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Deleted the original post showing the research from Daniel Gump about abortion law exceptions because he is currently updating the info to reflect the state of the laws post-Dobbs.
Here is the first map to be updated; referencing ectopic pregnancy surgeries:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/map-png-criminal-69412777
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absolutely mind-boggling that there are people out there who consider themselves feminists but don't support abortion.
reproductive rights are the most fundamental women's rights imaginable. misogyny comes from men controlling our bodies and pro-birthism is an extension of that. there is no such thing as a "pro-life feminist."
Most early feminists were in fact pro life and they say abortion as a tragedy
Pffft okay eve-is-a-terf. You try telling that to Susan B. Anthony. And Alice Paul. And Louisa May Alcott. And Jane Addams. And Pearl S. Buck. And Dr. Alice Bunker Stockham. And Elizabeth Edson Evans. The list goes on. Real feminists understand that the most basic human right is the right to life. All other rights are dependent on it.
And everyone knows thatâs true in literally any other scenario. If my bodily autonomy was more important than my right to life, I never would have been put in an eating disorder recovery program against my will when I was 14, even though I was killing myself. My cousin never would have been hospitalized and put on suicide watch, my uncle never would have been put in an alcohol addiction program, my best friend wouldnât have been resuscitated after her suicide attempt. If oneâs bodily autonomy canât even overrule their OWN right to life, where the hell are you getting the idea that it can overrule somebody elseâs?
a real feminist would say that the right to life doesn't apply to women? yeah right.
also, involuntary psych holds have limits on how long they can hold someone against their will to protect their autonomy.
women should not have to give up their bodies and their lives to allow an unwanted fetus to develop. how can you be a feminist if you don't respect a woman's right to a safe, legal, accessible abortion? you can't!
The right to life applies to everyone. It is the most basic human right because all other rights depend on it. I am not making the claim that women do not deserve the right to life, I am making the claim that they are not entitled to ending an innocent life, under any circumstances.
Involuntary psych ward holds for legal adults last at most 72 hours until a hearing is held, which usually puts their health in the hands of a guardian or family member if they are deemed unfit to make decisions about their own health. There are no such laws for minors. Again, there are no circumstances EVER where bodily autonomy is seen as superior to the right to life. Abortion is the only scenario where anyone even attempts to make that claim.
And again. Nobody has the ârightâ to kill an innocent human being. Ever. Abortion is not empowering. Itâs deeply traumatic for the mother, trying to call a procedure that always aims to kill someone involved âsafeâ is hysterical, the most common reason for abortion is lack of finances and strangely enough pro-aborts love to burn down organizations that help mothers in those situations (itâs almost like they donât actually care about giving them a choice unless itâs feticide! weird!), arguing that it would be better to kill the child than for it go grow up in poverty literally makes you sound like Thanos, and real feminists realize that rapists and sex traffickers LOVE abortion because it lets them get away with their crimes, especially because abortion clinics never report themâthey lose customers that way.
absolutely mind-boggling that there are people out there who consider themselves feminists but don't support abortion.
reproductive rights are the most fundamental women's rights imaginable. misogyny comes from men controlling our bodies and pro-birthism is an extension of that. there is no such thing as a "pro-life feminist."
Most early feminists were in fact pro life and they say abortion as a tragedy
Pffft okay eve-is-a-terf. You try telling that to Susan B. Anthony. And Alice Paul. And Louisa May Alcott. And Jane Addams. And Pearl S. Buck. And Dr. Alice Bunker Stockham. And Elizabeth Edson Evans. The list goes on. Real feminists understand that the most basic human right is the right to life. All other rights are dependent on it.
And everyone knows thatâs true in literally any other scenario. If my bodily autonomy was more important than my right to life, I never would have been put in an eating disorder recovery program against my will when I was 14, even though I was killing myself. My cousin never would have been hospitalized and put on suicide watch, my uncle never would have been put in an alcohol addiction program, my best friend wouldnât have been resuscitated after her suicide attempt. If oneâs bodily autonomy canât even overrule their OWN right to life, where the hell are you getting the idea that it can overrule somebody elseâs?
From Secular Pro-Life on Facebook:
A few people have asked us about the TikTok of a young woman arguing that the "biological narrative" of pregnancy conceptualizes the fetus as a parasite.
Dr. Calum Miller recently addressed the video on Twitter, and we are reposting his response here:
This viral video about fetuses being parasites is honestly the perfect example of what happens when you give a first year undergrad a small bit of technical knowledge and a camera. (I'm not saying she is a first year undergrad - just that she comes across like one.)
1) She seems to think there is an interesting difference between the âbody knowing its pregnantâ and the fetus âtrickingâ the body into knowing that its there through hCG. Obviously the only way the body could know that it is pregnant is by some sort of signal from the fetus. To try and distinguish these is unintelligible. This is like saying that your body doesnât know that it is cold: the cold forces your body to warm up. They are one and the same thing.
2) She seems to suggest that the outer layer of the zygote/embryo preventing an immune response is a 'trick'. But the immune system helps to clear the debris from any cell rupturing, including the mother's cells. That doesn't show the cell is an 'invader'.
3) She seems to think it is interesting that parasites and fetuses occasionally use some similar mechanisms for evading an immune response. That is how evolution works. There are occasional similarities between how parasites and the mother's cells evade immune responses too - but this is clearly irrelevant.
4) The final point about suppressor cells seems to undermine her argument. Suppressor cells do the same job for the mother's cells, preventing them from being attacked â but we wouldnât call it a âtrickâ as if her cells are actually invaders.
5) She seems to think it is significant that the fetus makes the placenta and puts it into your body without you knowing. 99% of things in our body are done without us knowing, so this is obviously not significant in any way.
6) How does she think a baby could ever exist without, in her words, âtrickingâ the mother? It has different genes because it is a different human being â obviously it has to avoid immune attacks (just as all cells within the mother do). To say that this is a âtrickâ is just assuming from the outset that the baby doesnât belong there. You could just as easily (in fact more so) interpret it as the clever mechanism nature has come up with to defend both a mother and her baby from autoimmunity. Calling it a trick is really just assuming the conclusion â that the fetus doesnât belong there. But the falsehood of the conclusion is actually more obvious than its truth â obviously the fetus belongs there: that is how reproduction works and that is why any animals exist at all.
7) You could obviously portray the entire immune system as a kind of âtrickâ if you really wanted: the whole immune system has developed mechanisms to make sure it only targets foreign things and not host cells. This isnât a âtrickâ in the sense that the host cells are actually foreign invaders; itâs just how the immune system had to evolve: it had to recognise host cells (and offspring), and attack other things. Obviously this doesnât always work. To try and extract a narrative out of this is frankly completely bizarre.
8) Most of this seems to just boil down to the profoundly uninventive claim that babies are genetically distinct from their mothers and hence need biological mechanisms to evade the immune system. Well, obviously. But mum's cells need some of those tricks as well!
