Narc Rants

The Void System (Void) Void/He/It NPD + ASPD traits Agender Aronarc Placiosexual Aplatonic

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This is a blog space for our system to drop rants and other content related to our NPD.

We are an adult, therefore we will talk about adult things here.

There is no DNI list. Just be decent and respectful.

ABOUT US

System Name: The Void System

Name: Void

Pronouns: Void/It/He

Age: Adult

• DID system

• Narcissistic Personality Disorder

• Antisocial Personality Disorder traits

• Autistic

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Where’s @funnier-with-narcpd bc I’m gonna start doing this

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How people see me when they first meet me and I say “I’m not able to fall in love with anyone”

How people see me 6 months into a relationship once they realize I was being serious and I’m not “fixable”

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NPD / ASPD / SzPD

A flag for those with NPD, ASPD, and SzPD, including those who just have traits of one or all

Colors taken from NPD and ASPD flags on the SzPD flag base

Alt flag:

For those whose SzPD is the most prominent, such as those who have SzPD with NPD traits and ASPD traits, but can be used by anyone with all three/all three traits

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As a teacher,

teacher appreciation week = narc supply week!

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Happy Aplatonic Day of Visibility!

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Why make friends when you could make money

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New headcanon!

Morgan from Big Mistakes has ASPD + ADHD

- impulsiveness and aggressiveness

- low empathy and high apathy

- enjoys breaking laws and doing substances

- prone to extreme boredom

- compulsively lies

- doesn’t get along well with anyone

- super cunty /pos

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What stereotypes should be avoided with NPD?

I’m gonna assume you’re talking about writing a character so tell me if I’m wrong lol. Even if you’re not talking about writing, this may be a helpful resource for people

What to avoid:

1. The handsome rich white cishet man trope. It’s so boring, this trope is overused and typically ableist. Not all people with NPD look perfect and have everything they want. People with NPD who are just spoiled and privileged are much rarer than those who endured some kind of childhood abuse or trauma. It’s also okay to make your character with NPD a woman, a poc, queer, trans, physically disabled, etc. As long as your person with NPD isn’t the ONLY woman, poc, queer person, etc in your story. Gregory House is a canonically narcissistic character and he may be a cis, (questionably) hetero, white man but at least he’s not perfectly handsome, super rich, dressed in fancy clothes, or able-bodied.

2. The only interesting thing about them is their anger issues, their music taste, or their vice. Give them a real personality. Being angry, liking a specific kind of music, or smoking or drinking a lot a lot are not interesting personality traits on their own, they’re just facets of a person. Dive deep into their childhood, their relationship with their family and friends, their exes, their quirks and mannerisms, their vocabulary or manner of speech, what kind of clothing they wear and how messy or organized their space is and WHY they dress that way or set up their space like that.

3. NPD = abusive bad guy. Non NPD = innocent victim. I’ll say this a million times: people with NPD are most typically victims of childhood abuse and that doesn’t just end after childhood. They can be abused or taken advantage of as adults too. All people with NPD have vulnerability and insecurity, whether it’s on the surface or buried. People with covert vulnerable NPD especially may even seek out or endure abusive relationships for supply. A person with NPD may hurt the feelings of people around them or come off as callous, but that doesn’t mean they’re violent or cruel. They’re capable of change, remorse, and love. Try to demonstrate their positive attributes as well, not just hyper focus on their shortcomings. Make sure other characters without NPD also have shortcomings too, not just the disordered character(s). No one is perfect, even people without NPD are selfish and egoistic.

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im so jelousy, I envy that they have people, that they choose them, and that when I do something they don't like, they don't tell me and start giving me "no contact". I'm just so jealous I even want to attack them. I feel attacked. I just wanted them to give me their full attention when they're talking to me. I just want them to choose to talk to me. I'm not a bad person, but they always end up treating me like I am. I really hate that they can't communicate, because I promise I'm trying to change. I'm trying to get into therapy. I don't want to hurt them; I just want to be their friend. I want to be special to them, and I want people to see me and admire me instead of just hating me. They've started rumors saying that i'm dangerous, i'm just so mad.

I’m gonna give you some genuine advice here, so if you don’t want advice, you don’t have to read my response

This advice applies to other people in similar situations too

If someone sees you as dangerous or bad or continually cuts you off, your friendship is already soured. Even though you want their attention and affection still, they’ve already put you in a negative box. There really is no point in playing the “I’m not a bad guy” game with people, it’s just going to wear you down and make you feel angry and unwanted. Even though you want to come back from this, I believe you would have to become a saint in order to appeal to someone who already thinks you’re bad. You’ll never be happy in a relationship where you constantly get rejected

You need to redirect your energy to finding people who actually like you as you are. Even though you’re still attached, you continually fighting for their forgiveness or acceptance is just going to make both you and them more unhappy. That kind of dynamic leads to endless amounts of resentment

There will be other people out there who communicate with you better and understand that you have different needs or ways of expressing yourself. Don’t give all your time and energy to people who don’t want or deserve it, you should be with friends who respect you

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rant but i hate how people try to break me and stuff just because i have npd. it's not fun, quriky or sassy it's just so ableist. Just because i sometimes lie because i want attention, i don't get why it's okay to push someone to a breaking point just because they have npd. i swear to god they are okay with saying npd abuse but loose their shit if you say it sounds as stupid as ocpd abuse. they act like someone gets npd from nowhere.

