WHA OCs… meet Lillian & Tatiana! Who are based off a Florist x Tattoo Artist adjacent idea that spiraled just a little bit!
More doodles/mini comics below!! (Mild WHA spoilers below I think?)
Also, they are both undercover brims, who do not know the other is a brim. They both have their own motives/reasons for practicing forbidden magic. They are also both thinking about recruiting the other to their side :]
(More info can be found on their Art Fight profiles [Lillian] [Tatiana], as it is a lot to rehash here. Or feel free to send an ask if intrigued !)
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(Tatiana typically wears gloves to cover her tattoos in addition to her layers. Typically. Just not today, and she is now in a Situation lol.)
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(Flower Crown Brim would go hard... similar silhouette kinda. But I don't think would cover the face enough traditionally. That was the thought process lol.)
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(I will note, their full brim fits are still a WIP as I am not entirely satisfied with them. But, I think I’m relatively happy with their hats so. Have their hats!)
You know, in regards to your original ramble on the Reverse Entry AU, I can’t help but think about how, technically speaking, Loop got exactly what they wanted in their second wish in either scenario.
They wished it could be over, and their time stuck suffering in the time loops has come to an end.
They wished to ‘get out of here,’ and so the Universe has gotten them out of Dormont, Vaugarde, their home dimension even.
They wished for someone to help them, and in a way, even though it feels so, so unfair here is a Siffrin who had gone through NONE of the same trials or tribulations, isn’t this other Siffrin helping them? Helping give them shelter, helping give them space and room to vent and be able to relax after the horrors of the loops? Helping them be able to learn and potentially, maybe, remember some of their forgotten past even in an altered form like hearing about an alternate Siffrin’s parents?
On that last part, I can’t help but wonder about Loop initially concluding they were sent by the Universe to figure out a way to help this other Siffrin with his comparatively idyllic life retake their parents’ company. Like something Loop tries to chip away at inside their head underneath all the cheeriness and being an annoyance. But eventually, after the bitterness over the perceived situation and after Siffrin has managed to break through some of Loop’s hangups, Loop is able to start getting into the process of healing from their ordeal. What they’re doing doesn’t have to be a hustle merely to fund a plan to retake the Company. They could also just get to do things for themself and take care of themself, you know?
My goodness you always nail it on the head!
The initial thought on if/how to incorporate Loop into the AU was, “hey what if the monkey curls a little bit more than normal”, hence straight up shoving them into a completely different dimension where even the rules of the world aren’t the same as they once knew it.
And from there, a lead into an exploration for Loop on how they probably feel “othered” existing in such a world. Already lost their country, their family, and hell even their identity. Next thing they know literally EVERYTHING they once knew no longer makes sense?? Yeah.
However, there is also the exploration on Loop having the opportunity to interact with Siffrin who:
Remembers much more than they did
Is able to talk with them in much longer chunks on a consistent basis (basically every time they come back after work/weekends, vs their tree talks like once a loop)
With that, the opportunity to explore their own past, in a sense, just like you said! Especially they don't remember anything, possibly remembers more about being the the timeloop than anything before, while this Siffrin distinctly does remember.
As for the conclusion they come to a side hustle, honestly didn’t really think much about that for the vtuber aspect at first!! But you are so right!! If they think they’re were sent to this world to be helping this Siffrin they might start getting tunnel visioned into that idea, leading into the hustle to begin with. It’s only when they are able to get out of that mindset they’d probably start to even begin processing their whole ordeal.
Just discovered your modern office AU, and I gotta say, now I’m wondering how does the Country being made into the Company affect Siffrin and the King’s memories if it does. I saw your post talking about Loop looking at this AU Siffrin and him having had a comparatively MUCH easier and idyllic life, but unless I missed something, it seems like there isn’t a full equivalent to the whole memory block imposed by the wish that disappeared the island in canon. Sure, NDAs from Siffrin selling the Company and the new owners transforming its legacy over the years would sorta be similar, but the actual memories would still be there. So with that, I can’t help but picture something like Loop rifling through Siffrin’s apartment before stumbling across a couple of old family photos - and not Siffrin’s found family.
