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There are some official works and fans who make the Naberries out to have working/middle class origins. That's often done to give Padme a "down-to-earth"/"the sensible one in the senate" quality,and to set her apart from the corrupt elite.
While I can't really see Padme as having a relatively underprivileged background,this read would've been way more interesting if she isn't immune to some of the same biases and prejudices - plus,a heap of her own ones.
I used to dislike the idea of middle-class-by-origin Padme,but your reads on her make it interesting,IMO. If she's going to have a comfortable but "lesser" upbringing,actually address class issues. Let her have hidden complexes about it! Show the subtle discrimination she's been through!
youve given me a lot to chew on anon, thank you!
i've been trying very hard to pinpoint for myself why exactly padme's sensible personality doesn't click for me if it's entirely class related, not gonna lie. i think i like her to be middle class because i feel the middle class experience is to be somewhere in between two very different existences. on one hand, you're very aware of how much worse people have it and it's close enough that it's personal. but on the other hand, it's still very much a life of relative comfort. i dont know what is it with social mobility in this setting because the senate in star wars is very much populated entirely by the elites. even bail organa (one of the top tier good guys) is royalty for example and i kind of enjoy how being confined (by her career) to this social circle is what fuels padme's isolation and her choices. she's kind of one of them, kind of isn't and the whole time she's trying her best to serve the (common) people that her work is increasingly pulling away from. i feel like padme either being born into nobility or born in the working class would give her a stronger connection to a specific economic class which is a fair thing to headcanon but i personally happen prefer a version of padme that wants strong connections but is made to be alienated from everything that could give them to her, including a proper sense of class solidarity. she's got her ideals and she's sticking to them but she's spent her life essentially negotiating between the over-privileged and the under-privileged (because one of padme's principles was still trying to make the system work) which required her to be more of a conduit and less of a person. its a deeply middle class experience imo and thats #myhill
its all very interesting though because padme's political career started with humanitarian action. the story she tells in aotc about those dead children is the backbone of her politics and i think its also fair to mention that she was young and it must have been traumatising to experience it. but at the same time, we do get that dinner scene in tpm where she can't really wrap her mind around slavery on tatooine. i feel like those two things can co-exist because it has less to do with padme herself and more with how the republic does not encourage its citizens to be aware of whats happening outside of the republic. even padme is subjected to that, because she's still a citizen, she cant just absorb the life experience of every single being simply because she has good intentions. and aside from that, her life's mission is to address the problems within the republic and make it work for the people the way it should, which is an important mission because the eventual empire proves how much damage an institution like the republic is capable of causing.
the really fun ambiguity with padme starts regarding how she'd approach problems outside of the system - is reforming the republic the first step of her ideal for a better future or is that the whole project and the rest is supposed to click into place? there's a big question of intervention or non-intervention in her politics i feel should be fun to explore, especially given she married mr anakin "well if you can't cajole people into behaving nicely & upholding justice, you should do it by force" skywalker which i think starts having Implications once the entity enforcing galacting justice is a political superpower. unlike anakin, i feel like padme would be aware of that but then what's her vision?? like mrs amidala PLEASE say something about your external policies, the masses need to know. i suppose you could connect those beliefs with privilege or the lack of it, but here's the thing, privilege affects your ability to spot a problem that affects other people & sometimes your interest in fixing it, it does not (from my point of view) really affect how good you are with coming up with working solutions. you can have total awareness but you also need the skill to translate that into policies that work & to the horror of activist groups everywhere good intentions alone don't mean you're automatically the right person to take charge. you can be, if you're good at that sort of thing but you can have personal experience with all the horrors of life and still not have a single clue how youd address them on a large scale. pointing out faults & fixing them are not necessarily skills that come hand in hand, basically. going into an average facebook comment section is a big proof of that lol i enjoy talking about padme's politics and speculating about them but i think she had strong and weak points at her work outside of her position on economic ladder, im wary of saying that the class she was born into in any way improved or restricted her ability to do good. im interested in how class affects padme-the-person, basically, because class does inform our anxieties and preoccupations by a lot but politically she has such a sensitive role as the mother of rebellion, i want to avoid generalisations (saying this very off handedly & not as a criticism to you, anon. you've given me some very interesting things to think about and im just sort of branching off of them)
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vader at padme’s grave
sabe voice: real classy. my queen’s tomb and you’re aura farming
theyll say “she lived she served cunt and she died” about anyone but no one did it like padmé amidala
always funny to remember darth vader is anakin skywalker. the adrenaline junkie chucklefuck who used to dive head first out of speeders and built a pod racer in his yard when he was like six is now upper-middle management for the evil empire. half of his appearances in the original trilogy are Meetings. vader spends like 80% of his time dealing with bureaucratic bullshit. status updates. team meetings. holo-Zooms. budget rundowns. anakin betrayed the jedi and caused the fall of the republic and his punishment is being CC'd on every email forever. and you know what. he would hate that. the punishment fits the criminal
so many people overlook this detail in revenge of the sith but i think it's actually very thematically important!!