9) This all just depends on the claim that the fetus is invading. But obviously this isnât plausible â the fetus is there in its natural habitat (as we all once were) with no culpability and usually as a result of an action the mother took which she knew would result in that. It is like saying the person in the apartment above you invaded your apartment because you smashed your ceiling/their floor in. It's basically just putting a moral spin onto some rudimentary biological facts and it is embarrassing.
10) While we're here, did you know that, far from the baby typically harming her mother, mortality rates after abortion are way, way higher than after childbirth? https://calumsblog.com/2022/02/10/abortion-and-maternal-mortality/ for more info.
And did you know that the baby produces stem cells which go round mum's body healing her tissues, e.g. from heart attacks, strokes, liver damage, and more? One leading scholar concludes: "after the mother spends 9 months providing nutrients and an environment for optimal growth and development of the baby, the baby gives back cells with regenerative potential to the mother...it is the mother who benefits". [Fetal Cell Microchimerism in the Maternal Heart: Baby Gives Back, Stephanie Pritchard and Diana W. Bianchi]
Pregnancy is normal. It is healthy. It is beautiful. Let's stop dehumanising women and children by pathologising it.
Full Twitter thread here: https://twitter.com/DrCalumMiller/status/1547701373793234949?t=pTgnNl-M4_GnG8tjaCf_-Q&s=19
âI am adopted and my biological mother was 17 and so was my biological father. She was 7 and a half months pregnant when she decided to go to Planned Parenthood, which is the largest abortion provider in the world. And they counseled her to have a late term saline abortion, which is a saline solution that is injected into the motherâs womb. The baby gulps that solution, it burns the baby inside and out and then she is to deliver a dead baby within 24 hours. And to everyoneâs great shock and surprise I didnât arrive dead but alive on April the 6th, 1977 in a Los Angeles county abortion clinic. Whatâs fantastic about this, about the perfect timing of my arrival, is that the abortionist was not on duty yet. So he wasnât even given the opportunity to continue on with his plan for my life, which was death. And I know that I am in a government building and a beautiful one it is and I love your country as well as my own. But I know in the age that we live in it is not at all politically correct to say the name of Jesus Christ in places like this; to bring him into these sorts of meetings because his name can make people so terribly uncomfortable. But I didnât survive so I could make everyone comfortable. I survived so I could stir things up a bit and I have a great time doing it. And so I was delivered alive, as Iâve already said, after 18 hours. I should be blind, I should be burned, I should be dead. And yet Iâm not. You know what is fantastic vindication is the fact that the abortionist had to sign my birth certificate. So I know who he is. And it also says, for any skeptic listening, on my medical records: born during saline abortion. Ha! They didnât win. Iâve done some research on the man that performed the abortion on me. And his clinics are the largest chain of clinics in the United States of America and they gross $70 million a year. I read him say, I read a quote from him at some point several years ago and he said, âI have aborted over a million babies and I consider it my passion.â I tell you these things because, listen ladies and gentlemen, we are in an interesting battle whether we realize it or not in this world. It is a battle between life and death. What side are you on? So a nurse called an ambulance and had me transferred to a hospital, which is absolutely miraculous. Generally, the practice at the time and up until 2002, was, in my country, was to end the life of an abortion survivor by strangulation, suffocation, leaving the baby there to die, or throwing the baby away. But on August the 5th 2002, my extraordinary President Bush signed into law the Born Alive Infants Protection Act to prevent that from occurring anymore. You see, weâre playing for keeps. I mean Iâm hoping to be hated by the time I die so I can feel God about me and understand what it was to be hated. I mean, He was hated, Christ was hated. And not that I look forward to being hated, but I know along my journey, I know Iâm already hated because I declare life. I say you didnât get me. The silent holocaust didnât win over me. And my mission, ladies and gentlemen, among many things is this: to infuse humanity into a debate that we have just compartmentalized and set on a shelf and said it is an issue. We have removed our emotions, we are becoming harder. Do you really want that? How much are you willing to take and how much are you willing to risk to speak the truth in love and graciousness and stand up and at least be willing to be hated? Or at the end of the day is it all about you? Or me? And so, after that I was placed in an emergency foster care home where they decided they didnât like me very well. And as Iâm fond of saying, I donât know how you could not adore me right from the start. What is wrong with these people? But they didnât. You see, Iâve been hated since conception by so many and loved by so many more, but most especially by God. Iâm His girl. You donât mess with Godâs girl. Iâve got a sign on my forehead that says, âYou better be nice to me because my father runs the world.â So after I was placed in the mean home, I was taken out of the mean home and placed into another home. A beautiful home. Pennyâs home. She said by this time I was 17 months old, 32 pounds of dead weight, and diagnosed with what I consider to be the gift of cerebral palsy, which was caused directly by the lack of oxygen to my brain while I was trying to survive. Now I am just compelled to say this. If abortion is merely about womenâs rights, ladies and gentlemen, then what were mine? There was not a radical feminist standing up and yelling about how my rights were being violated that day. In fact, my life was being snuffed out in the name of womenâs rights. And, ladies and gentlemen, I would not have cerebral palsy had I not survived all of this. So when I hear the appalling, disgusting argument that we should have abortions because the child just might be disabled. Auh! The horror that fills my heart. Ladies and gentlemen, there are things that you will only be able to learn by the weakest among us. And when you snuff them out, you are the one that loses. The Lord looks after them but you are the one that will suffer forever. And what arrogance, what absolute arrogance. And it has been an argument for so long in this human place that we live, that the stronger should dominate the weaker, should determine who lives or dies. The arrogance of that! Donât you realize that you cannot make your own heartbeat? Donât you realize that all the power you think you possess, you really possess none of it, it is the mercy of God that sustains you, even when you hate Him. So they looked at my dear Penny and they said, âGianna will never be anything.â Which is always encouraging. And she decided to ignore them and she worked with me three times a day and I began to hold up my head and they said, âWell, Gianna will never this and never that.â Long story shorter, I was walking by the age of three and a half with a walker and leg braces and I stand up here today with a mild little limp and without a walker and leg braces. I fall gracefully sometimes and very ungracefully at other times, depending on the situation. But I consider it all for the glory of God. You see, ladies and gentlemen, I am weaker than most of you, but this is my sermon. And what a small price to pay to be able to blaze through the world as I do and offer hope. And I think in our misunderstanding of the way things work, we misunderstand how beautiful suffering can be. I donât willingly sign up for it. But when it comes we forget, we forget that God is in control and God has a way of making the most miserable thing beautiful. I have met my biological mother. I have forgiven my biological mother. I am a Christian. Sheâs a very broken woman. She came to an event I was having two years ago, showed up unannounced, and said, âHello, Iâm your mother.â It was a very difficult day, and yet while I was enduring all of this (youâll probably think Iâm silly) but I was sitting there and thinking: I donât belong to you. I belong to Christ. Iâm his girl, and Iâm a princess. So no matter what you say in all your anger, and brokenness, and rage, itâs not mine to keep. Itâs not mine to carry. And I wonât.â
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Gianna Jessen, abortion survivor
Address at Parliament House, Victoria, Australia, September 8, 2008
(via tschaikovsky)
Powerful!