On one hand, it would be a cherry on top of the sundae of bitterness towards modern office Siffrin’s comparatively idyllic life. Not only did this Siffrin not experience any of the horrors Loop did. Not only can he remember where he came from and who their parents were. But he even has more mementos of their past than the single outfit and boat Loop was left with after sailing away from the island.
On the other hand, I just can’t help but picture Loop, hands trembling from holding the photo up, asking Siffrin if he could tell them about his parents…
Oh!! Yeah, from what I currently have drafted/planned for this silly AU there isn't an exact 1:1 of the memory block situation of the Company compared to the Country. Instead, there is a fading memory situation going on in its place to fulfill a similar role. And you are 100% spot-on the transformed legacy bit there for the company, but still having physical mementos for Siffrin in particular LMAO.
To expand a little bit on the fading memory bit though, on Siffrin’s end, while he probably has less memory issues than in canon (since no Country occurrence), he still has some memory issues here. Unfortunately for Siffrin, that also means they end up agonizing a lot over their fading memory of their parents and the Company in conjunction with it being slowly transformed over time.
In addition to that, the other employees/regulars of the Company still seem to remember Siffrin's parents pretty well. Like, some people have stories upon stories to tell about them, in-jokes, the like. Stuff that wouldn't have anything physical associated with them. Some of which, while Siffrin was involved, they don't actually remember. Which is something they feel pretty guilty about!! Yet another painful reminder on how much of a failure they are when it comes to them and all. At least Siffrin still has some physical mementos of them at the very least!
As for Loop rifling around and discover some of this Siffrin's physical mementos of his parents. All I will say right now is that is one of the first things they do when finding themself reverse-isekaied into Siffrin's apartment, actually! I mean what else are you to do when you wake up in an unknown location but look around, right? Nothing else though since that will get a more formal comic thing at some point. It was actually one of the first things I drafted for this AU actually?? I just haven't gotten around to proper finishing it lol.
But!! OW the idea of Loop asking Siffrin about their parents... even if they know the parents of this Siffrin are going to be different to their own... it's better than not remembering them in any form at all, right?
So yeah! Apologies for the delay on answering, but thank you so much for the ask!! :D
May I ask for some more reverse entry Au Vtube Loop like what if he actually continued playing more games?
I kind of want to see loop playing other time loop games? Or maybe some indie games (that definitely wouldn’t be in stars and time since that would be really confusing. Some part of me was thinking of Undertale and a hat in time for some reason) 
Ah! Honestly I kinda envisioned VTuber Loop streaming challenge runs of games that would typically be considered easy/chill (think Pokemon Nuzlockes, Hardcore Minecraft, etc), while also being comically bad at them. They try so so hard, then proceed to fail miserably every single time, then need to restart yet again. Doesn't stop them from trying though!!
I just thought it’d be funny is all :]
But for indie games I think it’d be interesting for them to get into more story-based ones? Cuz it could be similar to getting immersed into a play by being in the audience and having it unfold in front of you in real time. Except this time, it’s them and the audience (stream) with them as the driver of whatever story-based game they’re playing, and getting immersed that way, if that makes sense.
Or just super chill ones. Let them fish in WEBFISHING as a way to relax after the Horrors /silly
I also really like the idea of Loop getting to play more timeloop-esque games! However, I do not know how well that would bode for their mental well-being!! Could remind them of their time in the loops and all. Plus, depending on the game, watching it unfold, watching the protaginist escape the loop and have a happy ending? Oof!
Side note: the thought of ISAT (the video game) existing in this AU is very funny to me actually?? Can you imagine if Loop somehow:
Finds out about the existence about this game
Plays it on stream
Realizes they are ALSO in this game?? For some reason?? (as LOOP, not as the Siffrin)
See’s Everything.
Realizes the rest of the AU cast doesn’t recognize the fact they all look and have the same names as this game??
Has some form a crisis, although this also probably happened during other steps too??
