Ok, thank you for getting back to me. I appreciate the response. However, you’re still making mistakes, and misunderstanding me. Perhaps that is at least a little bit of my own fault. Words may be my playground but each person has their own connotations that I’m not so bold as to claim I can adhere to.
So firstly, give me a full retort, not some abridged version. There’s all the time in the world to have this argument heard. I wouldn’t like to cause more misunderstanding between us due to a lackluster argument.
Anyway, onto the actual argument at hand.
“You think sexuality gives a shit what kind of world you live in?“
No. That is not what I said at all. The quote you highlighted above this statement makes no such claims. Here, I’ll attempt to clear up your misunderstanding for you. The quote you highlighted starts talking about being a teenager going through trying to understand your sexuality. Trying to make sense of it. Something that people can go through regardless of sexuality. But it takes into account the fact that these aren’t your everyday teenagers. They are warriors as well. They have signed up to fight for their life. The stress of which certainly wouldn’t help when you’re trying to figure out who you are. LGBT+ being a minority also adds stress to this, so when I mentioned Remnant, it isn’t to ask sexuality if it cares that these characters are in Remnant. It was to say “Maybe Remnant has a LGBT+ minority, which i adding to why these teenagers aren’t ready to come out yet”.
“You think sexuality gives a shit when you’re ready to develop feelings?”
Again, you’ve yet again misunderstood, so I’ll continue spelling it out. Ruby is still a kid. She isn’t emotionally developed enough for relationships, be they lesbian, bisexual or heterosexual. Ruby’s innocence, her child-like innocence has been heavily leaned on. Sexuality doesn’t get a say yet. It will once she begins to grow enough for sexuality to become something she can begin to understand. So, to answer your question: Sexuality doesn’t come into it for Ruby, as it isn’t something that is running through her mind at the moment.
“Lol, as if Yang hasn’t been taking strides to make her relationship with her canoncial “partner for the next four years” Blake Belladonna a better, more healthy one. Okay”
I have said that I do like the Bumbleby ship. My problem with it is that the Bumbleby shippers haven’t been respectful to other members of the FNDM and thus have forfeited being represented in the show. Yes, you are correct in that Yang has taken strides to make her relationship with her canonical “partner for the next four years” Blake Belladonna a better, more healthy one. But that relationship thus far has been a friendship, not a romantic one. Sun was proactive in becoming Blake’s romantic partner. I notice you also highlighted my little bit about Yang going with the flow. Your argument didn’t actually address this, so I’ll assume that was something you cut out of your abbreviated version of your argument.
“Also…holy shit. Did you legit just question whether or not Nora has feelings for Ren? Holy shit. Her feelings for Ren are so blatantly telegraphed in the series that she even has a song about it on the second soundtrack, called “Boop”. Literally all about her feelings for Ren., and how she’s in love with him. Holy shit. It’s plenty evident you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.”
Yea, I really like Boop, listen to it all the time. But it isn’t implemented in the story. It’s a song that exists outwith the characters, but about them. Yes, it is very clear that Nora cares for Ren, however she might not actually see him as a romantic partner going by what we have seen in the show. You see, there can be thousands of songs written for the series about a ship, it still won’t make it real for those characters. It has to be implemented in the story, with interactions between the characters. Going by the show, Nora could see him more as a family member. Which was my point when I said “whether or not she likes him”.
“It’s amazing how, after all your heroic effects at trying to end Homophobia in a not at all homophobic “the people who are calling out LGBT folks are wrong and the LGBT people are petty for wanting representation and we need to think of each other” way, you find the time to tone police. Truly a modern miracle, you are. How do you do it? :)”
I question your comprehension once more. Perhaps you glossed over that part. That quote you highlighted, that whole paragraph has nothing to do with LGBT+ nor homophobia. Why would it? And in what way am I saying that LGBT+ folk are wrong? Well, I can’t really argue against a nonsensical retort, so I’ll explain that paragraph for you, as that should clear things up.
So, I started off letting you know that this last section is something I say whenever I’m writing to the FNDM, regardless of whether its about representation, Shane’s open letter, or ships. I then reach out, with hope that those reading will see that this FNDM is more than ships, its more than viewers, its more than your opinions. This FNDM is the congregation of people (heard that word before? People? You know, just like you are a person with a heartbeat and a mind and with feelings that can be hurt, so are the rest of us in this FNDM.) who are tied together through the story that Monty started to tell.
You should take my next sentence and think over it a bit: That does come with the responsibility of looking after the FNDM and those within it. That means regardless of whether they agree with your point of view. Regardless of sexuality, regardless of who they ship, regardless. Calling members of the FNDM irrelevant, belittling those who argue against you, is not what Monty would have wanted to see in this FNDM. This is what I mean when I say bring the FNDM together, don’t pull it apart. We are all here because we like RWBY. Because we want to see these characters. Because we care about them. That is everyone in the FNDM, not just those who agree with you, not just those who ship the same ships as you, but everyone. Calling members of the FNDM irrelevant lowers you and your argument when you are trying to fight for representation. The Bumbleby ship does not deserve to be represented in the show as there are many Bumbleby shippers who attack the majority of ships that include either Yang or Blake but not both. The FNDM should be a safe place for everyone who came here to appreciate RWBY. If you disagree with that, perhaps you should take some time to reflect and explore why you feel the way you do, and perhaps you should try to get to know Monty through what is left of his presence to figure out if Monty would take your side.
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