(via milbullrdr) I think everyone on Tumblr has things theyâll Never Not Reblog. This is one. And FYI, when a similar Born Alive measure was proposed in IL? Then-state-Senator Obama was dead-set against it. He insisted that women like Ms. Jessen donât really exist. When she testified before the IL state senate, there was a video, and the absolute disdain and contempt with which Senator Obama held Ms. Jessen was all over his face. (via muzical84)
âPregnant from rape at 11, my mom protected my life.â
Reblogging again for the most important quote from this video, from the mother herself:
There was hurt. We was all devastated. But my mother said âYou know, youâre pregnant, so weâre gonna get through this.â She helped me get through it.
I donât want to use the word âchoice.â She was gonna be born. I didnât have a choice to say âYouâre gonna live or Iâm going to abort you.â That wasnât a choice for me, and I thank God that wasnât a choice for me.
youâre literally an idiot for being pro-choice. i guarantee, you say youâre pro-life but would never adopt children, would never fight for universal healthcare, or would never support social safety nets. i guarantee if you got pregnant, willingly, and found out the fetus had Downâs syndrome, youâd abort it rather than take care of it for the rest of your natural life. youâre pro-choice now only because it hasnât affected you yet. you canât see to see outside yourself; and that makes you selfish and so short-sighted. this will affect you or a loved one day and youâll regret giving up a freedom you couldnât appreciate until you lost it. i pray to god he grant you the compassion you obviously never developed yourself.
I don't get why you're calling me both pro-life and pro-choice. It's honestly confusing what you're trying to say here. I'm pro-life, and nothing will ever change that, especially not something like having a child who needs extra care. Those are the children who need the most help, as sadly, those are the ones society is most eager to get rid of.
And as a teenager, I genuinely see adoption as something that I would definitely be interested in looking into once I'm older, but there's obviously no way can you reasonably expect me to do anything about that in the present. It's unrealistic and ridiculous.
Last but not least, I assure you, I will never regret speaking up for the lives of children who cannot speak for themselves. This will never be wrong, and I will never be ashamed or sorry for it. If you don't like it, fine, but don't try to convince me that I'm the one in the wrong, and don't try to make me feel bad for it.
God bless, anon. I'll be praying for you.
Iâve been told to kill myself for being pro-life and been told I should have been aborted, as most pro-life advocates have.
But WOW this is probably the worst pro-abort hate anon Iâve ever seen.
Just so you know, anon, adopting kids after I get married has been part of my plan since I was 12.
I volunteer at a pregnancy resource center, where weâve gotten homeless mothers off the streets by paying for their housing until they got jobs and were able to pay for it themselves, and paid medical bills for couples struggling with a difficult pregnancy. I work with women in crisis on the regular, NO SHIT I support universal healthcare and social safety nets.
The worst accusation here, though, is that we would abort a baby with Down Syndrome.
Having several special-needs family members, thatâs literally the type of abortion I am most revolted by. No one should EVER have the ability, much less the right, to intentionally kill a child because they have Down Syndrome. Thatâs disgusting. These are HUMAN BEINGS weâre talking about.
I will be sure to specifically adopt kids with DS, first and foremost to give them the loving home they deserve because theyâre literally people and therefore deserve the same love and care any other child on this planet deserves.
But secondly just to spite you, anon. F*** eugenics.
Anyway if the right to bodily autonomy truly overruled the right to life, my best friend never would have been admitted to a mental hospital after her suicide attempt because "it's her body she can do whatever she wants with it"
My great uncle never would have gotten help for his alcohol addiction because "it's his body he can do whatever he wants with it"
My cousin never would have been sent to the emergency room after he overdosed because "it's his body he can do whatever he wants with it"
I never would have been admitted to the eating disorder treatment facility that saved my life because "it's my body I can do whatever I want with it"
^ None of us wanted help at the point people intervened. I literally thought that exact same way when I was first admitted. I thought it was so unfair that they could tell me what I could and couldn't do with my body, because it's my body. But I came to realize as I recovered that the right to bodily autonomy has never, ever been more important than the right to live, and that's something I am very grateful for, for my sake and for my friend and family members.
If your right to bodily autonomy can't even infringe upon your own right to live, what on Earth makes you think it can infringe upon someone else's?
I rarely talk about this because the welter of deeply personal pain and anger that surges up in the replies, reblogs and even unfollows that inevitably follow my doing so scares me half to death (not to mention the anonymous asks I almost always get immediately after) but, here goes.
I cannot condone and must in conscience always oppose abortion because abortion results in the end of a human life. There is no way around or under this fact, no way to twist this truth, though pro-choice rhetoric does its best. And I always want to stop the argument there because I believe the argument should stop there. Nothing justifies taking the life of another human being. Science (and common sense alone) establishes that the fetus a) is alive and b) is a person. The arguments that claim otherwise- the self-defense arguments, the attempted comparisons of the fetus to parasites, the bodily autonomy argument, the delayed-til-birth personhood argument- are silly and implausible. I call them silly, even though this subject is so serious, because they are all silly in the truest sense of the word. They have no meaning and they inherently contradict each other and even themselves. Do we want to protect this person from having a difficult life or from being unwanted or is this protection not necessary because, in fact, there is no person at all? This is one example among many, but my point is no one can agree and people donât even really bother because there is no true sense to be made. So. To get back to the matter at hand- no situation ever justifies taking a human life. No measure of inconvenience or uncertainty or even fear and terror and anguishing pain ever gives any human being the right to end the life of another. If you do not agree, then thatâs where we have to start but this IS the place to start.
And for a long time I believed it was the place to end the discussion too and so never participated in the discussions because it never DID end there- because pro-life arguments in addition to those of the pro-choice camp spun off into all sorts of tangents that often were true but which were not the point. It is very often true that a woman comes to love the baby she was afraid to have at first; it often happens that a baby whom doctors predict will die or economists predict will live a life of pain and poverty defies the odds and lives to be healthy AND successful. But it is not the point. We cannot defend life only because things might work out or might be easy, because the bad, scary thing MIGHT pass, and great, personal joy might be the result. People have the right to life even when they are unwanted or unhealthy or unloved. People have the right to life over your right to decide whether or not they will enjoy it. To rob them of that, to make a judgment on what they can or cannot endure or what is acceptable and then allow them to live, even to allow them to stay alive because we believe that it will âall work outâ is not our place. We donât know that it will all work out, but we still cannot offer death as a solution. When we do so, we cross a terrible line. We commit a grave evil and injustice that no amount of loving motivations can erase. It isnât complicated, itâs simple. It is terrifyingly, starkly simple and it is the one truth in all of this that matters the most and so it was always the one I clung to as I dodged and ran and twisted my way out of engaging on this topic with either side because it was too painful.
