semi hiatus⛱

antis have ascended to some unknown level of stupid and i just can't keep up anymore

[jamesgriffn-deactivated20181214]

[captainharunanase]

So there are a few pages up as a preview to Hunk’s Story online and the one I found most compelling was this page.

And if you zoom in futher

Once again, for the nth time, Shiro is referred to as a student.

The most likely scenario here is that Shiro must have been a grad student who became a sort of TA for the Garrison near the end of his term and that he switched from the orange uniform to the gray one once he enrolled back into the Garrison.

I’d be safe to assume that when Keith first encountered Shiro at his school it was probably when Shiro had just started his grad program like most kids do when they graduate college–they go back as grad students to further their education and get a Master’s/Doctor’s degree right after getting their Bachelor’s.

It could also explain the difference between him and Adam too because Shiro never says he “teaches” or ever said he was a teacher himself (I think so? I can’t honestly remember), like Adam stated he was when he walked off in the flashback–it could mean Adam is older? Probably started in the Garrison first before Shiro did? Or maybe he finished getting his degrees already and just enrolled back in the Garrison but as a full time Professor? Not too sure but it’s a nice tidbit to learn.

It’s probably why the teacher at Keith’s school, as well as a few other times, Shiro is always regarded as “the youngest pilot of the Garrison to ever break high records” and so on.

It’s almost like Voltron wants people to know Shiro is, himself, a young adult fresh outta college and not some old 40-something geezer antis pretend to claim he is when they try to discredit Sheith and any other shaladin ships.

Not too surprise to once again learn that Shiro was just the oldest of the team and not actually a middle aged man like Coran.

Hunk is precious and there would be no way he’d lie about something like this so of course vld made sure to sly this lil tidbit in to remind people Shiro is a Space Daddy not an actual Space Dad.

Man, first the sheith shirt and now this? Voltron you making it real hard for antis these days while making me hope for sheith in s8.

[coffeeshiro]

So I’m trying to disengage with discourse but this was on my TL this morning and I wanted to share.

So this is comments on Princess Bubblegum from her voice actress on PB’s relationship with Marceline - she states she’s not sure whether it was Kent and Pen (the writers) who told her this or something she came up with herself, but regardless it’s in the official Art of Ooo book so it’s probably safe to be taken as canon.

She states that Marceline first met PB when PB was a kid - presumingly Marceline was either a late teen or young adult. That PB viewed Marceline as an older sister and babysitter and such.

Despite this, they are still canonly together and an amazing canon wlw couple in a kids cartoon.

So don’t let antis get you down, even if sk isn’t canon, ok? :)

Besides, a lot of antis are also Bubb/ine shippers, which is kinda funny and ironic.

[huntypastellance]

The Last Big Meta of Voltron: The New Klancetament: Voltron Season 8 …

Read at your own risk

link submitted by a dear disciple who loves to torture Us

The Klible died & from its anti-Sheith, anti-Allurance & anti-Keith ashes came the Klancetament.

Terrifying.

Horrific.

We demand compensation for the way this meta culturally appropriated yin-yang & used it in a such a stupid way.

[youremarvelous]

tbh tho vld deserves more credit for having a target audience of young boys and using that platform to systematically dismantle toxic masculinity over and over again

[youremarvelous]

these are just some scenes off the top of my head from the new season, and it doesn’t even begin to encapsulate the multitude of healthy messages imbued throughout the entirety of the series.

the show repeatedly conveys that men can talk to their friends about their feelings and be respected and heard. that women are independent agents with intelligence and strength and exist as more than a potential love interest or catalyst to further a man’s narrative. that men can tell their friends and family they love them. that men can cry and be scared and be vulnerable and it’s okay. it doesn’t diminish your strength or worth as a person and it doesn’t make you any less of a hero. 

and then there’s the fact that the man who most closely resembles the archetype of a stereotypical hero in a young male-targeted show is a gay, disabled Japanese man with ptsd. 

whether or not you find the representation to be satisfying, through the lens of their target audience, shiro being the person he is–relationship or no–is hugely important.

is the writing perfect all the time? no. but the vld creators took a (kinda goofy) mecha show from the 80s and built a subtle but beautifully healthy portrayal of masculinity for a target audience of young boys and I think the fandom at large can get so caught up in our own lens that we lose perspective on that.

anyway, I’m just really appreciative, and I can’t wait to watch the show with my nephew when he’s old enough.   

