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Hey everyone! We can't wait to see your hot takes that are inclusive of all systems and plurals. We're sick of anti-endos excluding folks that aren't hateful like them.
So the ask box is open, send them on in.
Anti-endos fuck off, your shit will be deleted on sight. We can't stand y'all.
Radqueers, stay the hell away from this blog. You all are a mockery of the LGBTQIA community and support harmful things. We don't like any of you.
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There is actually no legitimate reason to be against the concept of endogenic systems. There may be reasons to be critical of endogenic communities, but there is simply no reason to oppose the very concept of a system forming without trauma.
It's extremely telling that the only "arguments" I have seen against endogenic systems are:
1. Appealing to ignorance by saying the lack of current scientific evidence for endogenic systems must mean endogenic systems don't exist, when in reality it only means there is a lack of conclusive proof either way.
2. Arguing that endogenic systems are inherently and intrinsically ableist for simply existing
3. Hatred borne out of personal suffering being displaced onto those who do not suffer or do not appear to be suffering
4. Personal experience with some endogenic systems being used to justify hatred against all endogenic systems
None of these are real arguments. They all rely on completely faulty logic, appeals to emotion, and petty prejudice.
I have yet to see a single argument against endogenic systems that is faultless in its logic, there may be such an argument out there, but it's clear that the vast majority of anti-endo arguments are illogical, irrational, and overly emotional attempts to give moral licensing to hate on a group of people.
"systemhood is inherently disordered, you can't be a system if you aren't disordered" that's a funny way to say that you don't view functional multiplicity as a viable recovery option.
Anti-endos kill me with "reclaiming plural"
IT WASN'T MADE FOR THEM TO BEGIN WITH
"Endos steal our terms!"
What are y'all doing though? Trying to make something inclusive into something hateful
Sad sad sad
Not all systems with DID see it as a disability. Matter of fact standalone DID isn't always a disability, the other shit that comes with it makes it one.
We do not see our DID as a disability rather it is a defense thing that protected us in traumatic and stressful situations
Anti-endos stop speaking for everyone with DID challenge IMPOSSIBLE!
People really will say pro endos are "talking over trauma survivors/cdd systems" when they're just pointing out flawed arguments or correction misinformation
Why do people think it's okay to be "neutral" on non traumagenic + nondisordered systems
No one is going to say "I'm neutral on autism, I don't believe autism is real but I won't harass anyone who says they have it!" And then get praised for it
If you're endo neutral fuck you. These are real experiences people have. You can't just "be neutral" on something people get harassed for being every day. Fuck you
You're either pro or you're anti, that's it. You can't be neutral on depression. You can't be neutral on schizophrenia. You can't be neutral on DID. You can't be neutral on dissociation. You can't be neutral on amnesia. So why the fuck are endogenic/nondisordered systems the exception? You can't be "neutral" on depression because you either believe people can be depressed or you think they're "just lazy". You can't be "neutral" on amnesia because you either believe people can forget things or you think they're just lying
You're not "neutral". You either don't believe endogenic/nondisordered systems exist or you believe they exist.
And I swear to fuck if someone says "uhmm tag syscourse!!! Wah wah!!" Someones identity and experiences are not syscourse. Calling out shitty people is not syscourse. So shut the fuck up
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This is an EMERGENCY!
HOW TO TELL IF SOMEONE IS FAKING HAVING DID OR OSDD : A Quick Guide.
DID fakers and OSDD fakers...why do they do it? Why pretend to have a disorder that causes such distress, confusion, anger, and internal pain for those who have it?
Perhaps they enjoy being the center of attention. Perhaps they're a chronic liar. Perhaps they weren't given enough care or attention from parents at a young age, so they now seek such in the form of online validation. Or perhaps they're just bored and looking for a new little 'internet trend' to jump on.
Whatever the case may be, there has been an uptick in illness / disorder fakers. And one that seems to have blown up the most ( for some reason ) is fakers of DID and OSDD. A majority of the online spaces for people who actually have these disorders are now overrun with people faking the disorder for attention ( or whatever other motive / reason they may have behind faking ). This is a bad thing, obviously. Nobody wants their illness or disorder mocked and made into some little roleplaying game by insensitive people online. However, there is good news! And that good news lies in the fact that while no two people may fake in the same exact way...a majority ( if not all ) of fakers have specific things that set them apart from those who are actually diagnosed!
This guide will highlight some of the key things to look for when it comes to spotting a DID or OSDD faker.
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1.) They are a minor and claim to have a ridiculous amount of alters.
