๐ฉท I don't care if you're anti fiction or profiction, if you use the term 'CP' or 'Cheese Pizza', You've lost my respect as a person and I am immediately blocking you.
First off, CP is an outdated and incorrect term. The correct term is CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material) or CSEM (Child Sexual Exploitation Material). Also, these terms are only for real children, not fictional ones.
On a similar note, Cheese Pizza is a dog whistle for predators that you guys seem to forget is a dog whistle. STOP USING DOG WHISTLES.
Second off, as a victim of CSAM, it's extremely disrespectful to compare the recordings 4-7 year old me being trafficked and raped by several times to a drawing a FICTIONAL child. How is a fictional child who isn't being harmed on the same level as me and other victims.
Do I have to describe what that experience was like in detail for you dumbasses to understand the difference between a real victim and pixels on the screen. I hate you all.
The difference between Vivziepop antis and people in the Hellaverse fandom (Based on what I've personally seen)
Fans;
- Show their appreciation for Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss in different ways, be it fanart, fanfiction, Tiktok videos, ect.
- Acknowledge the flaws characters have, but will also carefully analyze the characters in a way that explains their actions, but doesn't justify the things they say or do, detailing how complex those characters actually are.
- If fans have different opinions, as long as they're respectful, they agree to disagree
- Know how to actually enjoy a show despite it's flaws, while also knowing how to separate the art from the artist, regardless of whatever Vivziepop may or may not have done.
Antis;
- Usually give the most narrow, shallow minded views on characters and episodes, only caring about if a character does anything remotely sexual and then getting mad when it happens, because God forbid a show made for adults has sexual situations in it.
- Get mad when fans of the show don't share their worldview or call them out on said shallow views when they try to explain that a character isn't as bad as they claim them to be
- Criticism towards characters often includes victim blaming and defending the abuser, specifically Stolas and Stella, or the Karen client and her husband from the Sinsmas episode, and then they still get mad at people who defend Stolas or the Karen's husband
- Clearly only watch the Hellaverse just to hate on it more when their time would be better off spent consuming content they actually enjoy and then making content on that instead
- Don't actually care about helping Vivziepop improve her work, only post destructive criticism in the hopes of tearing her and all her crew down
- Obsessively keep track of every move Vivziepop makes, keep a record of all her past actions, and then document on it obsessively despite claiming to hate or dislike her..... should be enough to tell you how insane a lot of the antis are that they're this obsessed over hating on someone just because they don't like her work.
OML THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT. I personally deal with antis all the time and it's very frustrating. You're allowed to dislike a show but don't rant and rave about it as if it shot your dog PLEASE.
Exactly! It's one thing to simply dislike something and post fair constructive criticism about it, it's a whole other thing entirely when they make it clear how deep their hatred is yet also can't stop discussing it despite saying how much they hate either show and the characters. You're honestly not wrong about how they act as if the Hellaverse ruined their lives somehow..... Makes me think of that one YouTuber who's videos I avoid because every time they talk about the Hellaverse at all, they sound pissed off about the characters they're talking about, and I wonder why the fuck they watch it to begin with.
Azfk recently did a video on it that covers it beautifully. He's basically saying "if you base your whole YouTube career off of hating this, what are you going to do when the show is over? You think your fans will give you leeway and be kind when you show them something you're passionate about?"
Further proof that dedicating your life to hate leads to nothing good, that if you spend a portion of your life being led on by hatred, especially if it's what you dedicate your content to, eventually you'll just be left with nothing but a feeling of emptiness.
I feel like a lot of criticism directed towards Vivziepopโs character designs is caused by people refusing to engage with the character interpretation in the show. Why isnโt Lucifer an intimidating demon lord? Because this show interprets him as a misunderstood dreamer forced into the role of king of hell. Iโm not saying everyone has to like that interpretation but for for all that is holy, that needs to be taken into account when discussing designs
Exactly! Honestly, what I think a lot of people who make these criticisms fail to understand or even think about is the fact that at the end of the day, regardless how accurate the Hellaverse is to actual theology, both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are an artistic interpretation of Hell based off of Vivziepop's personal vision of it and all the demons in these shows that actually were mentioned in the Bible or any other religious texts. It's her vision, her interpretation, and just because it doesn't match up to others' visions of it, doesn't mean that's a bad thing. Sure, maybe it's not accurate to how said religious texts would describe these characters, but again, I don't see anything really wrong with that. Art is supposed to be about expressing our vision of the things we make art about, and Vivziepop shouldn't have to conform to others' ideas of how they think Lucifer, Asmodeus, Beelzebub, Stolas, Adam, Peter, Lillth or other spiritual figures mentioned in religious texts would be in personality and design. It's her vision, and if we are going to post constructive criticism about her character designs, we should keep her vision in mind and respect that. Honestly, overall, some of these critics need to learn how to make unbiased criticisms that aren't just shoving their ideas down Vivziepop's throat and basically just saying "You didn't make these characters the way I would have made them, so you need to fix them"
So to be clear I have VERY mixed opinions on Vivziepop, but I want to get this out here because she seems utterly doomed to burn at the stake no matter what she does.