[iota-in-space]

It’s really a shame that antis took this intersting dynamic that Shiro and Keith have and minimized their interactions to “they’re like bros of course they act like that,” and moved on.

Because, whether you ship them or just like them as friends, Shiro and Keith have such a deep bond with each other. They are fundamental to each other’s characters, impossible to talk about one without mention of the other. They’re always there for important moments in the other’s story. Every time Keith pushed Shiro away he just came back insisting that he wanted to help; saying that he’d never give up on Keith. And Keith held onto those words for years. He never gave up on Shiro either. All those times Shiro disappeared or was near death and even with his illness Keith never once gave up, even when Shiro himself seemed to resign to his fate.

Keith never gave up on Shiro when they had to fight either. Even knowing it was a clone, it was still a clone of Shiro, it was still him to Keith. All through that fight he was trying to talk with Shiro, to understand, to help him in anyway he could. And at the very end of that fight Keith still never let go of Shiro. All through the show, their bond is highlighted more than the other paladins. We seen them being vaulnerable and emotional with each other. They have these heartfelt conversations and assuring the other that they’ll be ok. I can’t think of many cartoon shows where two male main characters are like that with the other.

It’s just…astounding to me that antis can take such a beautiful and complex dynamic that Shiro and Keith have and…they completely ignore it, shove it under an umbrella of “brotherly love” and move on. Heck, half the time antis talk about Shiro and Keith it seems ooc. It’s a damn shame. You don’t have to ship two characters to appreciate their story together.

[reachingklantis]

Thank you

Thank you

Thank you

This is the reason why I cannot stand Br0ganes. It isn't even related to shipping sheith. It's absolutely OOC. Take a look at any br0ganes fanart: it typically reduces Keith to a shreiking, poorly behaived child, and Shiro to his dad/tired older bro. It takes away EVERYTHING established in canon, their deep, beautiful relationship and goes "lol brother goals 😍 wrow i totally stare at my brother like that 😍" Even though we RARELY get to see such an intense, loving relationship between two men anywhere in media.

Like....if they want a sibling relationship so bad, Pidge and Matt are right there.

[34choco]

welcome to the voltron fandom where people will call you a pedophile for liking a pairing between a 21 year old and a 26 year old

[discoursecatharsis]

Yo can confirm that some antis are NOT minors. My own ex fucking friend is an anti and she puts minor on her blog when she's actually 23. We had an argument about it but it went nowhere so I told her that "I can't be friend with someone who shit on people and sent them death threats, even to the creators". I blocked her ass. NOT ALL ANTIS ARE MINORS. They might and might not be lying about their age. Be careful.

Wtf?! Antis are actually lying about being minors?? That’s so creepy and messed up.

First of all, they’re deflecting responsibility this way. Legit some of the antis screaming “I”m a minor, don’t talk to me” when they’re the ones picking fights may be damn well into their 20s. Second, unless they’re secretly revealing their age to other antis, for sure there are actual minors following and befriending them, thinking that they’re also a minor when they’re not. That’s some catfishing shit right there, on a fandom level. Wtf, antis?

[multishippers-against-antis]

That is literally catfishing what the fuck??? They claim to be minors and are actually adults??? And they call US pedophilic- that is really low key the behavior of a pedophile or some similar disorders. When you claim to be a minor and then groom and befriend other young minors to do your anti dirty work when you’re really an adult is literally what some pedophiles do. This is also identity fraud.

[antis-delete-your-blogs-please]

That is really gross and nasty on so many levels.

[multishippers-against-antis]

^^^^^^^^

[legendary-discourse]

Why?

Why would the staff suddenly turn around and say Shiro and Keith are brothers when they literally already debunked that theory. They found it laughable.

And from your tweet, clearly you acknowledge that there’s nothing in canon so far to support them actually being brothers (either by blood or adoption). So why are you so desperate for them to be confirmed as brothers?

I’m gonna take a wild stab in the dark and assume it’s probably because you ship(ped) K/lance and you’re butthurt that it’s not going to be canon.

Because if your LGBT ship can’t be canon, then neither can anyone else’s.

