theres a "questioning plural" culture blog and its stupid because why in the world would you be questioning plural in the community that tells you to just say your plural anyway even if you are a singlet and if you feel you 'should' be plural then you are like, cmon. and the questioning cdd systems will jsut be told to be endogenic anyway if they arent a system, helps no one
anyway we need an actual questioning system blog that doesnt do all that bullshit and actually helps people rather than say if you want the disorder you can just make it up. i need more people like me to be able to talk about things and get help for it rather than be told misinfo about a serious disorder and told to ruin your mental health more. we also need to get rid of the shame of not having an identity and spread awareness that it isnt just a system thing.
SiW losing her shit over the anti-willoverse to the point she has to make a satire anti endo/willo charlie kirk blog to go against the actual anti willo one is crazyyyyy, makes a guy consider joining
grown ass woman has to use weird ai photos and the same nonsense crap she uses for her other anti endo satire blog anti-lies
and yes im totally convinced its her it sounds exactly like something she would do
dxed system here, for several years now. i came across some of your posts and I’m really confused as to why you, as a singlet, are so invested in syscourse?
You don’t know what it’s like to be a system, much less what it’s like to have DID/OSDD especially. it doesn’t even seem like you know that much about endos. 9 times out of 10 they say that they’re not claiming to have DID. they are only saying that they have headmates. those are 2 very different statements.
It’s more offensive to me as a traumagenic system for singlets to be getting into discourse that you’re not apart of than for someone to say they have more than one guy in their head.
I don’t think it’s that serious honestly and you should do more research on endos, or at the very least stop getting into syscourse like you know anything about it.
"Why are you as an abled person standing up for disabled people"
I find this type of thinking very dangerous because it isolates systems in this issue. I think we should have MORE anti-endo singlets, as ableism is a battle nobody should have to fight alone.
god forbid a singlet struggles and has experiences where they wrongly suspect DID/OSDD and thus become more connected and concerned with the community that way 🙄 (just one of many reasons a singlet may be involved with CDD issues, and my own personal)
Also you don’t have to have a disorder to know what is wrong and right, you just need to make sure you’re educated on the topics. Literally don’t understand anons thinking, god forbid outsiders speak out against harmful actions that prey on minorities. Next anon is going to say cis people shouldn’t vote for trans rights and leave it to the actual trans people to decide.
“I don’t think it’s that serious” anon after they just said it’s more offensive for a singlet to point out ableism than someone mocking their disorder. Idk man I think it is pretty serious, if you care enough to complain anonymously about someone interacting with a community
fellas, did you know alters are like a small part of this disorder (in our experience)
Most of this disorder is the cptsd, panic/anxiety, chronic tension and pain, hypervigilance, memory loss, severe dissociation and depersonalation, depression, rage attacks, and inability to connect with others
but sure, let's pretend systems are only alters and no other symptoms for a second
Lemme ask you, why do you want to be a system?
would it be to be unique?
would it be to have an excuse to do and say things that you would never say?
would it be cool to roleplay as your favorite characters?
like
You can still be unique, be a bad person, and to roleplay without being a system. You know that, right?
"hey guys when you guys say something is for the mentally ill and disabled can you include me in that as well? the mentally ill and disabled and endos if it's not too much trouble thanks"
I wonder if that other anon knows you're a singlet and is referring to you as multiple on purpose. Like similar to misgendering but with the other quality of grammar so it's...misnumbering? As a pro-endo I kind of feel tempted to refer to you as multiple out of spite as a way of messing with you, but then I remember how much I hate being told that I'm trans in denial or an egg and how horrible those things are to say to someone, so I'm not going to call you a system in denial or anything similar because that's really not okay to say to someone. Plurality in the pro-endo framework is something that people should identify as on their own and is not something that should be forced onto others, so I'm sorry that people are treating you that way. Even if you disagree with my opinions on syscourse, I would like to apologize on behalf of how those other people are treating you.
thanks for not insisting im plural, i guess?? 😭
i wouldnt be shocked and it was one of my first thoughts, that theyre just saying that as a way to insist im actually plural, because they want me to be or other reasons. but also nobody actually checks blogs so it could just be them sending mindless hate. not to mention, a system may not want to be referred to as multiple in this context, it may just be one alter running a blog, or they just dont want to be called "owners" plural for whatever reason. so its not even a "spite the singlet who has identity issues" thing, its literally just "im going to disrespect or not even check for your preferences"
you had me in the first half until you said youve wanted to spite me before, i didnt need to know that, that in itself just makes this ask feel weird and like your still trying to spite me but also be the "better endo", not taking that apology for the weird behavior thats perpetuated in your community, sorry if im being mean but i just dont see this any other way when this ask in itself is a break in my boundaries/dni, and youre telling me useless shit i didnt need to know besides the fact i disagree with you. odd, isnt it?
thinking about this again and its so funny because this anon also seems very insecure with their standing in the pro endo community, that they have to come to my asks after seeing another anon and trying to virtue signal that theyre one of the good ones by being honest about being a cruel ass hole. theyre trying so hard to make themself look like the good one and "apologize" for the weirdo endos while also just perpetuating that weird invasive and harmful behavior. what was their whole point
I think it’s just a tad bit weird that endos and “ plural “ defenders like to say that Alters being a symptom of CDDs means that anyone can experience it without the disorder because it’s “ just a symptom and not the disorder in itself “
Because for one, there’s scientific evidence and research as to how alters develop, if there is no fractured states of the brain via extreme dissociation, you are not able to develop alters. yes, it’s a symptom. No, it’s not one that can magically appear out of nowhere. It’s not one you can will into existence. It’s not like things such as migraines where you can experience it without a direct cause/a mental health issue.