But hereâs the thing. While the truth remains that simple and while it will set us free if we cling to it- no matter who you are or what youâve done or lived through or endured this truth will set you free, I promise, I promise, I promise- Iâve been forced to admit that rhetorically speaking this isnât enough. If I am in the business of trying to change hearts and minds, this canât be my only way of engaging with my fellow human beings. Donât get me wrong. The truth will always come first, it MUST come first and has to be the bedrock of everything I say or I might as well shut the hell up right NOW- but there can be more. Compassion and truth arenât small; they cover great expanses of ground and they are meant to. If I can get myself to say what I feel so oddly tongue-tied about saying in the pain of these kind of discussions, I know it will be better. For me and for anyone reading this, but especially those who disagree.
And so I just want to say to those out there who are prochoice that I know that the concerns and pains that motivate your stance spring from real problems that need real solutions even as I cannot budge on the unconscionableness of abortion as a solution. I will never because I CAN never budge on the fact that abortion is not a solution. It can never be. But the problems you see and want to address deserve solutions and need to be addressed, and I want to incorporate recognizing and responding to those very real needs more in any pro-life arguments I formulate. Women should not be abandoned with a child to raise; women have to be protected and cared for; children should not be abused. I do not have all the solutions, I only know that death cannot be one. So for now, in my effort to broaden the scope of my discussion, all I can say I see your pain and your reasons and I am speaking completely sincerely when I say that my heart goes out to all the women who are affected and will be affected by the new laws in Alabama, Georgia, and Missouri. And I know there will bE effects and that they will not all be pretty. I hope that you are not left to suffer alone; I hope you are met with compassion and love and financial and practical and emotional and spiritual help and support to carry you through this. I am sorry for the terror you might feel or the pain you are in if you are afraid and hurt. I hope that you find the help and comfort and consolation that abortion could never offer youâ because it could not and can never offer you anything except for destruction and more painâ but that you absolutely should receive. I am sorry for your suffering, I am truly, truly sorry, and if it is any consolation- I know it might not be but I offer it anyway- you are in my prayers.
I never post political stuff on here, but this was so articulate and I really appreciate how there was credit given to the opposing viewpoint/an attempt to understand their motivations, especially in the last paragraph. I feel like thatâs whatâs missing when a lot of people discuss this issue. Â
The lines that struck me the most:Â
âAnd so I just want to say to those out there who are prochoice that I know that the concerns and pains that motivate your stance spring from real problems that need real solutions even as I cannot budge on the unconscionableness of abortion as a solution.â
âPeople have the right to life over your right to decide whether or not they will enjoy it.â
âThe Pro-Life Generationâ: Young Women Fight Against Abortion Rights âŠ
You can feel the pain from this author as she struggles to understand why more and more young women are realizing we donât need abortion to be successful and happy.
Behold, a human:
âScienceâ does not âstateâ that anything happens at conception other than a sperm getting into an egg. Are you just lying, or are you really that stupid?
Science makes no claims about when human life begins, it only provides markers for signs of life. Heartbeat, breathing, brain activity, all potential evidence of life and all MUCH later than conception.
The bible, unlike science, does make claims about when life begins. It also definitely doesnât say conception, it says at birth, when a baby draws its first breath.
So all this to say [citation required] for your shit meme
How many times must I inform you guys? Itâs literally fact: âA neutral examination of the evidence merely establishes the onset of a new human life at a scientifically well-defined âmoment of conception,â a conclusion that unequivocally indicates that human embryos from the one-cell stage forward are indeed living individuals of the human species; i.e., human beings.â This is uncontested.
I mean if you pretend that fundie propaganda institutes are scientific in nature I can see how you would think that. Iâll take a respectable source or none at all, none of this shit is science.
Blathering about the âuniquenessâ and âfundamental value of lifeâ is not science. Looking at something through a microscope and seeing that it is tiny multi-celled organism with no distinct organs, no thoughts, no emotions, no memories, that is fact.
Seriously, there is nothing resembling a human at conception. Conception produces a cell. That cell becomes two. Those two become four.
Confirming your own bias is not research. Linking propaganda is not education. Try again.
(This is also all irrelevant in face of the fact that, baby or not, no humanâs rights supercede the bodily autonomy of another. Abortion bans violate human rights.)
You canât just say a well known fact is âpropagandaâ just because it you donât agree with it. I have an abundance of sources. âAt the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new life has begun.â âAlthough life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed.â This is no longer being debated on within the scientific community. The largest recent survey of over 5,000 biologist from 1,000 worldwide institutions revealed that a full 96% agreed with âhuman life begins at conception.â These biologists were self-described as 89% âliberal,â 85% âpro-choice,â and 63% ânon-religious.â  To be alive the following criteria must be met: Cellular organization Growth and development, Metabolism (ability to capture, make, or utilize energy), Homeostasis (ability to maintain an internal equilibrium), Responsive to stimuli, Reproductive capacity, and Contains all of the genetic information needed to control its development for its lifetime. All of this criteria is met at conception.  âEven in the embryonic stage, you were a whole, living member of the species Homo sapiens. You were then, as you are now, a distinct and complete â though, of course, immature â human organism.â âThe predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conceptionâfertilization.  At fertilization, the human being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated zygotic living human organism, a member of the species Homo sapiens, needing only the proper environment in order to grow and develop. The difference between the individual in its adult stage and in its zygotic stage is one of form, not nature. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.â  Even the American College of Pediatricians says human life begins with fertilization. âAfter fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into beingâŠ[this] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, it is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidenceâŠ.âÂ
How many more sources do you need?
@attanoempire
Iâd like you to find us a single non-biased, credible, scientific source (so not a newsletter or a leftwing media outlet) that claims humanity begins at any point other than conception.
I'm reaaaaally not trying to be controversial but idk how to explain to you that me, a Black woman, will always feel less threatened or resentful against a prolife White conservative woman than leftist pro choice feminists who unapologetically support an organization accepting donations to specifically abort Black babies
@princessofalarith
(hopefully you have an account) It's on Live Action Facebook page (the video has been erased from all other social platforms...)
Our investigator called various Planned Parenthoods posing as a racist donor wanting to donate to the killing of a black child. Various faci
This is so genuinely horrifying I felt physically ill listening to it.
