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Pray for my local library to not reject an order I placed on a book about transmasc history because currently the only book they have about trans men is fucking Irreversible Damage and it is my god given DUTY to change that by requesting as many trans books as physically possible 😤✊

every-queer-ya-book

Yeah Irreversible Damage sucks. Like a lot of people in reblogs are saying though, it's likely not the goal of any of the staff for this to be the case! There's a chance that there previously were more positive trans books, but they were challenged by patrons and removed. If multiple patrons make a stink about a book, it will likely either move sections or dissappear entirely to avoid conflict.

As someone who works in a library, in regards to the comments, while I fully understand why you would suggest stealing it, I don't reccomend that! Almost all libraries have tags in books and beepers at the front, and many of those will log exactly what book has been taken. If the copy goes missing, it will eventually be noticed and a new one may be ordered. That would just be giving more money to the author. The best thing to do is leave the book alone- if nobody checks it out for a long enough time, it will be 'weeded'.

I know it can be hard to leave alone. My library also has Irreversible Damage and Detrans, among others, and I feel awful every time I see them. But please don't hide it within the library either. It will most likely be found by staff or a page (my job) and we're required to fix misplaced books and put them back on the shelves. Some libraries may even require that hidden books must be logged for interest, which delays them being weeded even longer.

I sincerely hope that they accept your request! If you want any reccomendations I am very happy to oblige, including for fiction with less obvious trans themes (higher chance of making it past the board).

this-is-trans-joy

Yup! I need to make it a little more obvious in my library posts that I never blame the libraries for books either being there or not being there (that’s on me!) because I know how libraries work and I know that it’s usually up to the patrons themselves who decide what ends up getting stocked, that’s why I’m so hell bent on ordering/requesting new trans books so that the few transphobic books there are get drowned out by trans-positive ones. I also was not planning on stealing the book because I know that wouldn’t be possible without another copy showing up in its place, so the best I can do is just get more trans books!

At the very least, I hope this post encourages others to do the same, because I don’t know how common knowledge it is that people can single-handedly decide what kind of books their library stocks if they put in the effort. I’ve requested a few other books before (one of them the next series in a manga) and, with the help of the librarians themselves, had them stocked within a few weeks! It’s always very satisfying walking into the library and seeing the books that were purchased on my behalf, it’s such a simple and effective way to make a difference! Especially since it also benefits the libraries. The more books you check out, the more you use the libraries, the easier it is for them to get funding!

Please use your libraries folks, and order, request and check out as many books as you can!

thefloweraster

can I request more Morro in the nothing bad ever happens au 🙏🏽

More Alive Morro: He used to wear a lot more jewelry and makeup as a teen. Once the other ninjas and Lloyd arrived, his new responsibilities left him with zero time for his appearance. Between a tighter budget and constant exhaustion, he transitioned to baggy clothes that made training and cleaning easier. He still goes all out with his full makeup and outfit just to run to the supermarket.

Lloyd came to live at the monastery when he was five. Unlike Wu, Morro maintained much closer contact with the other Elemental Masters, as well as with his aunt and cousin. His cousin grew up knowing both the Master of Wind and his mother's phone number. Consequently, when Misako abandoned Lloyd at Darkley's Boarding School, Morro was the second person Lloyd called. So Morro came to get him.

Wu, his son, and his nephew started holding regular movie nights with Lloyd. The television that had sat unused for years finally had a purpose.

I didn’t think much on the ages, forgot to draw wu being older on the first one. Morro is in his late twenties.

daydreamers-choir

We support all people with CDDs! UNLESS YOUR AN ENDO SUPPORTER!!!

okay, but that's not supporting all people with CDDs then now is it?

Your supporting people as long as they have the same bigoted beliefs as you. At the end of the day, anti endos are based, and built off of hate. Just because you find yourself being supported by other bigots now does not mean you are safe. Once you differ from them enough you will also be on the same chopping block as the "endo supporting fakers" you are so bigoted against.

Nonnie

There's another "I advocate for and support any and all traumagenic systems with a CDD!! Pro endos go fuck yourselves" blog in some tags again

Like. Cool. Yup. It's totally fine to ignore people's experiences just because they disagree with you. You're definitely not excluding people from spaces they belong in simply because you don't like their opinions. /sarcasm

#syscourse #tw syscourse #did #did system #traumagenic #traumagenic system

Whenever we feel like we're making up our symptoms, we go write a journal entry about it, because seeing all the journal entries from all the other parts jolts us into remembering that we're not making up our symptoms, and that we are in fact disabled and traumatised and struggling.

