i’ve seen a couple of takes like this now and i think the framing is a bit odd. whether or not magical girl anime is any less popular than shounen, the issue is one of sexism & misogyny, which i think is what op is trying to get at, not empathy / ability to ‘emotionally connect.’ like i think what you’re talking about is ppl failing to see girls and women as equally worthy narrative subjects with interiority and struggles. plus i don’t think people enjoy shounen because they ‘emotionally connect’ with the characters, necessarily. that may be part of it, sure, but shounen is enjoyable bc of the storytelling. just like magical girl anime. hello
edit: the issue is one of empathy in the sense that we see some subjects as inherently more worthy/interesting than others. what i’m trying to get at is that this is a political issue, not just an emotional one
been thinking about the tragedy that would follow if apple kept on repressing her feelings and married some prince instead of her true love so um. sorry
i got tagged in this, presumably because the person wanted me to debunk it so here we go. (warning long post mostly because of the pictures, putting a break so as to not clog up y’all’s dashes)
the ic’s help for nesta was giving her an ultimatum of going to the house of wind or deportation to the human lands.
mind you, the former is also an isolation with a man she has verbally and physically made clear she wants away from her
“it’s not up for negotiation” again, the ruling power is forcing a war refugee to “choose” between being stuck in a house that would be gruesome to escape from, primarily with a man she wants to be away from and secondarily with another man who’s just as culpable in her imprisonment, and deportation to lands where they know she will be ostracized, subjected to prejudice, friendless, and practically housebound.
furthermore, amren lied about the rules of the night court when nesta rightfully brought up the fact that they were legally not allowed to do this. for all stans like to claim this was just like judge-appointed rehab, within that same modern context, lying about the law to force someone into “rehab” (mind you, through an intervention that had not a single medical professional involved), IS A CRIME
in contrast, nesta’s help for the women in the library was… pinning up a sign-up sheet.
yes, she intentionally practiced in the library, even after clotho asked her not to because it was distracting the priestesses who watched her
however, that was part of her plan to bring cassian down so the priestess could safely see how he trained her given their past terrible experiences with men.
also, there are seven whole chapters between when she puts the sheet up and when gwyn signs up. seven.
and then an additional five chapters when roslin, ananke, and deirdre show up in chapter 29.
ilana and lorelei join in chapter 38.
also note, nesta was going to give up and take down the sheet after her demonstration with cassian because it was her last resort. she still hadn’t physically bothered any of the priestesses, or initiated any unwanted contact.
additionally, clotho, herself, was happy when gwyn signed up.
so let’s review
the ic: forced nesta out of her safe space and demolished it, gave her a hosbon’s choice of training or deportation, and lied to her about their laws to bypass the illegality of their ultimatum
nesta: pinned up a sign-up sheet (which is by definition is voluntary), never physically bothered any of the priestesses or pestered them into signing up, and found a way to assuage any fears about a man training them without directly putting them in his way.
there is also a difference in time. the ic gave nesta no time to make her “decision.” she was forced into beginning her training the same day she got the ultimatum. in contrast, the time between when nesta put up the sheet, and when all the known valkyries from the library left the library to train is 21 chapters.
overall, i genuinely don’t think that anyone making this argument actually believes it, because it’s such a gross intentional misunderstanding of how the neo-valkyries came together, and stripping gwyn, roslin, deirdre, ananke, ilana, and lorelei of their personal choice to leave the library.
i'd never criticize eah again if they made snow be the one to poison apple. the original fairytale had a stepmother poisoning her daughter, why not just make it the mother? snow being desperate to enshre her family's legacy that she'll poison her own daughter to it
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