god but imagine being the day manager of that mustafarian lava factory. walk into work one day your computers are all fucked up, half of your rig is gone and one room is just full of dead bodies
i work closely with organisations focused on handicap theory & disability advocation so im always on my soapbox about this lately but i feel like overall i think everyone would benefit from a framework splitting the disability community in two groups. there are disabled people who are infantilized and institutionalised for their disabilities, in which case the discrimination against them is based on being told they can't do anything and locked away from society, autonomy & any life worth living, really. for them, empowerment is being shown they can do things and maintain independence, even if it's with assistance and aids. then there are also disabled people with invisible or stigmatised disabilities who are discriminated against by being told they're making it up, via medial neglect and lack of accommodation and for them, empowerment is in embracing that yeah, there are certain things they can't do and that there's nothing wrong with that. but both groups are disabled and both have the right to their experience of being hurt by the ableism in the system & as long as we continue to speak as if there's only one universal perspective the disabled community might have we will not get anywhere with advocacy
my organisation has an anti institutionalisation mission so we mostly work with group one. that's mostly people with celebral palsy, down syndrome, als & various muscular distrophies & stroke, encephalitis and accident survivors, who often need support to be able to maintain the kind of active lifestyles they want in order to be fulfilled. "you need to accept that too disabled for this" is a harmful rhetoric for them because its very commonly coming from relatives or healthcare professionals who'd much rather put them in an institution or forcibly lock them in a passive lifestyle behind four walls than extend energy offering assistance every single day. and like, i get it. if your disabled uncle takes 1 hour putting away dishes and needs a nap after and you can do it in 5 minutes you feel youre being genuinely helpful and pragmatic by doing it for him, but it needs to be his choice and the real trick is in making sure its an informed choice. you see so many sad cases of people mistreating their disabled children by teaching them theyre helpless and that they need to stay reliant on their caregivers, which isnt to the benefit of the disabled individual at all. its either in making them more passive (easier to care for since they need less help if they dont even attempt to do anything) or simply for the caretaker's ego, but its abuse and its awful. you cannot systematically deprive someone of all activity and call that help. and then it sometimes kills to go on tumblr dot com and see posts generalising how to fight ableism purely from the perspective of group number two. it's still a valid perspective, but it ends up being frustrating if it claims to speak for everyone but having the same blind spots for people with different experiences it berates abled people for having. activists with limited perspective arent anywhere near the top of the most harmful sources of strife for disabled community of course but i think it's still a very needless thing and that there'd be collective benefit in people being more informed about disabilities that are discriminated against in a different way than their own
i work closely with organisations focused on handicap theory & disability advocation so im always on my soapbox about this lately but i feel like overall i think everyone would benefit from a framework splitting the disability community in two groups. there are disabled people who are infantilized and institutionalised for their disabilities, in which case the discrimination against them is based on being told they can't do anything and locked away from society, autonomy & any life worth living, really. for them, empowerment is being shown they can do things and maintain independence, even if it's with assistance and aids. then there are also disabled people with invisible or stigmatised disabilities who are discriminated against by being told they're making it up, via medial neglect and lack of accommodation and for them, empowerment is in embracing that yeah, there are certain things they can't do and that there's nothing wrong with that. but both groups are disabled and both have the right to their experience of being hurt by the ableism in the system & as long as we continue to speak as if there's only one universal perspective the disabled community might have we will not get anywhere with advocacy
truly wonderful to see people call anakin "disability coded" when he is very very explicitely disabled. like i get what you mean. but he is actually disabled. he doesn't have an arm. why do people forget he doesn't have an arm. honestly it's a shame how his physical disability isn't really considered in fandom conversations around him. that's also why I really fw brotherhood and the wild space novel. they finally give some insight as to how he felt about losing a limb, and also what that meant for him considering possible negative jedi views about having a mechanical arm and a bit on how he recovered. I can't speak for people with that kind of disability but I wish that anakin's mechanical arm wasn't just treated in a "oh! too bad he lost an arm! well he can just get an exactly identical one except now he wears a cool glove and nothing else changed!" way cause it definitely did impact his character a lot. same for luke in many ways. I get where people are coming from and I don't mean this maliciously at all but also they ARE disabled people forget that a lot.
this comment being about tcw just makes everything better
i do think it’s funny when you’ve been into a thing long enough that you’ve done all the serious analysis you can do so now you’re mostly just thinking up looney tunes scenarios to put the characters in
looney tunes scenarios which are most importantly still impeccably in-character because of all the aforementioned serious analysis
it’s almost funny that star wars discourse on this site is ruled by people who treat the jedi like a real endangered religion that needs to be protected like it’s almost enjoyable unfortunately the day to day experience is having to mass block people writing essays on why the only good modern star wars is young jedi adventures
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rest in peace marcia lucas </3, seen here with her oscar for editing the first star wars. her contributions to the film include putting the iconic trench run together and killing obi-wan kenobi. she was referred to as george lucas’ “secret weapon.” she also worked with martin scorsese. you can learn more about her here, here and in dale pollack’s skywalking
sometimes the attempt to correct marcia’s erasure gets a little wrongfooted, like ignoring there were other editors working on star wars. but it remains true that she was a big part of the creative process, and she was overlooked for years because of her gender
the thing about padmé going looking for anakin on mustafar is that you would literally do the same thing too if it was someone you loved
ugh how the fuck do you cover letter
Greetings, Exalted One. Allow me to introduce myself. I am Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight and friend to Captain Solo.
I know that you are powerful, mighty Jabba, and that your anger with Solo must be equally powerful. I seek an audience with Your Greatness to bargain for Solo’s life.
With your wisdom, I’m sure that we can work out an arrangement which will be mutually beneficial and enable us to avoid any unpleasant confrontation.
As a token of my goodwill, I present to you a gift: these two droids. Both are hardworking and will serve you well.
Polite greeting (Greetings, Exalted One)
Self-Introduction (I am Luke Skywalker)
Establish Credentials (Jedi Knight)
Explain how you learned of this opportunity (Friend to Captain Solo)
Establish Purpose (I seek an audience with Your Greatness to bargain for Solo’s life.)
Show what you can bring to the organization ( I present to you a gift: these two droids. Both are hardworking and will serve you well.)