There is, from a literal and psychologically speaking standpoint, no way you're going to be 13 years old and somehow be aware of 300+ alters in your system. Not only that, but systems with a large amount of alters aren't as common as systems with headcounts more around the range of 6 to 30 alters.
2.) All or almost all of their alters are fictives ( mostly from new fandoms, too ).
Systems with more fictives than brain-made alters are real, yes. But a system of all or almost all fictives that are specifically from a source that the 'host' likes - especially if the source is new - is a telltale sign that someone is more than likely faking.
3.) Split multiple new alters from a source just days after said sources creation.
I know that a lot of 'systems' who split new alters from a source that just came out days ago like to just say "well I'm autistic and hyperfixated on the media, so that's why I split the alters". Though unfortunately for them, they're forgetting the fact that alters aren't gonna form just because you decided to hyperfixate on a specific media. There needs to be trauma, stress, or otherwise overwhelming bad emotions for an alter to split. Bonus faker points to the ones who say they were "just watching the show, and then [insert character here] was randomly in my head now, haha!", because that's just a 100%
4.) Chronically online in general.
See someone that's chronically online and a system? There's a 99.9% change that they're faking DID or OSDD. The influx of fakers started with normal people coming on line due to covid back in 2019. Chronically online + system almost always = 100% faker!
5.) Self proclaimed 'endogenic' or 'willogenic' system.
Endogenic systems are systems formed without trauma. Willogenic systems are systems which are apparently formed by will by the 'host'. Both of which - especially willogenic - are not possible and are not real systems. While some endogenic system may simply be systems who can't remember their trauma, willogenic systems - or systems created by will - are fake and are not real. You cannot create a system just because.
6.) Self-diagnose, or believe that self-diagnosis for something as complex as DID / OSDD is valid.
Self diagnosis works for things such as the following : any physical injury that you can see, a fever, a cold, the flue, a stomach bug. Things that self diagnosis do NOT work for include : BPD, DID, OSDD, OCD, things like that. Basically, if anyone is ever willing to claim they have a complex disorder without a diagnosis, they are 99% likely to be a chronically online faker - as faking and chronically online individuals unfortunately seem to have a very strong correlation.
7.) DO NOT WANT HELP OR A DIAGNOSIS.
Refusing to get a diagnosis is a sign that you fear you may be told you don't have DID or OSDD. I say this based on the multiple different accounts I've seen of people claiming such - that they don't want a diagnosis because they don't want to be told they were wrong about their fake self-diagnosis.
If anyone who reads this has anything to add, feel free to leave a comment regarding such, or feel free to send a DM or ask! Thank you for reading, and I do hope this post could help someone!
Diagnosed traumagenic DID system here, with PTSD and CPTSD, yet again
You are just being blatantly ableist at this point, and you know it.
1. Minors can experience complex trauma that causes structural dissociation. Having a high alter count isn't the same as knowing every alter. Systems with a high alter count are as common as systems with a lower alter count.
2. Due to the current age of everything being digital, fictives (and new fictives) are much more likely than they used to be, and even before the 2000s there were many diagnosed systems with majority fictives.
3. Guess what, some people are constantly stressed.
4. Guess what, some people don't have a safe place for themself offline, and use being online to escape their stressful/traumatising life.
5. Endogenic systems and created systems have been acknowledged numerous times by numerous professionals and are supported by brain scans, which you keep ignoring
6. An informed self-diagnosis is fine and valid and whatever else, it happens and can be pretty much required for a variety of reasons.
7. If somebody wants help, they'll look for help. Some people aren't in a position where they can safely access help. Some people's disorders make them avoid help for various reasons. Some people have been traumatised by the medical system. Etc. etc. And some people just don't want a diagnosis because they don't want one. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to be abused in a medical system because you're diagnosed with something.
None of these are signs somebody is faking. These are all common experiences of actual disordered systems. Fucking hell.
How to respond to fakeclaiming 101 ^^^^^^^
WHAT ENDOGENIC SYSTEMS ARE NOT:
Ableist
A joke
Invasive
Evil
Disgusting
Malicious
Less plural
Less oppressed
WHAT ENDOGENIC SYSTEMS ARE:
Beautiful
Unique
Valid
Loved
Systems just like any other!
When someone says something is exclusive to CDD systems and then says "pro endos don't use"
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Soooo
You actually mean it is for anti-endo CDD systems only? Want to just lead with that next time? Save everyone time?
"Safe space for 'insert disability', but pro endos you aren't allowed here".
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Sooo its not a safe space. It is an "anti endo 'insert disability' safe space"
AND THIS GOES FOR THE OPPOSITE SYSCOURSE SIDE TOO.
