does someone like Owain exist? How does someone like Sausage exist? How do Nom, or Katie handle it?
What needs to happen for these people to be okay with saying "Let bygones be bygones", laying down their weapons, and walking away. Giving up on history and grudges and justice. Not getting the last laugh.
What do they do with no one to fight? Nothing to subdue. To dig their fingernails into their palms and say, "I forgive you"? Or just to live and let live.
compiling all of the creaking king dungeon messages :] i will add to this post as we hear more
Scott: I will send you to meet your father. // I will choke the very light from your soul.
Katie: When you kill him, will you feel remorse, or joy? // Katie the brave? Don't make me laugh.
Owain: I will add to your many scars. // You will find I am not so easy to slay as Arthur.
Cherri: She would die for you, and she will. // If you had stayed, your father would have been saved, do you know that?
Kitty: Allow me to free your soul from this human prison of yours. // I will send you to meet your precious owner. // There is nothing you can do to change what he did to your body.
Frogue: You wish to claim my kingdom as your own?.. Perhaps a deal can be struck...
4C: I will devour what remains of your soul. // You will let them down, just as you did him.
Bek: You would rule better than those you serve, we both know it.
Cam: They don't take you seriously, but I will.
Graecie: You wish for harmony? As do I. I will unite the kingdoms in death. // Your exuberant personality won't fool me, girl, I know the worries you hold.
Nom: Perhaps if you had been stronger you might have saved them.
Mae: They don't value you Rogue. They value the crown.
Sausage: With my power, and your patron... We could rule over life AND death.
I love a good "death of innocence" motif in media. A starry-eyed girl who just got knighted, who's absolutely aching to prove herself, to be worthy of this honour she was finally awarded.
bf!Katie as a character who has dreamed for her whole life to be a knight. Who's done everything in her power to reach this dream, left so much behind.
Who heard her brother's question where he put her in the scenario he broke his oath in and decided to make a Brave and Valiant oath.
To serve her monarch to the best of her abilities. To slay her enemies. To protect the innocent.
Two stipulations of her oath that contradict, following either one doesn't break the oath itself , but it sure feels bad. One week after the oath was made too...
bf!Katie who doesn't like to lie, who's dreadful at it, forced to lie to her friend that she knows she's hurt with her actions, who will likely hate her for this.
bf!Katie who's looked up to her brother for her whole life, a perfect knight, a great protector, the strongest person she knows. When faced with a dilemma between his duty and his morals, he chose the right thing.
bf!Katie who doesn't care about his broken oath at all, who still looks up to him so much, who feels like she can definitely never be as good as him now, who feels so much remorse.
bf!Katie who's hands were stained for the first time, with the dye the Prince was holding and it's awfully reminiscent of blood...
Two children died today in Bannerfall Smp, and narratively it's soooo peak
Nom's lore today, from his tense back-and-forth with Katie to his argument with Graecie to his conversation with 4c to his moments alone, is genuinely some of the best character work and storytelling I've ever seen on an SMP, I would highly HIGHLY recommend watching.
I think a lot of writers might benefit from giving themselves permission to get weird with format.
Use second person, drop classic rising action and climax format, write backwards, just sit in a moment, tell all you want and refuse to show, make an entire book that’s just one run on sentence, reject tropes, use all tropes, cliche yourself to death, produce something that’s completely gibberish. Break all the rules of marketability. Become ungovernable.
It’s the middle of the night and I should be sleeping but listen. Listen. Just get weird with it. Open your soul up a little bit. Like actually don’t worry about it being palatable. I’m serious. Get weirder. Get weirder right now. I’m demanding that you get weirder right now. It’s not your responsibility to make your reader feel good. It’s your job to make art, goddamnit. Make art. Make weird art. Open up your third eye and eat an entire cheesecake.
watching nom's vod from yesterday. kind of poetic how in that conversation with katie over farkle he's completely beating her ass the entire time, but then when the topic shifts to his oath and he starts lying through his teeth, his luck falters and katie wins three times in a row. idk idk.
I need. To go insane over katie, and apo, and nom I suppose. Cause what do you mean katies fighting style is more like Apos than Noms and how yeah, yeah looking up to someone that has a different style than you would make it a little hard to learn and youd feel like youre being left in their footsteps even though they try so hard to train you too. And that Apo and Nom have fought before and have recognized these differences as well with Nom saying Apo plays too defensive even, yeah give us some great stuff to analyze that is really just how people play videogames differently but it fits so well. And we’ve gotten training sequences by both nom and apo now and I Really need to go back and rewatch noms
Yes prev tags there are parallels to be drawn between nom and apo! Just yesterday I realized oh theyre both terrified of the person they care about most becoming a knight because it puts them in danger
Yes!! And also I've figured out that the thing I couldn't put my finger on is that they're both weird about being a knight. As in... they're in deep in a 'I'm not quite sure who I am outside of this'/'Am I even someone outside of this' kinda way (and somewhat by extension in a raised to be a soldier/human weapon kinda way)
Basically, I really really want them to have a conversation (they might've even done lol I've fallen a bit behind on their povs) about knighthood because it would be so interesting and I honestly feel like they'd get each other (even if they'd definitely clash on some things)
Hiiii here for your thoughts on Legvid (/p and/or /r) as requested!! :D
HOORAY I get to talk about MY LIARS <3 thank you so much!