PRO-LIFE ANSWERS FOR PRO-CHOICE ARGUMENTS MASTERLIST
[ Source: https://www.epm.org/static/uploads/downloads/Prolife-Answers-excerpt.pdf ]
Due to the text limit, I have to reblog this to fit the rest of the points. Itâs originally in a format thatâs a little easier to read for quick reference, but this was the best way I could get it to fit within the text restrictions on tumbr. LINK TO THE REBLOGGED, FULL POST HERE: http://www.thescienceofapologetics.tumblr.com/tagged/prolife-masterlist
Part One: Arguments Concerning Life, Humanity, and Personhood
1. âIt is uncertain when human life begins; thatâs a religious question that cannot be answered by science.â
1a.) If there is uncertainty about when human life begins, the benefit of the doubt should go to preserving life. 1b.) Medical textbooks and scientific reference works consistently agree that human life begins at conception. 1c.) Some of the worldâs most prominent scientists and physicians testified to a U.S. Senate committee that human life begins at conception. 1d.) Many other prominent scientists and physicians have likewise affirmed with certainty that human life begins at conception. 1e.) The possibility of human cloning does nothing to discredit the fact that all humans conceived in the conventional manner began their lives at conception.
2. âThe fetus is just a part of the pregnant womanâs body, like her tonsils or appendix. You canât seriously believe a frozen embryo is an actual person.â
2a.) A body part is defined by the common genetic code it shares with the rest of its body; the unbornâs genetic code differs from his motherâs. 2b.) The child may die and the mother live, or the mother may die and the child live, proving they are two separate individuals. 2c.) The unborn child takes an active role in his own development, controlling the course of the pregnancy and the time of birth. 2d.) Being inside something is not the same as being part of something. 2e.) Human beings should not be discriminated against because of their place of residence. 2f.) There is substantial scientific reason to believe that frozen embryos are persons and should be granted the same rights as older, larger, and less vulnerable persons.
3. âThe unborn is an embryo or a fetusâjust a simple blob of tissue, a product of conceptionânot a baby. Abortion is terminating a pregnancy, not killing a child.â
3a.) Like toddler and adolescent, the terms embryo and fetus do not refer to nonhumans, but to humans at particular stages of development. 3b.) Semantics affect perceptions, but they do not change realities; a baby is a baby no matter what we call her. 3c.) From the moment of conception, the unborn is not simple, but very complex. 3d.) Prior to the earliest abortions, the unborn already has every body part she will ever have. 3e.) Every abortion stops a beating heart and terminates measurable brain waves. 3f.) Even in the earliest surgical abortions, the unborn child is clearly human in appearance. 3g.) Even before the unborn is obviously human in appearance, she is what she isâa human being. 3h.) No matter how much better it sounds, âterminating a pregnancyâ is still terminating a life.
4. âThe fetus may be alive, but so are eggs and sperm. The fetus is a potential human being, not an actual one; itâs like a blueprint, not a house; an acorn, not an oak tree.â
4a.) The ovum and sperm are each a product of anotherâs body; unlike the conceptus, neither is an independent entity. 4b.) The physical remains after an abortion indicate the end not of a potential life, but of an actual life. 4c.) Something nonhuman does not become human by getting older and bigger; whatever is human must be human from the beginning. 4d.) Comparing preborns and adults to acorns and oaks is dehumanizing and misleading. 4e.) Even if the analogy were valid, scientifically speaking an acorn is simply a little oak tree, just as an embryo is a little person.
5. âThe unborn isnât a person, with meaningful life. Itâs only inches in size and canât even think; itâs less advanced than an animal, and anyway, who says people have a greater right to live than animals?â
5a.) Personhood is properly defined by membership in the human species, not by stage of development within that species. 5b.) Personhood is not a matter of size, skill, or degree of intelligence. 5c.) The unbornâs status should be determined on an objective basis, not on subjective or self-serving definitions of personhood. 5d.) It is a scientific fact that there are thought processes at work in unborn babies. 5e.) If the unbornâs value can be compared to that of an animal, there is no reason not to also compare the value of born people to animals. 5f.) Even if someone believes that people are no better than animals, why would they abhor the killing of young animals, while advocating the killing of young children? 5g.) It is dangerous when people in power are free to determine whether other, less powerful lives are meaningful. 5h.) Arguments against the personhood of the unborn are shrouded in rationalization and denial.
6. âA fetus isnât a person until implantationâŠor until quickening or viability or when it first breathes.â
6a.) Implantation is a gauge of personhood only if location, nutrition, and interfacing with others make us human. 6b.) Quickening is a gauge of personhood only if someoneâs reality or value depends upon being noticed by another. 6c.) Viability is an arbitrary concept. Why not associate personhood with heartbeat, brain waves, or something else? 6d.) The point of viability changes because it depends on technologç not the unborn herself. Eventually babies may be viable from the point of conception. 6e.) In a broad sense, many born people are not viable because they are incapable of surviving without depending on others. 6f.) A childâs âbreathing,â her intake of oxygen, begins long before birth. 6g.) Someoneâs helplessness or dependency should motivate us to protect her, not to destroy her.
7. âObviously life begins at birth. Thatâs why we celebrate birthdays, not conception days, and why we donât have funerals following miscarriages.â
7a.) Our recognition of birthdays is cultural, not scientific. 7b.) Some people do have funerals after a miscarriage. 7c.) Funerals are an expression of our subjective attachment to those who have died, not a measurement of their true worth. 7d.) There is nothing about birth that makes a baby essentially different than he was before birth.
8. âNo one can really know that human life begins before birth.â
8a.) Children know that human life begins before birth. 8b.) Pregnant women know that human life begins before birth. 8c.) Doctors know that human life begins before birth. 8d.) Abortionists know that human life begins before birth. 8e.) Prochoice feminists know that human life begins before birth. 8f.) Society knows that human life begins before birth. 8g.) The media know that human life begins before birth. 8h.) Prochoice advocates know that human life begins before birth. 8i.) If we canât know that human life begins before birth, how can we know whether it begins at birth or later?
Part Two: Arguments Concerning Rights and Fairness
9. âEven if the unborn are human beings, they have fewer rights than the woman. No one should be expected to donate her body as a life-support system for someone else.â
9a.) Once we grant that the unborn are human beings, it should settle the question of their right to live. 9b.) The right to live doesnât increase with age and size; otherwise toddlers and adolescents have less right to live than adults. 9c.) The comparison between a babyâs rights and a motherâs rights is unequal. What is at stake in abortion is the motherâs lifestyle, as opposed to the babyâs life. 9d.) It is reasonable for society to expect an adult to live temporarily with an inconvenience if the only alternative is killing a child.
10. âEvery person has the right to choose. It would be unfair to restrict a womanâs choice by prohibiting abortion.â
10a.) Any civilized society restricts the individualâs freedom to choose whenever that choice would harm an innocent person. 10b.) âFreedom to chooseâ is too vague for meaningful discussion; we must always ask, âFreedom to choose what?â 10c.) People who are prochoice about abortion are often not prochoice about other issues with less at stake. 10d.) The one-time choice of abortion robs someone else of a lifetime of choices and prevents him from ever exercising his rights. 10e.) Everyone is prochoice when it comes to the choices prior to pregnancy and after birth. 10f.) Nearly all violations of human rights have been defended on the grounds of the right to choose.
