I have literally just gotten around to watching Thunderbolts* and for me its quite a difficult film to place. The strengths are really strong yet the weaknesses are hard to ignore.
To start on a positive note, it was thematically really great. It had a clear and fairly uplifting moral about not isolating yourself from the people who care about you when you're struggling. The scenes with Yelena and Alexei were heartfelt and felt like they aligned with the characters we met in Black Widow. Yelena, to me, really felt like Natasha's sister and her continued grief is refreshingly realistic.
Another big highlight for me was Bob. My impression of him was that it felt like a man with bipolar, borderline personality disorder and a lot of trauma was given a super serum. I know that's basically what they tell you, but just calling him "mentally unstable" feels lacking in empathy and nuance. Someone in that writers room had first hand experience with these conditions, because Bob felt like a fairly accurate depiction of someone with poor mental health/unmanaged disabilities. A lot of his mannerisms came across as uncomfortable or unsure despite what he was saying. He overshares quite a bit with people he barely knows. He actually feels quite grounded when you strip away the super powers.
I liked that they didn't make Yelena and Bob and romantic pairing. It's so exhausting to me when they do that in films, so I'm always pleased when it looks like it could go that way, but doesn't. Neither of them are well enough to be in a committed relationship, ESPECIALLY Bob. They've only just found themselves a support system, and that's plenty worthwhile.
Okay, I'm going to move onto the negatives of this film, but I'm going to try to find a way to end this post on a light-hearted note. Stay with me now.
Why was Taskmaster in the promotional material only to be killed off in the first like 10 minutes of the film? What a waste of a character. I heard that it was to establish that this was going to be a darker film than what we're used to but that just screams poor writing to me. Yelena's opening monologue does that job. The rest of the film too. I think I feel especially peeved on behalf of the actress.
Why was Ghost here? We haven't seen her since like, 2016 in an Antman film. How did she end up here? I thought she was cured of her horrifically painful shifting powers, and even if she was only stablised rather than cured, what spurred her to keep ripping herself apart over and over again? I don't want to guess, I want to get to know her on a deeper level now that she's a more significant character in the franchise.
WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN BOB GETTING HIS SERUM AND HIM ENDING UP IN THE VAULT!? HOW DID HE FLY UNDER THE RADAR FOR SO LONG? HOW LONG EVEN WAS THE TIME BETWEEN THESE EVENTS?
These questions may have been answered within the film and I may sound silly right now. However, I think the answers, if present, were very poorly delivered for me to be this confused.
John Walker is here. Okay. Um, I don't know what to say, I give zero shits about this guy. I'm not being passive agressive, I just don't find him very interesting.
Why is Bucky a politician? That's the least charasmatic man I've ever seen. He's too old for this. He seemed to be doing so much better while he was hanging out with Sam and fixing the boat. Doing non-assassin stuff and building more of a life for himself outside the cycle of violence. Only, according to the end credits scene, he's not on great terms with Sam anymore because of copyright disputes? What? They were such a positive influence on each other! Sam helped give Bucky focus beyond his shadowy past and Bucky was the catalyst that finally got Sam to pick up The Shield.
Also, this is probably just me but in the end credits scene Bucky looked so much like Matt Berry I genuinely find it hard to take seriously. He looks SO ridiculous and that's because of my associations with Matt Berry, not because the style looks bad or anything. I guess he just resembles a well-known British comedian now.
So, in summary then... (Even though I think I still have more in the tank but this post is very long). Thematically, this film is pretty excellent and I really enjoyed those aspects. Narratively, this film is a mess and doesn't balance its screen time with each character. I just have so many questions about Ghost and that bizarre choice with Taskmaster. I'd like to see the team develop further, they've not had enough time to marinade for me to consider them a found family dynamic or anything yet. This film evens out to sit in the middle ground and considering where Marvel has been recently, I'll take it.