Two, it’s incredibly ableist to suggest that something these people struggle with is “ just a symptom that anyone can experience “ and then proceed to completely ignore and dismiss the trouble these people go through because you believe it’s not that serious and that it’s something everyone has on the fucking daily. It waters down a significant part of the disorder for your benefit of having fun and roleplaying in the worst way you can.
[ IMAGE TXT : Jake Doesn’t tolerate Ableism! Endos and similar begone! ]
fuck man i want to be full of love and joy and appreciation but its so fucking hard when you realize everything is steeped in hate and no matter what you like or do someones going to have a negative thing to say for some reason but maybe thats me being stuppid and wishing people could be agreeable i need to kms
top 2 most selfish (pro)endo/radqueer arguments I’ve seen (+ bonus syscourse mention)
long post incoming
endos: “if a system is made to help a child through trauma then why can’t people also use alters as a coping mechanism for other things, sometimes youre just lonely or you need someone else to do the work, why should PwCDDs only be able to do that.” Cough. you are looking at someone’s disorder as strictly a coping mechanism and you think that because you struggle sometimes you deserve this “oh so great and powerful” coping mechanism. Instead of actually working to improve yourself, make friends, and work, you try to crutch on someone else’s disorder and trauma, essentially. Look at this through another disorder, say ocd and compulsions. If someone experiences compulsions, it may be self soothing and a coping mechanism to the person with OCD, but it also causes harm and reinforces the disorder. How we can take this in the way endos treat systems is if someone saw OCD compulsions as strictly a self soothing method and ignored the underlying paranoia, anxiety and other issues that it causes. I don’t want this to seem like I’m saying alters are bad and harmful and need to be fixed, that’s not the case, but to have alters you also need to have the disordered parts of the DISORDER, dissociation, memory loss, CPTSD and trauma responses/flashbacks. This is what endos are ignoring. And it’s extremely selfish of them to only view the “cute” and “quirky” or helpful aspects of someone’s disorder and think they deserve that because they want it and struggle sometimes. They are intentionally ignoring the horrors someone might’ve gone through just so they can “cope and self soothe” in a way that isn’t even natural or helpful for them!!!
radqueers (specifically trans race): “black people used to and still pass as white, how do you view those people, are you racist to them too”. Cough. POC who were white passing did that as a SURVIVAL METHOD. And others in their community would still look down on them and they might be shunned by their communities. Someone may try to pass as white because it helped them avoid slavery, or get access to places and things that the rest of the community were shut off to due to segregation, even now, for what I can say as someone who lives in the US, the environment is still incredibly hostile to POC and works against them, practically forcing them into poverty or prisons, there are still political movements led that are painting black culture as inferior and inherently immoral. Despite passing, people were still under threat of being found out because they were still labeled as black, they would still lose all that they had gained if they were revealed. White passing isn’t just some fun game!!!! These people trying to survive in a world that hates them is not the same as you seeing another culture, thinking it’s cute and quirky, and trying to force yourself into and invade those spaces!!!
(also none of this is directed to the demographic who can actually claim trans race for its original meaning, this post is made with the radqueer idea in mind)
bonus syscourse: “syscourse tag is only for debates. if you don’t want to debate, get out. If your in the discourse tag your DNI is null”. Cough. People literally incapable of reading tags to see posts are actually tagged with tw/cw syscourse and that’s why they’re showing up in syscourse. Also if people don’t want to interact with discourse but label posts as such it’s most likely because they want people who might be triggered by or just don’t want to see discourse posts to be able to block these posts and not see them. People complaining about non debate syscourse tagged posts literally just hate disabled and traumatized people and can’t see past their own selfish interest and ideas to recognize that people will use a tag for different reasons than them and they should be respected!!!
probably could just be simply explained with emotional amnesia or previous emotions being banished to the aether, but one of the things that keeps drawing me back to questioning if I let it is I’ll dissociate, feel extremely tired, more tired than what I might already feel, and just disconnect and then I’ll be the giggler or the “fuck you” guy, and it happened twice today
the plural community wouldn’t exist without systems because that’s literally where the whole frame work comes from, just because your obnoxious about your willogenic headmates and demedecalizing a strictly disordered experience and claiming it’s just another identity thing doesn’t make you some savior of the system community and responsible for all positive movements, if anything the plural community, systems, and questioning or curious singlets are actively being harmed by endos