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Today, I snapped at a man for cutting in front of me in the pharmacy line.
I was standing back where I was supposed to be while the woman in front of me was getting her meds. Like most pharmacies, mine has you wait like 10 feet back from the counter in an attempt to protect patient privacy.
While I was waiting, a man sidled up, looked at me, and then wandered up to the counter. The (male) clerk stopped what he was saying to the patient in front of me, looked at him, and asked, “Did you have a question?”
“No, I have a prescription,” said the idiot man “My name is [X]”. He had an accent, and between that and his name, my guess was that he was from the Middle East. Might explain his casual disregard for my presence, idk.
“You need to step back for patient privacy,” the clerk said, gesturing towards where I was standing. I was parked right next to the sign that said “line starts here.” There was no one else in line.
The man looked at the clerk. Looked at me. We made eye contact. He looked at the clerk. Walked over to me.
Stood in front of me.
“Dude, I was here first,” I said. Loudly, both because I was surprised by the rudeness and because I wanted to draw attention to this guy’s shitty behavior. I’m a big believer in the power of shame.
The (male) pharmacy clerk looked up at the man, then at me. He did not say anything, despite clearly seeing what had happened. I figured this was just going to be yet another situation where a woman standing up for herself has to do it alone. Frustrating, but not surprising.
Idiot man turned around slowly and said, “What did you say to me?” Literally looking down his nose at me since he was at least a foot taller than me. He seemed in disbelief that a short, fat, ugly woman would dare speak to him.
I repeated, louder, “I was here first. The line is behind me.”
Idiot man said, “I am in a hurry,” as if it were obvious I had nowhere important to be. He shrugged and turned back around.
Before I could really react to that beyond briefly contemplating murder, a (female) clerk stepped up to the counter and called out, “I can help who’s next!”
Idiot man stepped forward. The fucking audacity. I reminded myself I would not like prison.
Female clerk said sharply, “No, not you, that lady was here first.”
I don’t know how long she’d been watching the interaction or where she’d come from, but damn, it turned out that I wasn’t alone in taking a tiny stand against this guy’s shitty behavior after all!
I stepped around the idiot man and shot him a smile over my shoulder. He did not smile back. When I got to the counter, I whispered a quick thanks to the (female) clerk for shutting him down. She smiled, shrugged, and whispered, “If you hadn’t said anything to him, I probably would have ignored him too.”
Lessons learned from this encounter:
1. Men will not call out another man’s misogyny even if it happens right in front of them
2. There are, however, women watching and taking their cues when you stand up for yourself, even if it might not seem like it at first.
Going to reblog this post again as the middle eastern line was brought up to bring attention to it. I will admit that sentence passed me by as I have a bad habit of skimming over while reading on social media but I think it’s been said time and time again that we can call out male behavior without bringing race or culture into it.
Radblr has a BAD history with talking about immigrant men and “protecting your borders” etc….
Lo sanno tutti che gli uomini del medioriente sono meglio degli svedesi raga, cioè è ovvio 👌
“everyone knows that middle eastern men are better than swedish guys, that is obvious” what is the correlation…genuinely what does a man cutting in line have to do with his race or ethnicity or nationality? what does it have to do with swedes?
If op/the commenter is Swedish it feels quite relevant, because we haven’t been great at integrating the large amount of refuges we’ve had. It’s a major problem.
Like, I’ve openly, in broad daylight, been called a whore to my face for wearing something that was slightly revealing (hot day). That doesn’t happen with Swedish men. It was poorly phrased by op, but I understand the frustration when it feels like parts of society is bending over backwards trying not to offend the MENA men, and throw women under the bus for it. Both immigrant women and Swedish ones.
I could write an essay about the problems I’ve had with the women’s shelter/rec center (don’t know what else to call it) where I’ve been volunteering.
We get a few immigrant women who are assigned us for language training and their husbands, sons or brothers walk them there, call to make sure there aren’t any men allowed in, pick them up at the door and still sometimes forbid them from coming. Sons forcing their mom to wear hijab. Sons beating their mother for not wearing it. At this point I’m not even shocked when it happens.
Immigrant teens talking about studying and becoming doctors and lawyers, only to disappear from us, and later we hear through the grapevine that they are now married and no longer in school. This doesn’t happen with the Swedish girls.