…Hm! So so sorry about how long it took to answer but thank you for the ask!!! :]
Here is the original ramble! Actually I will preface this new rb by saying please feel free to correct me if I am mistaken in misremembering anything in these!! Okay here it is under the cut proper
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Okay, so honestly this is more or less an excuse to ramble out an appreciation post (of sorts) on everyone tbh, since I do not do that often if ever. I'm just using the quote picks to keep me a bit focused on topics a bit more specific than being completely aimless!
[Also specialist of special shoutouts to my friends Squid and Aya for proofreading all this. Ily guys ever so dearly <3333]
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Mirabelle
"Avoidance, huh... That feels... a little too cowardly, for me."
The Housemaiden, who would probably fulfill the 'Hero' role if this was a normal RPG, Mirabelle! She has a lot going on that's so interesting to me!! Okay tbf everyone else does too but I really just needed a segue.
She's the chosen one that wasn't really chosen. The reason she was blessed was due to circumstance, and it wasn't even by the Change God either. Because of that, she feels immense pressure/imposter syndrome since she knows the truth of her blessing. Speaking of feelings, she also already felt like she’s failing her own faith for being comfortable with herself, in staying the same forever. For not wanting to Change in that way, when everyone else can, and feeling broken because of it. And, of course, she literally has anxiety and hasn’t had access to her meds throughout the entire quest. That probably also does not help in the slightest!! It's an interesting stewing pot of feeling like a fraud of a 'chosen one' with all that in mind.
And yet, her dedication to her faith and country shines through her actions and words, whether she knows it or not. She’s not someone to avoid her worries. She’ll face them, head-on, even if she doesn't think she'll succeed. I feel like this quote captures it best to me actually! Especially since it's a direct response to Sif saying that they try to avoid their own doubts and worries, in comparison to Mira’s own in her own faith. It almost feels like a subconscious response, and to me that says a lot.
[Side-tangent, but it's also interesting to me that this very dedication works against her, in a sense? Like, notably the bonding proposals. Beyond the societal pressures in play related to the Change belief, she is also the one to take the initiative to ask a dating company for bonding proposals, it didn't just happen around her (as in, no one suggested this to her)? Even when she isn't even interested in dating anyone to begin with! She's not interested in Changing in that way!!! That is to say, her head-on dedication can be to the point of her own detriment at times, to the point of bringing her woe? Not sure if I am wording this properly. Just a thought I had, idk if it has much merit tho. Sorry if that made like no sense!!]
But yeah! She gives it her all in just about everything she does!! She was already known as the most hardworking Housemaiden in the House, always striving to better herself, always taking new classes prior to all this (over 150! and she herself said that she couldn't do anything before coming to the House, which makes it all the more impressive). And when faced with the insurmountable task of saving her home, all of Vauguarde, from being frozen over by the King? She continues on to take on the mantle as the chosen one, the one who will save everyone, and she starts it off completely alone. She's the reason the journey was able to play out, and why everyone is together in the first place. All because she isn't one to avoid her doubts and worries, and willingness to do it scared, yanno? It's just a small part on what I appreciate about her, but I think I'm going to cut myself off here!
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Isabeau
"Doesn't that feel like someone you wouldn't feel ashamed of knowing?"
Isabeau!! Literally the whole “Change is destruction” convo that Isa has prior to this quote was up to be picked, but I figured picking the end would be easiest. But now that I think about it, I think all my picks are basically at the end of the FQ's so that point is sort of moot. Oh well! It's just hard to pick a singular quote off of these okay!!
Isabeau from the start of the game is shown to be portraying himself as a himbo. Big guy, dumb guy, the like. But, even from the start, there are signs that he really isn't stupid, like at all! First early gameish example I can think of off the top of my head, that distinctly shows this, is the color theory book. Mainly because he sort of kind of drops the facade for a split second there. Without proper context to his deal, it's just a funny moment. But, reflecting after the fact, it's more of an '...OH!' moment, since he seems to have been kinda upset about not knowing about colors (even if he's hamming it up a little bit, saying he's 'failed them all' for not knowing what colors were.) And that's not even going into his emotional intelligence either.