Logically knowing this doesn't make us feel any better though -_- stupid brain

-Azrael

#did #actually did #traumagenic #traumagenic system #did system #osddid #cptsd #ptsd #complex ptsd #trauma #plural

crumbsonthebed

no because if you had to create a system in order to survive i feel like youre basically doing the same as traumagenic systems

even if it wasnt to survive a traumatic situation your system still aids you with day to day tasks no matter how small and that still counts as survival

i really cant understand why endogenic systems are so frowned upon

purewhimsicality

THANK YOUUUU

Whenever I see someone against my existence it lowkey feels like theyre saying indirectly saying i would rather you would have died. I had no one on my side, i was consistently going through trauma and them voluntarily assuming that everyone except them lives in a healthy environment is sickening. They were my only reason for living, i wouldnt be able to survive day to day STILL without them because the effects are still there to this day,

I already had split identities due to what happened to me and still do not meet the criteria for a dissociative disorder BOTH then and now, and denying my existence and disregarding my survival is painful and ludicrious. Even if you argue that creating headmates is damaging which it isnt btw, it is stll ableist and demonizes people who suffer with mental illness and harm themselves using whatever method. Creating a hierachy of who suffers the most, or which type of method of self harm is most valid, which it isnt self harm in this case but STILL actively puts down everyone and reestablishes ableist norms.

cheshirelipstick

this is as good of a post as any to talk about a theory that I have about why some systems look down on endogenic ones. I theorise it might be because when doctors tell you that you're plural and that this is a result of trauma then it's easy to latch onto that as something you know and understand about yourself and perspective. When you feel like your sense of self has turned upside down you can ask yourself "how does this relate to my trauma?" Or "how would my trauma lead me to this situation?" So when endogenic systems come along it brings that certainty into question- it's not just about how you feel about yourself and your system anymore, it's about what it means to be a system.

purewhimsicality

plural et al has a video discussing this, I found it interesting. They said that the majority of antis are very young people often children who are still in abusive homes and environments, they dont have a way to defend themselves, and they are told by others that endos are the enemy, because they cant direct their anger unto someone else they are told they have a scapegoat they can blame for not being believed for what they are going through instead of attacking the ableist systems and societal beliefs they attack a more acceptable threat.

(1) Sysmeds Are Not The Enemy - YouTube <<

@guardianssystem , please ignore this @ if ur busy, but I thought u might find the video interesting

#syscourse #thanks for the tag! :)

Hello, hope this doesn't bother you, but the document you showed me is really helpful and now I understand better non-traumagenic plurality. And about the tulpa/thoughtforms (idk if I said it correctly), it wasn't something I knew that could exist outside religious and cultural context.

And the document in general is really neat and helpful, and personally, easy to understand since you give small paragraphs explaining without "overusing" complex words and using simple vocabulary (for me, atleast). Also, it kinda encouraged me to begin researching plurality too. I also have been seeing ur account and I've seen you reblog a lot of syscourse debunking points and correcting misinformation.... and now that makes me think, why do anti-endos do not believe in personal experience evidence? It's still evidence, so that confuses me.

So, thank you for helping me understand and support something that I used to be aggressively against in the past, and now I can support without fear of thinking that I may be 'stigmatizing a disorder' or being 'ableist' without being aware. I'm working on going to a better path and be proud of myself for not being anti-endo anymore ^⁠_⁠^

We're really glad that our posts could help :) We read through your post about changing your views - we're proud of you too, it must've been difficult to move away from it all, but you did awesome. We hope that things only get easier and better for you from here 🫂 Take care of yourself!

We highly recommend this list, if you're looking for some stuff that might help with recovery!

We have a folder of some self-help resources and workbooks here,

As well as some books and articles around recovery/treatment here,

We wish you a smooth and swift recovery journey!

-Azrael

#syscourse #did #did resources #traumagenic #traumagenic system #plural #plurality #endo safe #tw syscourse

right definitely not some lying going on here i dont think you have did at all and most of your posts get us endo systems laughed at did you consider that...

Okay, anon, you're going to have to:

- explain why you believe we don't have DID (and why you think fakeclaming is okay)

- why scientific recognition of endogenic systems, would get endogenic systems laughed at

- and why you aren't a troll

if you want to be taken at all seriously, lol.

-Azrael

#syscourse #tw fakeclaiming

How do you feel about endogenic CDD systems? We are endogenic but have a CDD.

It depends on what you mean by endogenic CDD :)

A small note first - we're not entirely sold on the age cut-off for CDDs. We're not going to say there is or isn't an age cut-off, we feel like there's just too many unknown and underresearched variables at the moment. Obviously, cases happening past the normal cut-off would be extremely rare regardless, and there's many cases where a CDD did form in childhood but wasn't noticeable or actively present until adulthood.

Endogenic systems can have trauma, and sometimes that trauma is the cause of a CDD, while still being an endogenic system.