If the commenter is Swedish I understand that frustration is building. We are increasingly disrespected in society by these men, and that includes cutting in line. Or served last. Or jeered.
Disrespecting women is seen across all ethnicities of men, but some cultures are worse at it. Those men bring it with them. Sweden has been ridiculously bad at combatting it.
Side note: social services see it as a great win and a sign of progress that the immigrant women are allowed to visit us. A very forward thinking family! And that’s true. The conservative families wouldn’t allow for it. Meanwhile, most of the native Swedish women who come, live with men who I’d consider the worst of the worst - sexism wise - by Swedish standard.
Today, I snapped at a man for cutting in front of me in the pharmacy line.
I was standing back where I was supposed to be while the woman in front of me was getting her meds. Like most pharmacies, mine has you wait like 10 feet back from the counter in an attempt to protect patient privacy.
While I was waiting, a man sidled up, looked at me, and then wandered up to the counter. The (male) clerk stopped what he was saying to the patient in front of me, looked at him, and asked, “Did you have a question?”
“No, I have a prescription,” said the idiot man “My name is [X]”. He had an accent, and between that and his name, my guess was that he was from the Middle East. Might explain his casual disregard for my presence, idk.
“You need to step back for patient privacy,” the clerk said, gesturing towards where I was standing. I was parked right next to the sign that said “line starts here.” There was no one else in line.
The man looked at the clerk. Looked at me. We made eye contact. He looked at the clerk. Walked over to me.
Stood in front of me.
“Dude, I was here first,” I said. Loudly, both because I was surprised by the rudeness and because I wanted to draw attention to this guy’s shitty behavior. I’m a big believer in the power of shame.
The (male) pharmacy clerk looked up at the man, then at me. He did not say anything, despite clearly seeing what had happened. I figured this was just going to be yet another situation where a woman standing up for herself has to do it alone. Frustrating, but not surprising.
Idiot man turned around slowly and said, “What did you say to me?” Literally looking down his nose at me since he was at least a foot taller than me. He seemed in disbelief that a short, fat, ugly woman would dare speak to him.
I repeated, louder, “I was here first. The line is behind me.”
Idiot man said, “I am in a hurry,” as if it were obvious I had nowhere important to be. He shrugged and turned back around.
Before I could really react to that beyond briefly contemplating murder, a (female) clerk stepped up to the counter and called out, “I can help who’s next!”
Idiot man stepped forward. The fucking audacity. I reminded myself I would not like prison.
Female clerk said sharply, “No, not you, that lady was here first.”
I don’t know how long she’d been watching the interaction or where she’d come from, but damn, it turned out that I wasn’t alone in taking a tiny stand against this guy’s shitty behavior after all!
I stepped around the idiot man and shot him a smile over my shoulder. He did not smile back. When I got to the counter, I whispered a quick thanks to the (female) clerk for shutting him down. She smiled, shrugged, and whispered, “If you hadn’t said anything to him, I probably would have ignored him too.”
Lessons learned from this encounter:
1. Men will not call out another man’s misogyny even if it happens right in front of them
2. There are, however, women watching and taking their cues when you stand up for yourself, even if it might not seem like it at first.
Omg here’s the post. Hey op - what did this man’s race have to do with his actions? Quickly now
it’s always so obvious when people make these posts that they’ve never lived in a culturally diverse are
men from patriarchal cultures bring their shitty attitudes towards women with them
why would you pretend like this isn’t true
I read that as the tiniest bit of courtesy given to him through the lens of cultural relativism because most of us were taught through liberal feminism to give that courtesy. Is Middle Eastern misogyny not more overt? While the west is more covert?
but how is cutting in line more overt misogyny 😭 how is him cutting in line relevant to his race, that’s what i don’t get
It’s exhausting pretending like men from cultures with stronger patriarchal values don’t disrespect women more casually and easily
In my experience, Middle Eastern men have been wildly more sexist to me than American-raised men. Both are misogynistic, but pretending like western men that are raised around feminists are somehow just as sexist in every way is nonsense
And it’s not limited to men from that part of the world. If they’re from a country where women are still second-class citizens, men don’t abandon those values when they come to the U.S.
The revolution for women won't happen overnight, it will happen so slowly that it will be practically unnoticeable. One day, a hundred years from now, a young woman will wake up and walk out into a world where she doesn't have to wear makeup or shave . As she walks to university, she wont worry about catcallers, or men following her. As she sits down in class and opens her textbook, it wont surprise her that the author is a woman, the teacher is a woman, her doctor is a woman, the president is a woman. It will be normal for her.