But, delving into his FQ the full picture is shown. That he wasn't always this big boisterous guy. He used to be the nerdiest kid around, incredibly shy, and because of that he didn't like himself much. But then he Changed and is much happier now, compared to back then! Even after his Change though, he's unhappy with some aspects of himself. He doesn’t like being considered dumb because of his act. And, even after Changing, that kid from before is still there, right? As much as he continues to project this air of cool confidence, he can never truly be rid of that part of his old self, can he? The one always paralyzed by fear.
With that, comes the quote pick! Since, to me, he's not necessarily talking to just Siffrin here, but also to himself. Because it all boils down to his own self-hatred, I think? He himself does mention this in the A5 version of this FQ, albeit kinda heat of the moment, that he "...keeps changing personalities like clothes, because it's easier than learning to like myself." He's still a work in progress in that regard. But even still, he is trying to be better, for the people he cares about.
[Small aside, that too can maybe stem from his own self-loathing? Putting the people he cares about first. I mean, he is the one who told Sif to focus on the others first. And even after that, he was putting focus onto Sif at first during his FQ (as in, talking about how he thought Sif would like seeing the stars, only letting the convo slide into focus unto himself after Sif made an obvious topic change.) The quote also kind of reads as an ask of reassurance, in a sense? That him Changing again would allow himself to be someone that people would like, even if he himself doesn't like himself. Idk where I was going with this tbh, but I think it makes sense to keep its inclusion here!]
Overall, I just think it's interesting to revisit Isa's previous dialogues with the context of the FQ!! Especially when thinking on the underlying reasons as to why the way he's acting the way he is, even while seeing signs from the start that he isn't the airhead he was masquerading as.
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Odile
"I'm Ka Buan and Vauguardian, in ways I do and don't realize... And I am also myself."
The Researcher, Odile! I think I’m just gonna jump right into it without a semblance of an intro since I know it’s going to be a lil less focused. Mainly because I know for a fact I will not be able to articulate this ramble that well, so here we go.
As the oldest party member, it makes sense that she's much further along in her own character development / self-discovery journey in comparison to the others (at least in relation to her FQ centered struggle on finding out more about herself in relation to her heritage), and I think her FQ, in itself, helps portray that. Compared to Mira and Isa, who are still in the midst of their own personal journey on how to address their turmoil and putting it to action, Bonnie, who is the youngest of the group and is learning how to tackle their issues to begin with, and Siffrin who is going through All That™; Odile has come to a conclusion about her own woes, where the others have not.
That’s part of the reason why I went with the quote pick actually! In a sense, it’s a display of self-assuredness in herself that can really only be gained with time and experience. She’s also able to explain her feelings on her heritage eloquently as well, and the convo prior to the quote helps express them too! It’s the recognition that yes, her mixed heritage helped shape who she is as a person in ways she may or may not realize, that it’s not the only factor at play here in regard to her identity. It’s the fact that, at the end of the day, what matters most is that she is herself, yanno?
Even with her self-assuredness towards herself, it’s also interesting to me how that contrasts her closed-offness to the others, especially in outright saying/showing that she cares? Which also probably also stems from her mother, someone who was supposed to love and care for her, leaving without a trace early on in life. It makes sense to me that she would have reluctance in showing that she cares for the others!! What if she ends up hurting others similarly to how her mother hurt her? Of course, she wouldn’t want to do that to the others, and is distinctly also why she does NOT want to be called a Mom.
[Tangent that doesn’t relate as much to the quote, but I want to touch upon anyway since it’s FQ related. I also want to point out that the FQ helps inform us why Odile is more willing to question things around her / be more sus? When her mother left, she left nothing behind, and with it, any links to her Vauguardian roots. This left her with a complete loss of that connection, one that was stolen from her and, with that, the feeling like she didn’t belong anywhere as a result. This led her to be curious enough to seek out a resolution to that feeling, lending more into her inquisitiveness on just about anything. How else would she be able to learn more about Vauguarde, without asking questions, after all!]