Again, just lead with your stance. Dear lord. Stop pretending something is FOR EVERYONE when you don't mean it. Who someone does or does not support does not erase the fact that they can still share your disorders.
Its either for everyone, or its only for your specific side of syscourse. Make it clear from the start. Don't make a blog name, and huge description that is being so welcoming to "everyone with said disorder" only to tell a huge group of people with it to fuck off. It is honestly cruel. You are making a syscourse blog/term/flag. You are not making a system or support specific thing.
And just to make this absolutely clear to group blog creators that are accepting posts from random people the blog is for... SYSCOURSE SHOULD NEVER BE BROUGHT UP TO BEGIN WITH. You will never know or care if someone is anti or pro endogenic systems unless they say something. Or lord forbid they end up being the big scary type of system you don't like. Unless they bring syscourse TO YOU you will never know. This goes for both sides. Pro and anti.
If your blog is about ADHD, BPD, Psychosis, Autism, etc SYSCOURSE should never be discussed. No one should be dissing on any system experience. CDD or nonCDD.
So why on Earth is someone's stance so important that you are telling someone who only wants to share something personal, and to feel seen and understood by others who are going through the same thing, that they are not welcomed to partake? What, you scared people will think you support this random person who doesn't align with one aspect that isn't even related to the blog/flag/term?
I just do not understand. If you are uncomfortable with interaction, then don't say something is "for ALL CDDs", or "everyone with", or "a safe space" if IT IS NOT ACTUALLY THAT.
I am so tired of it. It is exhausting feeling erased just because I happen to not agree exactly with someone. To have people refusing to see me as an equal. To refuse to see me as someone who is going through the same damn things they are. You may not agree with me, but I would never exclude you from something. I would never deny you parts of your identity. I would never take a space away from you if I claim it is for everyone.
Just. Stop.
Stop saying things are for everyone when it clearly isn't.
Endogenic systems are an oppressed minority.
This is a statement that will make a lot of sysmeds start clutching their pearls and pulling out their excuses. But it's true.
Endogenic systems don't have the privilege of recognition that traumagenic systems do. Not every system has a CDD, but of the endos that do, there's been so little psychological research done into endos with CDD because biases against us means a stubborn refusal to help us.
Not only that, but the entire idea that only systems with CDDs are valid is based on endophobia. Those ideas are designed and drilled into people's minds specifically to reject and deject us.
Our lived experiences are denied from us to keep us quiet and in our corners. Systems starting to discover themselves are taught to hate endos to keep the social oppression alive. Pro-endo traumagenic systems are rejected like us because the thought of traumagenics stepping out of line angers the sysmeds. Our plural joy is crushed and tossed aside because the idea of us finding our place is terrifying to the majority.
Unfortunately, due to plurality as a whole already being a concept subjected to ableism, endos are a minority of a minority. This is an issue that goes unrecognized because they want us to stay quiet.
But we won't. We know our validity. ( ā”Ģ_ā”Ģ)
It will always be insane to me to see on someoneās dni say āfakeclaimersā then have āendos/endo supportersā right after it
If someone tells you endo/willo systems aren't real, tell them to create a headmate. willo systems are endo systems, and if you can create a headmate, surely a singlet can, which means they would be a willo system, which means they would be an endo system, which means endo/willo systems are real. Oh, and for the people arguing systems in general aren't real, same idea. If they can willingly create a headmate, then they can willingly become a system, which means systems are real. Just thought to give this idea to y'all!
I wish anti endos understood that they are the ones who are watering down CDDs to "alter disorder" when they say that system/plural = CDD.
TRANSDID IS WHEN SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE A DISORDER BUT IS TRANSITIONING TO HAVE SAID DISORDER. TRANSPLURAL IS JUST THE FRIENDLY VERSION OF TRANSDID.
WILLO ā TRANSPLURAL BECAUSE WILLOS ARE WILLING HEAD MATES INTO EXISTENCE. THEY'RE NOT TRANSITIONING INTO HAVING PLURALITY.
ENDOS ENCOMPASS PLURALITY CAUSED BY STUFF OTHER THAN TRAUMA. THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE STRESS
ENDOS DO NOT LIKE RADQUEERS BECAUSE IT IS A HARMFUL MOVEMENT THAT SUPPORTS HARMFUL IDEOLOGIES.
STOP FUCKING CONFUSING ENDOS FOR RADQUEERS BECAUSE THEY'LL NEVER BE RADQUEERS. RADQUEERS WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED INTO ENDO SPACES.