Whether they intentionally created headmates, accidentally caused headmates, were plural from birth, are plural because of some other experience (Otherkin/Therian, spiritual reasons, etc.), or any other reason, they could experience trauma at a young age (or maybe any age) that causes dissociative amnesia and dysfunction, and still consider the formation of their system unrelated to their trauma.

And, endogenic systems with a CDD who say they don't have a history of trauma. There's a few ways we think this would happen.

Subjective experiences could mean they don't consider their trauma to be trauma, whether because they just see it that way, or because they underestimate the impact of their trauma

Dissociative amnesia, of course, where they don't remember they experienced trauma

They could have DP/DR disorder, which isn't always caused by trauma, and because of their already existing system, their symptoms/experiences could resemble a CDD

A psychologist or other qualified professional diagnosed them with a CDD, whether because they believe the system fits the criteria despite lack of trauma, or for insurance reasons

The system isn't aware of multiplicity/systemhood/plurality outside of having a CDD. They don't fit the criteria for a CDD, but to them, there doesn't seem to be anything else that explains their experiences, or they're pressured into believing they have a CDD because they're a system.

In reviewing literature, we have seen a lot of pieces discussing how social perceptions of multiplicity could be the cause of distressing/negative experiences/symptoms in those who are already multiple, making somebody look like they have a CDD (to themself, others, or both.)

And other things similar to the above!

It all ends up getting a bit messy, really. Everybody's experiences are different. The multiple parts found in CDDs are different identity states made from trauma to counter the effects of trauma. The way this is shown is the dysfunctional symptoms, like the flashbacks, unwelcome intrusions, etc. It's very difficult to attatch words to our thoughts on this matter, lol. We do consider CDDs to be posttraumatic disorders, but we'd be interested in exploring why somebody might say they experience otherwise.

If an endogenic system were to tell us they had a CDD with no trauma at all, we're not going to tell them they're wrong, or automatically not believe them. We'd be interested in hearing about their experiences!

Is it possible to have a CDD without trauma at all? In the case of the non-trauma models of DID, the research we've seen saying that non-trauma models aren't true also often say that there have been a few real cases of DID, that fit the fantasy model or sociocognitive model or iatrogenic model. Though, we haven't looked very far into this yet, so we don't have much more info to provide here.

Something we'd love to do is a survey thing where some endogenic systems with/without trauma and with/without a CDD fill out a self-report scale about their possible trauma-related experiences and symptoms. Like the ITQ, or MSS, PCL-5, ACE-Q, IES-R, etc. That would take a lot of work though, lol.

Don't mind the bit of a mess this post is in - it's hard to properly conceptualise our opinions around this 😄

#syscourse #endogenic system #pro endo #endo safe

pro-endo-emet-selch

Today on anti-endos using words wrong:

Today's word: bootlicker

definition:

someone who praises or is extremely polite to a more powerful or rich person in a way that is not sincere, usually in order to get an advantage for themselves:

Examples of use:

Even after years of being a magnet for bootlickers and overzealous admirers, he's still just a nice, polite young man.

They try to portray the scholars who support him as mere bootlickers.

PLEASE TELL US HOW ENDOGENIC SYSTEMS ARE RICH AND OR POWERFUL, ANTI-ENDOS. Most of them are either middle class or under that struggling, especially in the United States. Pro endos are not bootlickers.

🥀{📚}

syscoursemcgee

I kinda just roll my eyes now when I see pro/endos claim that endos arent claiming to have a CDD, because...sure I guess thats true for some of them but:

Is an actual fucking term someone coined. I fear endos can't use the "but we aren't claiming to have a CDD!" When this is what is on their favourite website.

guardianssystem

Correction, as a traumagenic DID system:

The vast majority of endogenic systems aren't claiming to have a CDD without trauma.

Many endogenic systems have trauma. Some have a CDD because of their trauma. Their system, multiplicity, or plurality just didn't come from or wasn't caused by trauma. Endogenic doesn't mean without trauma entirely.

If you scroll literally one sentence down that page, you'll see exactly what we're saying. The term exists because of mixed origins/multigenic/traumaendo systems, or systems that have experienced trauma, but aren't traumagenic.

Endogenic CDD, also known as ECDD or Endo CDD, is a term to encompass Endogenic systems that have Complex Dissociative Disorders.

"Tired of seeing TraumaEndo and similar systems get thrown under the bus and/or forgotten. The term was coined by an Endogenic C-DID system."

Referencing,

💬 4 🔁 37 ❤️ 108 · Endogenic CDD (ECDD) Flag · Endogenic systems are claiming to have CDDs? You bet your sweet ass we are, cause some of us

"Multigenic systems exist! We exist! Stop erasing us because you're uncomfortable with people outside your preconceived notion of what a system is!"