All in all, for Odile it’s a bit harder for me to elaborate on why I like her? I dunno, I think it’s just hard to sum it all up as eloquently as she probably could LOL.
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Bonnie
"So you can protect me, and I can protect you... And we can protect everyone, too!"
Bonnie!! TBH I had a toss-up on what specific quote the drawing would be based around. The other one being “You got hurt because of me and— And I don’t like it!!! I don’t want it to have happened! You should have stood there and let me be hurt!” . Because of the toss up both quotes will be discussed somewhat, since they go hand in hand with the ramble!
[To note, the toss-up was decided by putting it on a poll to my friends, as a simple “choose !” with the options being “joyful” or “angsty” with ZERO context. I told them after what the poll was for (basically if Bonnie would be crying or not in the drawing) and I got threatened for that one HAHA.]
But, to start, Bonnie has had, not once, but twice, people sacrificing themselves in some way for them (Nille telling them to run and getting frozen, Siffrin losing his eye.) Makes sense, because they're a kid, so of course those who are older need to protect them. Still, they are not happy about this, about people getting hurt because of them, and understandably so! It probably doesn't feel good to have your loved ones putting themselves in harm's way for your sake. But what can they do, right? They're a kid and don't really get a say on the matter. I mean, what else can they do? It makes sense to me that Bonnie is frustrated about that part!! It can be frustrating to have everyone discuss things around you, have everyone do things that you don't want them to, and (unintentionally or not), ignoring your input as a person because you are so young.
Kids are smarter than you think. Even if they may not have a full understanding of what's going on, they can certainly follow along and get the gist. Like, for example, Bonnie always listens in on the burial conversation during the second snack break (first found out either during a FQ run or in Memory of Promise). They even pretend not to hear whatever Siffrin says to make everyone think that they aren't listening in! They also seem to hone in completely to the conversation the second Isabeau says that it doesn't matter what happens to him after he dies, since they stop prepping at that point. Even worse, everyone starts discussing how they won't let Bonnie be killed. Which, if it comes to fruition, would be the third instance of people getting hurt because of them, and would be another thing they get zero say in! And everyone thinks they aren't listening in on it, meaning they were being discussed around. Plus, in Memory of Promise, while they don't have the words to articulate why everyone talking about their deaths is so upsetting to them, this context spells out the picture of them not wanting people to be hurt because of them, time and time again.
So when they get a proper opportunity to have a say on something, their promise with Siffrin on protecting one another, to protect everyone too? It makes the exchange all the sweeter to me! It's the first time, in probably a long time, Bonnie has had proper input on something from someone older than them on an important decision. For once, they get to stand on a more equal footing to an adult, rather than being treated as a kid who doesn't know what's going on. And, it probably means more to Bonnie than Siffrin realizes.
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There’s probably a lot more of examples/subtopics I am forgetting to add onto all of these but. Please forgive me, but a good chunk of this was written while I was travelling or in one sitting on my singular day off after travel ASDAFSA. I might genuinely be forgetting something I wanted to talk about, esp since I couldn't double check stuff easily. I've been going off a combination of memory and downloaded friend ISAT streams LMAOOO.
Feel free to correct me on stuff I possibly? Completely misconstrued as well?? Since that is entirely possible in happening! Or further add onto thoughts! In short feel free to extend the discussion on any of this! But yeah, wrangling (some) of my thoughts on why I like them has been fun :D
And to those of you who read all of this to the end, thank you for reading my ramblings!! And if you're skipping to the end, FAIR ENOUGH LMAO!!
Regardless though, I'll end this off with a fun lil fun fact about this post! If I scheduled this properly, it should be going up at 11:11... somewhere! I thought it'd be a fun easter egg to myself. Mainly bc I remember people always used to say "11:11, make a wish!" a lot when I was school whenever the clock struck that time. I just thought it'd be fitting to queue this up for that time is all :]
(aka loop getting reverse isekaied into the modern office au)
also there are some scattered mumblings on loop in this AU under the cut actually in an rb now link right here if anyone's interested (spoilers for all of ISAT, including 2hats!)
okay here is the original ramble under the cut here! mainly doing these to the ones with associated textposts for different tagging systems tbh LOL
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TLDR - The Universe keeps fucking with Loop and they are not really happy about it, regardless of timing.