If she doesnโt put queer characters in her shows, itโs homophobia/lesbophobia/acephobia or whatever. But if she DOES put queer characters, then theyโre not the right kind of queer and itโs homophobia/lesbophobia/acephobia/whatever ( Alastor, Vaggie, Angel Dust, and the rest)
If she gives her characters ethnic features, itโs a parody and a stereotype and rascist, even if said characters might not be that ethnicity. (Mimzy) But if she doesnโt give them enough, then itโs whitewashing and also rascist (Alastor, Vaggie, Emily)
Iโm she doesnโt make chubby characters, then itโs fatphobic (the majority of the cast) But if she does make chubby characters, itโs mocking and cruel and also fatphobic. (Mimzy, Mammon, Abel)
If she gives her characters messy, complicated relationships with problems that the characters need to work through, itโs toxic and abusive and she canโt write romance (Stolitz, Huskerdust) If she gives her characters calm, healthy relationships with minimal problems that are solved quickly, itโs boring and bland and she canโt write romance (Chaggie, Fizzarozzie)
And god forbid that healthy loving ship is a gay one, specifically an mlm one, because then itโs disgusting fetishization (Fizzarozzie, fan content Huskerdust) But if that gay ship DOESNT openly show as much affection, it goes back to being chemistry-less and tasteless (Chaggie, also some fanon ships) Itโs all good if itโs a straight ship, though. Then they can be as affectionate/rushed/bland as Viv wants. (M&M, Cherrisnake)
If a man makes romance related mistakes that he learns from, heโs a horrible abuser and deserves to die (Stolas, Angel) But if a woman is blatantly abusive, no sheโs not and you just hate woman (Stella)
At the end of the day, these are Vivโs characters. And they can be as thin/fat/gay/straight/messy /normal as she wants. And I have no problem with people hating her, posting their criticisms online, even. But at least try to keep your stories straight
I've stopped listening to any ANY Hellaverse/Viv """criticism""" because 99 times out of 100, the argument comes down to "queer women bad and must behave, straight man good and can do whatever with a slap on the wrist."
and the other 1 time it's "this didn't satisfy me and I can't understand it!!1!!11!! that's obviously your fault and not mine for watching this with my eyes and ears plugged. everyone knows my interpretation is CORRECT <3 and shows reflect your real life morality at all times :)))"
I also don't want to be called a coon or be sexually harassed
not necessarily a request so do not feel forced, but i think a sweet sequel to the step-cest 007n7 x reader would be cool ๐ kinda like an aftermath a few days later, perhaps 007n7 and the reader having very emotional and desperate sex? or maybe something else if you see this and have any other ideas.
Step dad!007n7 x reader smut Part 2
part 1 here
Warnings: AFAB!Reader, step cest, taboo subjects, implied age gap (reader is above 18), daddy kink, scent kink, dirty talk, unprotected sex, multiple orgasms, parts written while I was high, not beta read, DON'T LIKE DON'T READ
Guilt wracked 007n7's mind as he sat in the bathroom. Not too long after having a "colourful" conversation with Noli before he left, 007n7 was left to ensure your comfort. You poor body sore all over and used.
Your step dad making sure to fill the bathtub with warm water to lay you in. He barely says anything, deep in his own thoughts. 007n7's eyes trained on you as the warm steamy water soothed the muscles in your body. It was the least he could do after all of... that.
The image of your body laying on the bed, in those moments where you were passed out, seared into his memories. 007n7 wanted to say he at least tried to avoid looking at his cum on the skin of your back, almost wishing it was oozing out of your pussy instead. The brief image of that in his head almost making him debate with himself about continuing to fuck you as you laid in bed in your hazed state.
Instead, he got a bath ready and sat you in there. Giving you some time to just relax before carefully wiping down your skin with a soft washcloth, letting out small apologies if you wince for any reason. The lack of talking in any way, and no acknowledgement to the events that happened not too long ago making the tension in the air heavy.
It was clear to you that your dad had a million thoughts going through this head as he washed your down. And even as the words tried to leave your mouth to at least say something would always die out before reaching your mouth.
Your brain over how to exactly bring this up to him, drafting up different ways to try to start that conversation in your head. Even after 007n7 left to warm a towel for you in the dryer, leaving you alone to rinse yourself off.