When she gets home, she'll turn on the news and the newscaster will be a woman, telling her that the population of men has drastically fallen in the past century, a hundred years ago it was much higher. She wont care, she'll change the channel and watch a nature documentary on revitalized marine populations and enjoy her tea.
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DONT FORGET ABOUT IRAN
Dont forget about Jina amini (mahsa amini)
Dont forget about Nika Shakarami
Dont forget about Fereshteh Ahmadi
Dont forget about about Sarina Esmailzadeh
Dont forget about Farideh Moradkhani
Dont forget about Armita Abbasi
Dont forget about Soheyla Hejab
Dont forget about Amir Nasr-Azadani
Dont forget about Saeed Shirazi
Dont forget about Taraneh Alidoosti
Dont forget about Elnaz Rekabi
Dont forget about Mohammad Mehdi Karami
Dont forget about Majidreza Rahnavard
Dont forget about Mohsen Shekari
Dont forget about Baluch people
Dont forget about Kurd people
Dont forget about Iranian women
Dont forget about LGBTQ Iranians
Dont forget about the voices of Iran here on tumblr
Dont forget about disabled and elderly Iranians
Dont forget about the famlies who were seprated and/or lost loved ones
Dont forget about the protestors who died throughout the past three months
Dont forget about the innocent victims who were slaughtered under the regime for the past 44 years
DONT FORGET!!! NEVER FORGET WOMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM
can't think of anything. go ahead
very evil chaotic vibes on radblr these days...i do not like.
#the popular blogs on here publishing inflammatory anon asks need to stop. i get it you’re popular you have influence#but why are you letting people use your inbox as a message board to say whatever? delete them!
exactly @helly-r
maybe we should just invent a religion that says we have the right to female only spaces. at this point I'm running out of ideas that don't involve mass murder
Thinking about how most discussion around ‘educate boys’ is sub-textually presented from a position where sexual violence is a default, expected behaviour that must be trained out, rather than treating it as a learned behaviour that could be prevented if the teaching was identified and stamped out
For instance: the idea that someone needs to teach boys/young men that ‘no means no’. Actually, it’s rare that a boy would reach an age where he’s capable of committing sexual violence without having learned the meaning of the word ‘no’, or the meanings of the words ‘stop’, ‘don’t’, or ‘that hurts’. The default position, the position that comes first, I would argue, is knowing what ‘no’ means. The issue at hand is that at some point after that understanding occurs, an additional lesson is learned, which is that some ‘no’s don’t have to be respected. That lesson, that teaching, is what needs to be undone and prevented, and in order to do so it must be recognised and acknowledged.
men are so obsessed with women to the point where they will draw or stage photographs of what they think women’s lives are like when men aren’t around or even when no one is around, they are obsessed with corrupting the solitude of women with their watchful eyes, they think they can imagine or correctly understand the multitudes of womanhood through the lens of art because they believe themselves to be artists that are somehow above misogyny and have therefore gained a higher understanding of womanhood and women’s solitude. men are literally obsessed with corrupting women in any way they can, be it by taking a woman’s “virtue” or by painting pictures that basically say even when women are alone, when women try to be free from society, when we are just lying in our beds or staring ourselves in the bathroom mirror, men are always always always watching. so like… male artists paint something else challenge
terfs dont touch this post
people who excuse their disgusting misogyny by saying stuff like “well the whole world supports hetero relationships so it’s no problem if I call a bi woman in need of an abortion a dick rider" are so ridiculous. the world supports hetero relationships but not the women in those relationships, especially not if we get pregnant. women are blamed and shamed for having sex with men in the real world. not because of "heterophobia" or something silly like that, it's literally just misogyny (and biphobia too in your case). every woman I know irl who has sex with men has been treated like she's the gatekeeper of their sex life or something, so every time they have sex it's because "she let him," not because they both consented. people always wanna tell women to "stop touching dick" if we don't want to be pregnant, but no one tells men to stop touching pussy. (not saying it's your bf's fault either, these things happen, just noting an inconsistency.)