11. âEvery woman should have control over her own body. Reproductive freedom is a basic right.â
11a.) Abortion assures that 650,000 females each year do not have control over their bodies. 11b.) Not all things done with a personâs body are right, nor should they all be legally protected. 11c.) Prolifers consistently affirm true reproductive rights. 11d.) Even prochoicers must acknowledge that the âright to control oneâs bodyâ argument has no validity if the unborn is a human being. 11e.) Too often âthe right to control my lifeâ becomes the right to hurt and oppress others for my own advantage. 11f.) Control over the body can be exercised to prevent pregnancy in the first place. 11g.) It is demeaning to a womanâs body and self-esteem to regard pregnancy as an unnatural, negative, and âout of controlâ condition.
12. âAbortion is a decision between a woman and her doctor. Itâs no one elseâs business. Everyone has a constitutional right to privacy.â
12a.) The Constitution does not contain a right to privacy. 12b.) Privacy is never an absolute right, but is always governed by other rights. 12c.) The encouragement or assistance of a doctor does not change the nature, consequences, or morality of abortion. 12d.) The father of the child is also responsible for the child and should have a part in this decision. 12e.) The father will often face serious grief and guilt as a result of abortion. Since his life will be significantly affected, shouldnât he have something to say about it?
13. âItâs unfair for an unmarried woman to have to face the embarrassment of pregnancy or the pain of giving up a child for adoption.â
13a.) Pregnancy is not a sin. Society should not condemn and pressure an unmarried mother into abortion, but should help and support her. 13b.) The poor choice of premarital sex is never compensated for by the far worse choice of killing an innocent human being. 13c.) One personâs unfair or embarrassing circumstances do not justify violating the rights of another person. 13d.) Adoption is a fine alternative that avoids the burden of child raising, while saving a life and making a family happy; it is tragic that adoption is so infrequently chosen as an alternative to abortion. 13e.) The reason that adoption may be painful is the same reason that abortion is wrongâa human life is involved.
14. âAbortion rights are fundamental for the advancement of women. They are essential to having equal rights with men.â
14a.) Early feminists were prolife, not prochoice. 14b.) Some active feminists still vigorously oppose abortion. 14c.) Womenâs rights are not inherently linked to the right to abortion. 14d.) The basic premises of the abortion-rights movement are demeaning to women. 14e.) Many of the assumptions that connect womenâs welfare with abortion, the pill, and free sex have proven faulty. 14f.) Some of the abortion-rights strategies assume female incompetence and subject women to ignorance and exploitation. 14g.) Abortion has become the most effective means of sexism ever devised, ridding the world of multitudes of unwanted females.
15. âThe circumstances of many women leave them no choice but to have an abortion.â
15a.) Saying they have no choice is not being prochoice, but proabortion. 15b.) Those who are truly prochoice must present a woman with a number of possible choices instead of just selling the choice of abortion. 15c.) âAbortion or miseryâ is a false portrayal of the options; it keeps women from pursuingâand society from providingâpositive alternatives.
16. âIâm personally against abortion, but Iâm still prochoice. Itâs a legal alternative and we donât have the right to keep it from anyone. Everyoneâs free to believe what they want, but we shouldnât try to impose it on others.â
16a.) To be prochoice about abortion is to be proabortion. 16b.) The only good reason for being personally against abortion is a reason that demands we be against other people choosing to have abortions. 16c.) What is legal is not always right. 16d.) How can we tell people that they are perfectly free to believe abortion is the killing of children but that they are not free to act as if what they believe is really true?
Part Three: Arguments Concerning Social Issues
17. ââEvery child a wanted child.â Itâs unfair to children to bring them into a world where theyâre not wanted.â
17a.) Every child is wanted by someone; there is no such thing as an unwanted child. 17b.) There is a difference between an unwanted pregnancy and an unwanted child. 17c.) âUnwantedâ describes not a condition of the child, but an attitude of adults. 17d.) The problem of unwantedness is a good argument for wanting children, but a poor argument for eliminating them. 17e.) What is most unfair to unwanted children is to kill them.
18. âHaving more unwanted children results in more child abuse.â
18a.) Most abused children were wanted by their parents. 18b.) Child abuse has not decreased since abortion was legalized, but has dramatically increased. 18c.) If children are viewed as expendable before birth, they will be viewed as expendable after birth. 18d.) It is illogical to argue that a child is protected from abuse through abortion since abortion is child abuse.
19. âRestricting abortion would be unfair to the poor and minorities, who need it most.â
19a.) It is not unfair for some people to have less opportunity than others to kill the innocent. 19b.) The rich and white, not the poor and minorities, are most committed to unrestricted abortion. 19c.) Prochoice advocates want the poor and minorities to have abortions, but oppose requirements that abortion risks and alternatives be explained to them. 19d.) Planned Parenthoodâs abortion advocacy was rooted in the eugenics movement and its bias against the mentally and physically handicapped and minorities.
20. âAbortion helps solve the problem of overpopulation and raises the quality of life.â
20a.) The current birthrate in America is less than what is needed to maintain our population level. 20b.) The dramatic decline in our birthrate will have a disturbing economic effect on America. 20c.) Overpopulation is frequently blamed for problems with other causes. 20d.) If there is a population problem that threatens our standard of living, the solution is not to kill off part of the population. 20e.) Sterilization and abortion as cures to overpopulation could eventually lead to mandatory sterilization and abortion. 20f.) The âquality of lifeâ concept is breeding a sense of human expendability that has far-reaching social implications.
21. âEven if abortion were made illegal, there would still be many abortions.â
21a.) That harmful acts against the innocent will take place regardless of the law is a poor argument for having no law. 21b.) The law can guide and educate people to choose better alternatives. 21c.) Laws concerning abortion have significantly influenced whether women choose to have abortions.
22. âThe antiabortion beliefs of the minority shouldnât be imposed on the majority.â
22a.) Major polls clearly indicate that the majority, not the minority, believes that there should be greater restrictions on abortion. 22b.) Many peopleâs apparent agreement with abortion law stems from their ignorance of what the law really is. 22c.) Beliefs that abortion should be restricted are embraced by a majority in each major political party. 22d.) In 1973 the Supreme Court imposed a minority morality on the nation, ignoring the votes of citizens and the decisions of state legislatures.
23. âThe antiabortion position is a religious belief that threatens the vital separation of church and state.â
23a.) Many nonreligious people believe that abortion kills children and that it is wrong. 23b.) Morality must not be rejected just because it is supported by religion. 23c.) America was founded on a moral base dependent upon principles of the Bible and the Christian religion. 23d.) Laws related to church and state were intended to assure freedom for religion, not freedom from religion. 23e.) Religionâs waning influence on our society directly accounts for the moral deterioration threatening our future.