platonically? I'm obsessed with them. I think iwfy and windmills makes that very obvious haha. their canon dynamic is so unbelievably good and ridiculously underrated... I see every scene they have together and can't get enough of it. the inherent comedy of grown ass man doctor legundo being ragebaited by avid and falling for it. the way they just belittle and annoy each other and it shifting into an attempt to reconcile and understand... "maybe I can help you help them?" the mutual trust shattering in the same session it's tentatively solidified... "I'm done with him" and "I think death's too good for him." they were so close... legs wants to save people and avid wants to be saved... legs and avid you will always be famous. they could have been so friends...
onto the "romantic" aspect...
so let's get this out of the way. I don't think doc would ever be attracted to avid romantically or sexually. dr. self flagellator age gap guilt aside I just don't think he'd be into him lol. avid's not his type...
with that being said. avid wants that doctor so bad it makes him look stupid
it is thoroughly established that avid is attracted to authority because he wants people that make him feel safe. we see this with him asking out elle ("[guitar strum] she's a lesbian my bad") and (sigh) with scott. arguably with pearl and cleo early on. in a funnier world we would've seen it with abolish... so with that in mind I think he'd be down bad for doc. legs is a pillar of authority in oakhurst, a voice of reason, and once he starts extending that protection to avid I think avid would be very interested in him
essentially my ideal romantic legvid is one sided. I will say ☝️ avid doesn't seem to have a problem with his attraction being unrequited. I think he'd be totally content to just admire doc and never expect him to reciprocate, as long as doc keeps him safe and is on his side...
im so gripped by nom's bannerfall pov right now because it feels like watching a train chug towards a cliff. is someone gonna pull the brakes on time, or is he gonna pick up that weapon again and go off the rails? What is he gonna crush on his way down? Is he gonna switch tracks and never even get that close to the edge? I gotta watch, i gotta see what happens, and though i know what it entails i cant deny a crash would be more entertaining to witness
fuck it this is my blog. iwfy trio physical contact headcanons time. some of these I touch on in the fic but I'm too stoked about these friends to not talk about them. apo avid and legs could be so friends (<- way of saying they’re entirely platonic in this context. get weirder about platonic dynamics now)
apo
apo is fine with physical contact, but they're slow to initiate it (outside forced clinginess influence ofc). they don't know how to feel about being softer in a hell like oakhurst. the events of the fic coax out their more cozy side
as the middle sized member, apo is equal parts held and holding the other two. she's never usually in the middle when they're all together, though
for both of them, apo likes holding onto hands or linking arms. she wants ease of movement while still knowing the other is there
with avid, apo tends to shield him with her body. she can carry him piggy back style. contact also comes in the form of checking on him (like fixing his collar or cupping his face). she puts her chin on his head sometimes
with legs, apo leans on him and into him a lot. side and full hugs are common. she tends to grip his arm, too. she eases into him
batpo (bat apo) prefers perching on shoulders or the crook of an arm. they like flying free, but they don't mind being held like a hawk by their buddies
avid
avid is very physically affectionate to me. he kind of delivers it like he's touching a hot stove though
avid is the smallest of the trio so he's manhandled quite often. he likes it a lot but he's still squirrely about it
with the others, avid is clingy. grabbing wrists, holding onto sleeves, etc. his affection is more quick (like pats or pecks) and he crawls over them
with apo, avid tends to hold both of her hands. they hug the most I think. he kisses her cheek once and she doesn't really react
if avid could jump into legs's arms scooby doo chase style he would, or otherwise cling onto him like a monkey (ha). he kisses legs's jaw once and legs does not know how to respond to that
batvid (bat avid) likes climbing on the others' heads. he is very wiggly and often screeches as if he's going to fall
legs
he's far better at giving contact than receiving it. he tends to freeze up because he doesn't really expect people to show him affection
legs is the biggest of the trio and therefore the de facto pillow. he doesn't mind
for the others, his number one way to stay in contact is a hand on the shoulder. it's subtle and protective. he tends to throw an arm over either of them when threatened
with avid, legs holds onto him to keep him from getting into trouble. by the elbow, shoulder, whatever. if he were to pick up avid, it’d be holding him like a football (kidding) scooping him up. he ruffles avid’s hair
with apo, legs shields her with himself. he puts an arm around her shoulders especially. she's moreso the one to lean into him but he gives her that space to lean on
bat legs (doesn't get a fun portmanteau) honestly prefers perching on the back of the hand, but he never voices a preference. seeing as this bullet point sees him as a vampire he's guaranteed to always be miserable even when he's with his friends, but they're very affectionate with bat legs. easier to comfort him (and keep him from going off the deep end) when he's a little bat. I also have this beautiful vision of bat legs trying to pull avid by his collar
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