Alright, @anti-anti-survivor, I do apologize for taking so long. Some personal shit went down right around the time you wrote, so I couldn’t respond. But here goes.
I said you antis, meaning the community. This is not an attack on you personally, this is an attack on the community you are a part of. You seem awfully defensive when the statement was not directed as a personal attack at you and in fact the WHOLE POST isn’t directed as a personal attack at you...
I’ll get to this in a second. It’s copied and pasted here for a reason.
If literally everything impacts real people, absolutely everything, I stand by my point that there is MUCH more productive things that you could do combatting something that has an impact on real life. You’ve acknowledged that LITERALLY ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING has an impact on real people, consider this. ANTI SHIPPING CRUSADES HAVE AN IMPACT ON REAL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY ABUSE SURVIVORS WHO SHIP.
Listen, pal, many antis (not all, and I recognize that), understand that shipping to cope is a valid thing, and technically I have never addressed this on this blog or any of my other anti blogs, so I will do so here. Here is my stance on shipping to cope:
I am fully supportive of any survivors who ship to cope. HOWEVER, I DO NOT support survivors posting their coping ships on a public platform where other survivors who will be triggered or harmed, can see it.
I like to call this “coping courteously.” I can’t stop anyone from doing what they do to cope, but it is NOT appropriate to do that somewhere like Tumblr, where kids and other survivors can see it.
Recreating the circumstances of your abuse is a valid therapeutic method of confronting and eventually coming to terms with your abuse. It’s effective. It’s a technique known as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. I used it to help me get my intense paranoia and phobia of interaction with people outside my family out of control after my years of institutional abuse.
Dude I know what CBT is. I went through its cousin, DBT, multiple times. And I’m aware that it’s effective. But again, coping courteously. Tumblr is not your therapist. It’s a public platform full of children and other survivors.
And on that subject—for ANY therapy to work, it has to be CONSENSUAL. Posting abusive ships on Tumblr and saying “exposure is a valid form of therapy” implies that you are unilaterally giving yourself the right to act as the exposure therapist for people you don’t know, without necessarily having any sort of credential, and those people did not give you their consent to do so, and that is fucking gross.
You know what might make abuse survivor shippers uncomfortable with being able to talk about their abuse? Being compared to ABUSERS by antis. Just because you met a shipper abuse victim who was abusive (not too sure on that either, considering I’m not gonna blindly take your word on things), doesn’t mean they’re all abusers. Before ‘well you know they don’t need to ship to do that!’ here’s another quote from the study.
“In addition, it could help to have the child create their own book with chapters describing the sexual abuse and it’s related events. The book could be drawn or written, poetic or prose. The choice to express the story how they would like gives the child a sense of control of the therapeutic process without allowing them to avoid it all together. Furthermore, the method of communication does not matter so long as the information is relayed in a cohesive and thorough manner.”
This paper examines CBA to treat csa abuse in younger children. You know what drawn or written depictions of their own abuse could look like in older teenagers? maybe FANFICTION AND FANART. SHIPPING. HMMM. Here’s the academic paper for a source and another source from the government about the efficacy of CBA in general, since your response was profoundly lacking in sources.
I do have proof of that person’s abuse, but I’m not going to leak it because I don’t want the victim to be hurt further. And as for the quote and following analysis, once again, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PLAY THE CBA THERAPIST. If a teenager or anyone else wants to draw fanfic, fanart, whatever to cope, THAT IS FINE. But y’all do NOT have the right to post it where folks who are going to be hurt further by it, to see it. Keep your therapy to yourselves.
And as for lacking in sources, I gave you plenty of sources in the original rebuttal, where they were actually needed.
Speaking of sources, if you actually did all of the things you claim to in your post, I commend you heartily. However I would like to see definitive proof before I take you at your word. I have no idea who you are, you could have pulled that out of your ass.
Dude, you are shitting me, right? “Definitive proof” would involve disclosing my full name and location to someone who has publicly stated that they’re an adult, and I’m not going to do that. I don’t really give a shit if you believe me, although it is a little bit creepy that you, a self-declared adult, want me, a minor, to give you personal information....
Pal, that US law is being brought under scrutiny of the Supreme Court just because of the absurdity of equating real children with fictional minors and children. It’s not even proved that representation of fictional minors has any effect on whether or not pedophiles offend. A quote from a goddamn court case about it.
In Free Speech Coalition v. Reno {513 U.S. 64, 78} (later Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition), the court held that “[f]actual studies that establish the link between computer-generated child pornography and the subsequent sexual abuse of children apparently do not yet exist."
Link to the court case. Oh look, another source! And, yanno, actual US Law.
Again, are you shitting me? Pal, just because something goes before SCOTUS doesn’t mean shit. Segregation went before SCOTUS back in Plessy v. Ferguson, and they said separate but equal. The Supreme Court is incredibly important, but it’s inherently imperfect, and at the end of the day is swayed by the fact that each justice is appointed by a President, as well as whatever societal prejudices and biases exist at the time. And right now, there are multiple seats that could/will be controlled by Donald Trump, who’s undoubtedly a sexual predator. Right now, federal law is absolutely irrelevant when it comes to morality, because nobody making the laws has any morals.
DO NOT CALL ME A WHITE CISHET WOMAN. I’m not het, for one thing. I’m bisexual. It says so right there in my blog intro. I’m also intersex, thanks to the one ovoteste I have who thought it was a good idea to be making testosterone and other male hormones as opposed to estrogen and female hormones. It was luck of the fucking draw my external genitalia met that magical medical norm of female, or I might have even worse problems to worry about than just genital dysphoria. I am white, but what does this have to do with being white? Also, ALMOST NONE OF THE ANTI-ANTIS who ship that I count as friends are cishet and some of them aren’t white either. So fuck off with that rhetoric too.
Also, did you know I don’t actually participate in fandom on tumblr? I made this blog when an anti implied that me being a survivor of cs-goddamn-a would have been better because otherwise I’m problematic.Sexual abuse is the only abuse I haven’t suffered. But they’re not a “Real anti” because that behaviour is problematic.
I think this is when we bring back that part from the beginning...
I said you antis, meaning the community. This is not an attack on you personally, this is an attack on the community you are a part of. You seem awfully defensive when the statement was not directed as a personal attack at you and in fact the WHOLE POST isn’t directed as a personal attack at you...
You seem awfully defensive yourself, my pal....
And at this point I’m fucking done, so I’m gonna block you tomorrow. I’ll give you enough time to read this, but don’t bother responding. I’ve had enough.