Part Four: Arguments Concerning Health and Safety
24. âIf abortion is made illegal, tens of thousands of women will again die from back-alley and clothes-hanger abortions.â
24a.) For decades prior to its legalization, 90 percent of abortions were done by physicians in their offices, not in back alleys. 24b.) It is not true that tens of thousands of women were dying from illegal abortions before abortion was legalized. 24c.) The history of abortion in Poland invalidates claims that making abortion illegal would bring harm to women. 24d.) Women still die from legal abortions in America. 24e.) If abortion became illegal, abortions would be done with medical equipment, not clothes hangers. 24f.)mWe must not legalize procedures that kill the innocent just to make the killing process less hazardous. 24g.) The central horror of illegal abortion remains the central horror of legal abortion.
25. âAbortion is a safe medical procedureâsafer than full-term pregnancy and childbirth.â
25a.) Abortion is not safer than full-term pregnancy and childbirth. 25b.) Though the chances of a womanâs safe abortion are now greater, the number of suffering women is also greater because of the huge increase in abortions. 25c.) Even if abortion were safer for the mother than childbirth, it would still remain fatal for the innocent child. 25d.) Abortion can produce many serious medical problems. 25e.) Abortion significantly raises the rate of breast cancer. 25f.) The statistics on abortion complications and risks are often understated due to the inadequate means of gathering data. 25g.) The true risks of abortion are rarely explained to women by those who perform abortions.
26. âAbortion is an easy and painless procedure.â
26a.) The various abortion procedures are often both difficult and painful for women. 26b.) Abortion is often difficult and painful for fathers, grandparents, and siblings of the aborted child. 26c.) Abortion is often difficult and painful for clinic workers. 26d.) Abortion is difficult and painful for the unborn child. 26e.) Even if abortion were made easy or painless for everyone, it wouldnât change the bottom-line problem that abortion kills children.
27. âAbortion relieves women of stress and responsibility, and thereby enhances their psychological well-being.â
27a.) Research demonstrates abortionâs adverse psychological effects on women. 27b.) The many postabortion therapy and support groups testify to the reality of abortionâs potentially harmful psychological effects. 27c.) The suicide rate is significantly higher among women who have had abortions than among those who havenât. 27d.) Postabortion syndrome is a diagnosable psychological affliction. 27e.) Many professional studies document the reality of abortionâs adverse psychological consequences on a large number of women. 27f.) Abortion can produce both short- and longer-term psychological damage, especially a sense of personal guilt. 27g.) Most women have not been warned about and are completely unprepared for the psychological consequences of abortion.
28. âAbortion providers are respected medical professionals working in the womanâs best interests.â
28a.) Abortion clinics do not have to maintain the high standards of health, safety, and professionalism required of hospitals. 28b.) Many clinics are in the abortion industry because of the vast amounts of money involved. 28c.) Clinic workers commonly prey on fear, pain, and confusion to manipulate women into getting abortions. 28d.) Clinic workers regularly mislead or deceive women about the nature and development of their babies. 28e.) Abortionists engage in acts so offensive to the public that most media outlets refuse to describe them even in the abortionistâs own words. 28f.) Abortionists, feminists, a past president of the United States, many congressmen, and the Supreme Court have defended partial-birth abortion, one of the most chilling medical atrocities in human history. 28g.) Abortion clinics often exploit the feminist connection, making it appear that their motive is to stand up for women. 28h.) Doctors doing abortions violate the fundamental oaths of the medical profession.
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Part Five: Arguments Concerning the Hard Cases
29. âWhat about a woman whose life is threatened by pregnancy or childbirth?â
29a.) It is an extremely rare case when abortion is required to save the motherâs life. 29b.) When two lives are threatened and only one can be saved, doctors must always save that life. 29c.) Abortion for the motherâs life and abortion for the motherâs health are usually not the same issue. 29d.) Abortion to save the motherâs life was legal before convenience abortion was legalized and would continue to be if abortion were made illegal again.
30. âWhat about a woman whose unborn baby is diagnosed as deformed or handicapped?â
30a.) The doctorâs diagnosis is sometimes wrong. 30b.) The childâs deformity is often minor. 30c.) Medical tests for deformity may cause as many problems as they detect. 30d.) Handicapped children are often happy, always precious, and usually delighted to be alive. 30e.) Handicapped children are not social liabilities, and bright and ânormalâ people are not always social assets. 30f.) Using dehumanizing language may change our thinking, but not the childâs nature or value. 30g.) Our society is hypocritical in its attitude toward handicapped children. 30h.) The adverse psychological effects of abortion are significantly more traumatic for those who abort because of deformity. 30i.) The arguments for killing a handicapped unborn child are valid only if they also apply to killing born people who are handicapped. 30j.) Abortions due to probable handicaps rob the world of unique human beings who would significantly contribute to society. 30k.) Abortions due to imperfections have no logical stopping place; they will lead to designer babies, commercial products to be bred and marketed, leaving other people to be regarded as inferior and disposable.
31. âWhat about a woman who is pregnant due to rape or incest?â
31a.) Pregnancy due to rape is extremely rare, and with proper treatment can be prevented. 31b.) Rape is never the fault of the child; the guilty party not an innocent party should be punished. 31c.) The violence of abortion parallels the violence of rape, 31d.) Abortion does not bring healing to a rape victim. 31e.) A child is a child regardless of the circumstances of his conception. 31f.) What about already-born people who are âproducts of rapeâ? 31g.) All that is true of children conceived in rape is true of those conceived in incest.
Final Thoughts on the Hard Cases
1.) No adverse circumstance for one human being changes the nature and worth of another human being. 2.) Laws must not be built on exceptional cases.
Part Six: Arguments Against the Character of Prolifers
32. âAntiabortionists are so cruel that they insist on showing hideous pictures of dead babies.â
32a.) What is hideous is not the pictures themselves, but the reality they depict. 32b.) Pictures challenge our denial of the horrors of abortion. If something is too horrible to look at, perhaps it is too horrible to condone. 32c.) Nothing could be more relevant to the discussion of something than that which shows what it really is. 32d.) It is the prochoice position, not the prolife position, that is cruel.
33. âProlifers donât care about women, and they donât care about babies once theyâre born. They have no right to speak against abortion unless they are willing to care for these children.â
33a.) Prolifers are actively involved in caring for women in crisis pregnancies and difficult child-raising situations. 33b.) Prolifers are actively involved in caring for unwanted children and the other âdisposable peopleâ in society. 33c.) It is abortion providers who do not provide support for women choosing anything other than abortion.
34. âThe antiabortionists are a bunch of men telling women what to do.â
34a.) There is no substantial difference between men and womenâs views of abortion. 34b.) Some polls suggest that more women than men oppose abortion. 34c.) The great majority of prolife workers are women. 34d.) If men are disqualified from the abortion issue, they should be disqualified on both sides. 34e.) Men are entitled to take a position on abortion. 34f.) There are many more women in prolife organizations than there are in proabortion organizations. 34g.) Of women who have had abortions, far more are prolife activists than pro-choice activists.