Yet nothing was said as the warm towel was handed to you through the crack of the door, 007n7 excusing himself soon after you take it from his hand. It seems like neither the two of you were sure how to tackle the thick tension. You just hoped it wouldn't last long...
Then a week passed.
A week of walking on egg shells around each other, trying to act as if things never changed and the fact that 007n7 let his old friend get him to fuck his daughter like the disgusting perv he is. Conversations were brief, awkward as if either party wanted to address the elephant in the room but couldn't bring themselves to do so.
And while 007n7 may be willing to do nothing and let this whole thing pass, you didn't.
007n7 would be coming home somewhat late tonight, and that left you with time to prep yourself up to finally get something done. If you were going to finally confront 007n7 about this whole ordeal and get your feelings out in the air for him to see. Going all out with no chance for either of you to back out like cowards.
Waiting with bated breath, you looked over at the digital clock that sat on the bed side table as you waited impatiently on 007n7's bed. Leg bouncing in anticipation as you looked over yourself. Barely anything covering yourself aside from the panties you wore and the unbuttoned white shirt you hazardously took from 007n7's closet. Something he wore for his office job, or needing to look professional for whatever reason.
Regardless, it was now worn by you, and it carried his scent. You brought up the collar of the shirt, taking a deep inhale of the fabric. A sigh escapes from you, body silently quivering in delight. You knew the smell of your father, but this was a first being able to get too close to it before.
Well, technically false since you do laundry when needed, but the thought didn't occur to you then from the sole focus of getting a chore done.
Another deep inhale, and it was already easing your nerves. This was mostly done on a whim from remembering what Noli told you and what he said to 007n7 during his last visit. While you weren't able to participate in their little "chat", or even think much while being fucked silly, parts of their exchange didn't miss your ears.
"What kind of father are you for wanting to fuck your daughter's pussy?"
"Hear that? Your daddy wants to fucking breed you~"
Back landing on the soft blanket, eyes squeezed shut with your thighs rub against each other in a desperation you start to breathe heavier. The collar of the shirt still giving off that addicting faint musk smell of your step father, your hands move over your breasts. Your fingers grab into the soft mounds and giving a couple of squeezes.
You hips instinctually bucks upwards, desperate for that feeling of being full again. One of your hands lowers with rush, fumbling to get under the hem of your panties. Your fingers sending a small shock of surprise from feeling just how wet you are.
"God baby, you look too fucking good for this," Those words said in a heated moment of pure lust, 007n7's voice deep and raspy. "you have no idea what that sexy body does to your old man,"
Your fingers were plugging into you before you even realized it. The other hand that still rested on your breast starts to move more faster and gripped harder to match the pace of the fingers. If you didn't hear your heart beat and heaving breathing, then the squelching sound of your wet cunt would instead.
And you imagined 007n7 was the one doing it instead. Letting go of any self control and having at you. Ever since learning of the fuck your father wants to fuck you, its been a hell of a cognitohazard on you. Unable to get the thought of him fucking his hand thinking it was pounding into you was driving you mad. Not being able to be around him for too long without excusing yourself to get yourself off.
You were so deep in this imagination of yours, trying to form a perfect picture in your head. The slight sheen of sweat, his expression, the sounds from him, him crying out-
"sweetie?"
That nickname cutting through the sounds from you, stopping your movements dead in your tracks upon recognition of that voice. You felt your soul sink as you shot your head and body upwards. His silhouette stood at the room door frame, slightly darkened by the light filling the hallway and hitting his back.
"Wait wait I can expl-!" The words fly out of your mouth before you could really think, and before you could react, you were sent rushing backwards onto the bed. Your body pressed into the cushion of the mattress, looking up to look at 007n7. His mouth crashing on yours almost immediately after.
You both groan into each other as you help his hands go to your thighs to spread them open. They rub circles on the skin just right under your pulsing heat. 007n7 is growling forcing his tongue into your mouth and squeezing the ticklish parts of your pelvis, almost as if he was purposely teasing.
The feeling of his painful hard on through his trousers causes a jolt of excitement, rubbing up against it. 007n7 growling as his tongue dominated the inside of your mouth. He quickly breaks the kiss off, and your now gasping for air.
"Are you trying to kill me?" 007n7 spoke in a low tone that poorly hid his overwhelming desire. "For you to lay here, fingering that little pussy of yours, all perfect looking for me to walk in on? What made you think you can tease your daddy like that?"
Your limbs start to feel like jelly, a mixture of embarrassment, arousal and excitement making you feel light headed. You watch as his eyes look down at the unbuttoned shirt you wore, taking in the sight. 007n7's hands giving a extra hard squeeze on your skin.