This is SO real - women in het relationships aren't supported in any sphere, just the concept of het relationships themselves are, I hadn't mentally made that separation but you're absolutely right. Go off ♥️
the same shit is said about mothers too. "the whole world wants women to be mothers, so women are not oppressed for having men's children!" like...? yeah sure, women are paid lip service by their overbearing family, community etc about how wonderful it is to be a mother, but that rarely translates into real support. most of the time, women are left holding the bag. given the option, women will have fewer kids or none at all partially bc they know they won't receive any support other than niceties about how "isn't motherhood wonderful?" - usually from the same ppl who encouraged (or often coerced) their decision to have kids while fully knowing they werent going to provide actual assistance once the baby is here. most women would rather choose to face some social ostracization for being childless than struggle by themselves to raise their kids for 18+ years, bc they see how dirty other women have been done. the vague concept of motherhood is praised, actual real mothers are not.
Society doesn't even support "het relationships" I hate this dumbass narrative. Society supports men being entitled to a wife/mom/maid/sex toy, nothing about what it generally supports is a RELATIONSHIP, it's just men getting a servant.
The value of a female life is determined by its reproductive value. What will happen to all the women who are not altogether necessary because their children in particular are not altogether desirable? The old women starving in poverty are starving because their reproductive lives are over and they are worth nothing. The old women incarcerated in cruel nursing homes are there because their reproductive lives are over and they are worth nothing. The women who are too poor or too black or brown and who have too many children are starved and threatened and degraded and slowly killed through state-sponsored neglect because they are having children, because they reproduce too much, because the value put on their reproducing is negative and characterized by annihilating disregard. The women who are kept in line now, millions upon millions of them each year, through the judicious application of mood-altering drugs, are kept chemically happy, calm, tranquil, or energetic so that they will hang in there, have and raise the children and keep house for their husbands even though their lives fill them with distress and addiction is what keeps them conforming. They too are part of a throwaway population of females: because their own well-being is viciously subordinated to a predetermined standard of what a woman is and what a woman does and what a woman needs to be a woman (she needs to keep doing female things, whether she wants to or not). What are the lives of all these women worth? Is there anything in the way they are viewed or valued that upholds their human dignity as individuals? They already matter very little. They are treated with cruelty or callous indifference. They have already been thrown away. It is public policy to throw them away. What is going to happen to women when reproduction—the only capacity that women have that men really need (Portoy's piece of liver can substitute for the rest in hard times)—is no longer the exclusive province of the class women? What is going to happen to women who have only one argument for the importance of their existence—that their reproductive capacities are worth a little something (shelter, food, solace, minimal respect)—when men can make babies?
-Andrea Dworkin, Right Wing Women
In panels and discussions on religion and abortion I have frequently cited the following set of statistics: one hundred percent of the bishops who oppose the repeal of anti-abortion laws are men and one hundred percent of the people who have abortions are women. These thoroughly researched "statistics" have the double advantage of being both irrefutable and entertaining, thereby placing the speaker in an enviable situation vis-a-vis the audience. More important than this, however, is the fact that this simple juxtaposition of data suggests something of the context in which positions and arguments concerning the morality of abortion and the repeal of anti-abortion laws should be understood. To be comprehended adequately, they must be seen within the context of sexually hierarchical society. It is less than realistic, for example, to ignore the evidence suggesting that within Roman Catholicism the "official" opposition to the repeal of anti-abortion laws is profoundly interconnected—on the level of motivations, basic assumptions, and style of argumentation—with positions on other issues. Such interconnected issues include birth control, divorce, the subordination of women in marriage and in convents, and the exclusion of women from the ranks of the clergy. The fact that all of the major ethical studies of the abortion problem, both Catholic and Protestant, have been done by men is itself symptomatic of women's oppressed condition.
-Mary Daly, Beyond God the Father: Toward a Philosophy of Women’s Liberation
Anyone telling ANY group of women that they don’t need/deserve romantic intimacy and the simple pleasure of sex with someone they find physically attractive is being a misogynist
The underlying message is that whatever potential services that woman can provide to others comes before her own desires and ability to access the entire human experience
Like, that’s it. Full stop.
Pissed at who a woman is fucking? Step back and accept that you’re angry that she won’t let YOU control her sexuality. Then ask yourself who the fuck you think you are
You fools. When you drive off funny Radblr bloggers the person who fills their niche in the ecosystem ends up being the evil version of them.
then everyone on radblr needs to stop playing Trigger Chicken