#syscourse #tw anti endo

kailverkami

Doodle, ok? ... Ok

https://www.tumblr.com/guardianssystem/822362914114682880/httpswwwtumblrcomguardianssystem822341152972?source=share

Wait, I was referring to the person who sent the ask, they believe that the facts about endogenic systems, which have been proven to be real, are actually misinformation, and that it was idiotic of the person who sent that ask, apologize if I expressed myself poorly :(

That makes a lot more sense, lol. Don't worry about it! But if we may, we recommend re-reading the post - you may have misinterpreted it about as much as we misinterpreted your ask /light-hearted

anti-willo-firefist

What genuinely baffles me with endogenics who claim you can "choose" to be a system is the fact that they will claim it has been backed up by science, when, and correct me if I'm wrong, but having a CDD will affect your actual brain structure and can be detected with brain scans? How can you choose to have something that litterally affects the STRUCTURE of your BRAIN? You can't will a neurological condition into existence, and I feel that the majority of studies can prove that

guardianssystem

You could at least get our username right, lol. If there's a recent time we haven't been civil, or if you have an issue with us (that isn't us supporting endos), please feel free to tell us, we'd be happy to sort it out

Hi, diagnosed traumagenic DID system here.

-CDDs and systemhood or plurality/multiplicity aren't the same thing

List of references on what a system is

^The Haunted Self

People who identify as both transgender and plural (more than one person sharing a body), including those with a diagnosis of Dissociative I

This review highlights heterogeneity within multiplicity-spectrum experiences, emphasizing the need for person-centred, individualized under

-There's a multitude of traumagenic systems that aren't disordered (that you are fakeclaiming), let alone endogenic, because non-disordered symptoms and experiences are part of how mental disorders work.

You say they go against science, but this is how science works.

The question of ‘what is a mental disorder?’ is central to the philosophy of psychiatry, and has crucial practical implications for psychiat

PDF | The aim of this paper is to examine if the diagnostic criteria of DSM-5 are able to differentiate between non-pathological religious p

-There are brain scans supporting non-traumagenic plurality and multiplicity

The topic of multiple personality, redefined as Dissociative Identity Disorders (DIDs) in the DSM-5, is an intriguing and still debated diso

Here as well as here and also here

You can find a lot of references supporting us here

And here

Here as well

Here, too

Here, three

And most importantly, here

Normally we'd write out a full length post but we've responded to these arguments multiple times a day for the past three days, so we've already previously written out all information and references many times over

#syscourse #tw anti endo

evilwatermeloneater

Hey there! Could someone give me resources from the existence of endogenics and non-disordered plurality??? <3

guardianssystem

Somebody's tagged us (thank you to them), here's a list!

Medical & Non-Medical (Endogenic) System SourcesBy Guardians System, a diagnosed traumagenic DID system with PTSD and CPTSDYou’re welcome

Although if you have a question or are wondering about something specific, feel free to ask and we can respond with a direct reference

evilwatermeloneater

Thanks! I'm reading the document and still didn't finish reading, but I have a question about the tulpamancy part. Wasn't that a cultural practice? Like, a religious practice or something like that? Or is it an entirely different concept?

The document looks pretty neat tbh.

Edit: Nevermind, I found the links about tulpamancy and now I understand it more. Sorry for my dumbass asking lol.

guardianssystem

Separate thing!

There is a practice in Tibetan Buddhism, that uses a word that was translated to 'Tulpa'. The translated name was then sort of applied to a concept that already existed in theosophy, thoughtforms. Tulpamancy is considered separate to the Tibetan Buddhist practice it got its name from :)

^historical book

💬 4 🔁 139 ❤️ 334 · Western Tulpamancy is so fundamentally different from Buddhist Emanations that the two practices are only similar in na

^Tibetan Buddhist discussing Tulpamancy

I would’ve made this post earlier, but there’s been a flow of positivity posts and anon asks lately, so I didn’t feel as pressured to make a

^possibly where the claim that it's problematic came from

^a good read on issues that Tibetan Buddhists are having to deal with today :)

guardianssystem

Good tags! ^

It's absolutely good to point out. Imo, the translations definitely had issues - things would probably be a lot easier if 'Tulpa' hadn't come to be at all, and instead thoughtform filled its place. But if current Tibetan Buddhists have no issue with the term, experience, or community, we think that is what's most important to consider :D

We believe it's (evangelical?) christian and not catholic, or at least is what's mentioned, should be findable here,

https://av.mandala.library.virginia.edu/video/cultivating-relationships-invisible-beings-phenomenology-and-cognitive-mechanisms-tulpamancy

https://www.tumblr.com/guardianssystem/822341152972931072/idk-just-wanted-to-say-thank-you-for-all-the?source=share

I didn't know that proven scientific facts are misinformation 💀

Anon, you're going to need to specify which proven scientific facts and misinformation you're referring to. Nobody knows what you're talking about. It could be quite literally anything.

#syscourse

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