While I haven't decided anything 100% concrete for Loop, the idea of a reverse isekaied Loop in general is interesting to me, so I'll be exploring that a bit here. Especially in terms of timing on when Loop gets taken out of their timeline. At least in terms of immediate outlook within this AU. So, for now, have a couple of those thoughts!
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The two main points in time I am currently considering are the following:
1. From when they gave up their original wish and made a new one.
In this instance, I feel like their arc would play a bit similar to in game
Seeing this new world as different & peaceful
Since they don’t have to deal with the loops anymore, just watch whatever happens.
Be a lil silly for funsies! The chaos that can ensue with a star being existing within a modern world!
Even though it hurts to see Siffrin’s team hanging around, they really don’t have anywhere to go at the moment (hard to hide a star being in this type of world)
To a slow realization of how unfair this whole situation is. In comparison to all of the horrors they went through, this Siffrin has it so easy.
This Siffrin gets to live an idyllic life, free from the world calamity of being frozen & the literal time loop.
This Siffrin gets to freely hang around their family team, with no foreseeable "end" to being with them in sight.
This Siffrin had their original wish, the wish Loop wanted granted, handed to them on a silver platter.
This Siffrin, nor anyone in this world, would ever be able to come close to understanding what Loop went through; Loop would never truly be seen in this world, not fully anyway.
What does The Universe have against them, to put them into this world and make them witness all of this?
It should have been them, with this carefree type of life, given all they went through.
2. AFTER the fight with Siffrin.
This leans a bit more lighthearted than the last, since Loop would have gone through all the development from the game via convos + the talk at the very end with Siffrin, and has a bit more peace about their whole deal.
Perhaps they would still see the same conclusions as above, since healing from the horrors would not happen all at once, if ever, with additional flavor
Underlying bitterness in why the script is still going.
Why is The Universe asking for them to continue into a new world and role?
Haven’t they had enough, once making them witness another Siffrin’s loops and perfect ending, and now a completely idyllic Siffrin’s life from the get go?
However, there is also a bit of hope in the entire situation. Since if The Universe keeps deciding to fuck with them (as in, sending them to different world lines) there is still, technically, the chance of going backward as well.
To their original timeline and to their family.
Once could have been a one-off, but twice?
Perhaps three world jumps might be the minimum to go back, following standard wishing rituals?
More hope in this one from the get-go, with that thought in mind.
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Though there are probably other points in time that would be interesting too!
Another one I was considering was RIGHT BEFORE the fight with Siffrin, perhaps even mid-fight. However, I don't think that makes much sense for this particular AU ASAFASFASDAS. Can you imagine if Loop just spawned into this world, doesn't realize this is a completely different Siffrin, and attacks on sight?????
Honestly the idea of a reverse-isekaied Loop into different AU's in general is neat, would love to see other people's takes on it!! Especially cuz of the various reactions/conclusions Loop could have/make based on the scenario/circumstances would be interesting, if that makes sense. At least I think there is something in that thought? I dunno!
I feel like I am missing some characterization bits in here, but that was the main gist of it for now since I cannot remember LMAO.
Mumblings over, thanks for reading my silly thoughts if you got this far!!!
some random reverse entry au [office + reverse isekai loop] drawings :thumbsup:
[mildly interested in this silly au? here is a link to scroll through for all the stuff i've made for it! i'll make a proper master post... someday.....]
vaguely based on a stream silly from the first stream. when my friend KEPT INTERRUPTING LOOP DIALOGUE.
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aaand. well. apologies for layers of links because 18+. if you are intrigued by that clip and want to watch the full streams there' s a link to the full vods channel in this linked post right here.
(there are 11 streams.... mainly because we did all the optional content except the ghosts event i think? because RNG)