"You did this on purpose," the words were whispered out, almost overshadowed by the sound of the metal zip of his work slacks. "I felt like a disgusting father to let that asshole fuck you like that, but here you are putting yourself on a silver platter..."
You would have said something in response, at least nod your head, but the sound of fabric tearing catches your attention. The feeling of the cool air hitting your wet slit making you slightly tremble. 007n7 tosses the fabric that was torn off wordlessly to the side as his free hand holds the base of his pulsing erecting. letting it slap against you. The weight of it making contact with you drawing out pathetic meek sounds from you.
"Fuck I can't hold back anymore-" 007n7, not wasting anymore time, pushes his length intro your pussy effortlessly. The wetness from before helping him go all the way to the hilt, embarrassing you just from how desperate you are.
007n7's deep groan fills the room, his body paused for only a moment to take in the feeling of your tight walls around him again before he goes into a fast pace. His body leaning forward to hover over you more, hands on either side gripping at the bed sheets as the wooden frame repetitively knocks into the wall behind it.
The sounds coming from your mouth were heavenly for 007n7. He was trying so hard to keep his eyes open to watch your face form a fucked out expression. Your eyes beady, mouth hanging open with that tongue of yours slightly poking out.
"My sweet daughter looking like a perfect porn star for her daddy, you like that don't you?" 007n7 growls out those last words, gritting his teeth as if he was still holding himself back in some way. "Couldn't stop thinking about how good you felt, how much I needed to fuck this little hole again, it drove me insane-"
"Come on sweetie, wrap does legs around daddy's waist do that for me please?" He lets out mix between a whine and moan as you followed his order. 007n7 lowers himself to envelop you in another deep kiss, not letting it last too long before his lips trail down to your jaw then your neck. His thrusts maintaining their rabid snapping into you, skin slapping from how wet it was where your bodies made contact.
"Come on, tell daddy how much you like it- tell him how much you love getting fucked like this," His words coming out in a quick secession and almost as fast as his hips. You gasp out feeling small nips on the base of your neck before he finds and bites sensitive spot.
"Y- yes! I like it, I love it!" You voice was dripping with sultry as you felt your father suck on the bite marks he just left on your skin. "I love you so much daddy! Keep fucking me please!" You whine out the last word as his thrusts quicken before stilling itself deep in you.
A heated warmth could be felt filling you and 007n7 lets out a growled moan. You weren't given any time to process what happens next before you were flipped over, being forced to have your ass lifted up into the air as your head dug into the pillow. 007n7 fills your pussy again before continuing his fast pace from before.
Even as your face was drilled into the pillow, you still weren't able to see how 007n7's hand raised up, palm making contact with the skin of your ass with a loud clap. Your cries muffled, 007n7 would give another slap, then another- making sure to stain the skin red.
It stung, a lot. But the pain only enhanced the pleasure. Your cum filled pussy not giving and continuing to suck his pulsing cock back in over and over again.
007n7 leaves forward again, pressing his chest against your back while his hand sneaks around to the front of your crotch, fingers now pressing against your clit.
"Please, I want to cum too!" You shamelessly cried out, not caring how desperate you were looking now.
"Beg for it," 007n7 briefly stops his fingers, "beg for daddy to cum, beg for it sweetie!" his hips stop moving too, threatening the built up pleasure towards your climax to fall.
"Please! Don't stop! I need to cum so bad please please please!!" you try to wiggle your hips, but his other hand did everything in it's power to keep you still. "Please daddy let me cum! Make me cum please!"
His hips start up their pace again, faster this time, and his fingers rubbing circles around your needy clit. 007n7 was panting now, pushing himself to get you to cum now.
"That's it then baby, cum over my cock like a good girl-!" the words growled out now, you felt yourself completely blank out now. Vision blurring as your soft spongy walls tighten around his still pistioning cock. Muffled voice crying out as your whole body twitched going through your climax.
The display of your climax pushing 007n7 over again, filling you up with another load of his hot seed. He thrusts a few more times before stopping, cock deep in you before letting himself fall on his side on the bed. His arms wrapping around your torso and holding you close against him.
Sounds of breathing now fill the room. You felt like an absolute mess. Skin covered in sweat and the insides of your legs now with lines of body fluids going down them. You close your mouth finally, dry from not being able to keep it shut the entire time.
"We... we can take a shower later, okay?" 007n7 softly and tiredly speaks out, and you hum in agreement. "You're perfect as always for me sweet heart," 007n7 presses a kiss on the top of your head, sounding more tired than before. "get some sleep, okay?"
You didn't say anything, just closing your eyes as you let your body rest now.
A/N: I might have gotten carried away again with this oops. I'll try to get some normal smut up soon and fluff fics as well (hopefully)