35. âAntiabortionists talk about the sanctity of human life, yet they favor capital punishment.â
35a.) Not all prolifers favor capital punishment. 35b.) Capital punishment is rooted in a respect for innocent human life. 35c.) There is a vast difference between punishing a convicted murderer and killing an innocent child.
36. âAntiabortion fanatics break the law, are violent, and bomb abortion clinics.â
36a.) Media coverage of prolife civil disobedience often bears little resemblance to what actually happens. 36b.) Prolife civil disobedience should not be condemned without understanding the reasons behind it. 36c.) Peaceful civil disobedience is consistent with the belief that the unborn are human beings. 36d.) Prolife protests have been remarkably nonviolent, and even when there has been violence, it has often been committed by clinic employees and escorts. 36e.) Abortion clinic bombing and violence are rare, and are neither done nor endorsed by prolife organizations.
37. âThe antiabortionists distort the facts and resort to emotionalism to deceive the public.â
37a.) The facts themselves make abortion an emotional issue. 37b.) It is not the prolife position, but the prochoice position that relies on emotionalism more than truth and logic. 37c.) The prolife position is based on documented facts and empirical evidence, which many prochoice advocates ignore or distort. 37d.) The prochoice movement consistently caricatures and misrepresents prolifers and their agenda. 37e.) The prochoice movement, from its beginnings, has lied to and exploited women, including the âRoeâ of Roe v. Wade and the âDoeâ of Doe v. Bolton.
38. âAntiabortion groups hide behind a profamily facade, while groups such as Planned Parenthood are truly profamily because they assist in family planning.â
38a.) The prochoice movementâs imposition of âfamily planningâ on teenagers has substantially contributed to the actual cause of teen pregnancy. 38b.) Through its opposition to parental notification and consent, Planned Parenthood consistently undermines the value and authority of the family. 38c.) Planned Parenthood makes huge financial profits from persuading people to get abortions. 38d.) Planned Parenthood has been directly involved in the scandals of trafficking baby body parts. 38e.) As demonstrated in the case of Becky Bell, the prochoice movement is willing to distort and exploit family tragedies to promote its agenda. 38f.) Planned Parenthood, the prochoice movement, and the media ignore family tragedies that do not support the prochoice agenda.
Summary Argument
39. âThe last three decades of abortion rights have helped make our society a better place to live.â
39a.) Abortion has left terrible holes in our society. 39b.) Abortion has made us a nation of schizophrenics concerning our children. 39c.) Abortion is a modern holocaust which is breeding unparalleled violence and to which we are accomplices. 39d.) Abortion is taking us in a direction from which we might never return. 39e.) Abortion has ushered in the brave new world of human pesticides. 39f.) Abortion has led us into complete moral subjectivism in which we are prone to justify as ethical whatever it is we want to do.
Case in point.
@prolifeproliberty this might be what youâre looking for!
Alright, weâre going to start a new thread because people just donât know what their local pregnancy centers do for their communities. Pro-lifers, post what your center does to help women and families! Iâll startâŠ
Free pregnancy tests
Free ultrasounds
Education about pregnancy and abortion
Abortion reversal pill
Adoption support
Free prenatal vitamins
Pregnancy classes
Parenting classes
Fatherhood groups
Life skill classes
Financial skills classes
Sexual health education
High school sex ed
Diapers, baby clothes, bottles, formula, and other supplies for post-birth care
Books, blankets
Womenâs clothes
Toiletries, laundry detergent, and other household items
Mentorship programs
Job placement assistance
Referrals and resources for assistance in acquiring insurance, housing, daily necessities
Post-abortive grief counseling for men and women
Network of support for women and their families
Life-long connections
And ours actually has a home that comfortably houses multiple mothers who have no where to go to give them a safe and encouraging place to live until they can get back on their feet.
Hello hello everyone, I wanted to take some time to quickly introduce myself, I am Thia, I am a survivor of the Chinese femicide and the One-Child Policy, which was done away with in 2016. I was adopted back in January of 2004 and have been in the U.S since then. I do not remember much of my birth place, only that I ended up in the orphanage at 6 weeks, which is a little unique as most are placed immediately into an orphanage or killed. I was lucky enough to simply end up in the orphanage, instead of being abandoned in a box or killed off. I have grown up knowing that I survived infanticide, and I have always known that I was left behind by my birth family because of the One-Child Policy, because they wanted a son to guarantee their retirement and carry their name onto the next generation. I had no voice then, I had no one to speak for me, so I want to be the voice to those who cannot speak now.
China has always had a terrible history of infanticide committed against millions of Chinese girls. Some 30 million baby girls were abandoned, drowned, poisoned, left in a box, in an alley, the dumpster, they were left for dead. You name it someone had been driven by desperation to do it. And not only were many killed after birth, so many more where aborted when the technology caught up enough and scans could indicate the sex of the baby. Abortion, legal or not, is painful for the baby, it is cruel and should never be an option to throw around as an alternative because someone does not want a child. Abortion is child murder and there is no other way to word it, there is no softening the blow of what abortion truly is, it is murder.
one-child policy, official program initiated in the late 1970s and early â80s by the central government of China, the purpose of which was
Thank you for speaking out. Your story is so powerful and I am so glad youâre here with us.
Pro-choicers, these are the kinds of people you need to be listening to. Stop pretending that abortion is always a good thing. Itâs not. Historically it has always been about eugenics and oppression. You canât recycle certain types of murder into good things by putting ârightsâ in the same sentence.
Dear pro aborts commenting âgo kill yourselfâ on this post:
Youâre not helping your case.
You are further proving that normalizing abortion desensitizes people to death and brainwashes people into thinking that other humans should only have a right to live if you think they should.
You are proving our points for us.
I just saw an interview in which a woman claimed that pregnancy resource centersâwhich, remember, give free supplies and support to mothers who want their babies and feel like abortion is their only choice even if they donât want oneâare a waste of money, and that all that moneyâyou know, the money that goes to helping women that want their babiesâwould be better off going towards abortions.
You screech and howl about us not caring about women as you vandalize and firebomb our pregnancy crisis centers, you scream at us to kill ourselves while preaching about how caring and kind you are, you cry about ethics when you think that being able to tear off a human beingâs limbs is a fundamental human right.
Yes, I am angry about that. But I still know you have a right to live, and I do love you and pray for you, even as youâre yelling at me.
Of course there are bad pro-life people. There are some bad people in every side in any debate. A few bad people do not debunk an entire position, especially one which is primarily focused on the inherent dignity of human life.
Telling people to kill themselves will never ever be okay, no matter what the circumstances are. It will never solve anything, and it certainly will not help convince people that your side is has the moral high ground.