At this point, “narc abuse” should be a term for people who abuse pwNPD. The amount of content out there that’s all about “how to destroy a narc” “how to manipulate a narc” “how to make a narcissist hate themself” “how to make a narc obey you” is actually insane. We’re not toys or demonic entities

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I feel like a selfish little prince every birthday because I have people who I haven’t responded to in YEARS who still text me happy birthday every year. From middle school, high school, people who I barely even knew back then. I have no idea why they still text me even though I don’t respond, I don’t know any of their birthdays

One of them texted me today to ask if I they should check obituaries to see if I’m dead. Girl😭

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I changed my mind, all hate will not be deleted. I’m argumentative and I love it

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Fuck this “enemies to lovers” bullshit

Give me more enemies AND lovers

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I agree that the current research points to overt/grandiose and covert/vulnerable being inseperable terms. But I think there's also a good amount of information that suggests someone with NPD can shift in presentation as well as internal experience- hence how frequently it can be misdiagnosed as a mood disorder, grandiosity and vulnerability can present like mania and depression, usually to a lesser degree. As well as this, from my experience and what I notice in almost anyone I've spoken to with NPD, it's absolutely common to have traits of both 'covert' and 'overt' presentations.

I get your perspective and I think you're right in the fact someone is primarily one or the other. But I think the research is severely lacking and the disorder is extremely misunderstood, to the point the current understanding is significantly oversimplified. So I do think it's possible not to fall super nearly into one of two categories, since I can't just completely overwrite all of the experience I've had or noticed in others.

I'm not the previous anon, but I find this topic really interesting so I wanted to weigh in.

I never said someone is primarily one or the other. Just because they’re presentation terms doesn’t mean everyone fits into one or the other. My only point was that covert/vulnerable and overt/grandiose are the two empirical categories and the terms mean the same thing, not that everyone fits into one of the two

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All hate will be deleted.’

Yeah, right. Until you start hating on victims of narcissistic abuse. You hate the ones speaking the truth! You’re trying to delete the light and the truth. Narcs will never win, this system is a loser for eternity. Making a blog for predators makes zero sense… what the fvck. Narcissism promotes confusion. Great job

Victims of abuse should have the sense to blame the person instead of self diagnosing someone else with a disorder they aren’t qualified to diagnose. I was abused my entire childhood and I don’t go around calling all people with BPD evil just because I was raped by someone with it. I don’t claim that bipolar makes someone full of darkness just because I was groomed by someone with it

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Stop blaspheming God

I have sex with Satan on the daily and I love it

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do you think people with NPD or ASPD still owe other people “human decency” (i.e. faking empathy if you don’t have it, listening to people rant and vent to you, etc)?

as a person with NPD myself, I find this question important and convoluted. Because on the one hand, nobody should be allowed to get away with murder or rape or anything like that, regardless of why you did it. But on the other hand, smaller masking like pretending to care about someone who’s hurt when you don’t is also bad for you as a person

But people not only expect but often NEED at least the semblance of people caring for them, which makes it hard when “unmasking” is both good for you but also has the potential to hurt others. I have NPD but I still want friends, so I hug them when they’re sad and give them advice etc, because I like them being around me and know if I’m mean they’ll leave. But sometimes I just don’t have the mental capacity to pretend to care. If I’m in a really bad mood or something

so tldr. Do you think pwNPD or ASPD always, sometimes, or never owe it to their friends to fake empathy if they don’t have it? Is it different with strangers than friends? Why?

I think all people should try to hold some semblance of respect for others. But I don’t think people with low empathy should have to perform all conventional social gestures. There’s a fine line between being mean and being honest. If someone’s cat died and you don’t have the energy to pretend to care, you don’t need to put a ton of effort into comforting them. But that doesn’t mean you should say smth like “you’re pathetic, stop crying about it”.

What you do need to consider is reciprocal energy. If you constantly vent to someone and you never let them vent to you, you’ve created an unequal power dynamic that isn’t healthy, which may cause the other person to feel upset or resentful. Now, maybe this person always listens to you vent but you always give them great gifts or take them out to fun places. Now you have reciprocal energy because you both express your affection in a different way. This kind of plays into the concept of “love languages”, which I believe can be anything. I don’t think you should be forced to try to have reciprocal energy, but your relationships and friendships may fail if you’re unable to reciprocate in some fashion that works for you. Unequal dynamics typically don’t last long, even if they FEEL good to people with low empathy, high ego disorders. Some people don’t mind not having reciprocal energy, or even enjoy being the one to give while you receive. But keep in mind not all people are like that.

To sum it up, you can do whatever you want. But some people may have needs they want met and if you’re unable to meet them, they may not have an interest in being close to you. It’s important to be clear upfront about your limitations so you can meet the right people who accept you as you are