I really don’t understand your objection. Surely you want good LGBT rep in the show? Maybe it’ll happen and maybe it won’t, but why are you trying to invalidate the relationship that in canon has the best potential for becoming a healthy LGBT couple?

Clearly, it was never about rep. It was always about k/lance or whatever other ship of yours that she/ith gets in the way of.

[huntypastellance]

OMG, it’s SO unfair that K1ance & Sh@dam didnt get a kiss scene like Bubb1e1ine did!

Why can’t Dreamworks put canon gay in Voltron when Adventure Time, an original show that isn’t restrained by pre-existing material or multiple different companies that own the IP & rights, took EIGHT YEARS (+ how many more years it was in production), TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY NINE EPISODES, A TON OF COMIC BOOKS & EIGHT YEARS OF WILD SUCCESS & MERCHANDISING THAT SAVED CARTOON NETWORK FROM ITS LIVE-ACTION HELL OF SHIT RATINGS, finally got ONE kiss scene after, again EIGHT FUCKING YEARS when Voltron is only 2 years long with 78 episodes with merch sales that did so poorly that the toys got cancelled after only 3 of the paladins were released???

Like, they’re TOTALLY on the same level, so we can TOTALLY compare the two, it’s soooooo unfair that Dreamworks won’t put in gay stuff. Clearly Bex didn’t try hard enough~.

[huntypastellance]

people blew up over adam dying but i've barely seen anybody talk about the implication that the children in hunk's family may have died. it's not even like it's a 'oh well they could still be alive there wasn't an affirmative confirmation that they were dead' thing, that sure as hell didn't stop them from saying ezor and zethrid had died. you'd think they'd be just as, if not more, pissed that the show passively killed off two black/asian children without any fanfare, given how they think.

You know what I saw people mentioning?

“What if Lance’s GRANDPA DIED?!?! HE DIDN’T SHOW UP IN THE ENDING SCENE!!!!”

RIP Hunk, always ignored in favor of Langst.

(Hunk’s small siblings are no match for Lance’s aging elderly abuelo who could have kicked the bucket BEFORE the Galra even invaded.)

[yashirogane]

and with that being said

if you in any way state the show is “pandering to the sheithers”, or you at least admit that the team is showing shiro and keith’s relationship in a romantic light through canon content - thus giving us the possibility of a canon lgbt relationship in the show whether stated or ambiguous - but you continue to ignore it, label them as adoptive/actual brothers and hate on anyone who says otherwise in favour of your own shipping preferences:

please just say you don’t actually care about lgbt rep and that you only care about k/l and leave so we can get it over and done with

[huntylotor]

Why is Lance “bisexual” when he exclusively and aggressively expresses romantic interest in girls, but the SECOND Keith expresses (only vague) interest in one girl he goes straight from “100% flamboyant gay” to “too heterosexual to live” in the fandom’s eyes

[discoursecatharsis]

I'm seeing kl🐜s claim there are legit kl moments in the new character books on the hellsite and on twitter while conveniently ignoring the fact Lance straight up said he loved Allura and admired her several times in it (and it seems like Allura is reciprocating too.) I don't really ship allu/rance but this is getting frustrating. If there was kl moments there, it's one-sided because Lance said friendly things about Keith while Keith talked about himself, Shiro, krolia and BOM. 🤔

They have K/ance goggles on too tight, that’s all.

This reminds me, I saw the funniest exchange on twitter. Antis were praising the writers of one of the recent books, only because she said something like “I wish I had known about Adam sooner because I would’ve mentioned him,” nothing anti-ish really, she seems nice, but of course antis probably think they could use her as an ally to be on their side. 

Anyway an anti was like “(Book writer) is cool and all but what if sheiths do to her what they did to (she-ra storyboarder)?” And the writer replied “I don’t have any ships and also I’m responsible for the ‘nothing was worth Shiro’s pain’ line so” it was so fucking hilarious lol

[huntypastellance]

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[discoursecatharsis]

Holy shit. Please read klancers4sh3ith ‘s tweets on Twitter

https://twitter.com/klancers4sh3ith

klancers4sh3ith, whoever you are, I appreciate you so much and I want to buy you a drink

[huntypastellance]

Holy shit, this is so enlightening…..

And this is despite the whole Shalanonymous thing going down for about a month……there was some insane stuff in that server, but not THIS level of crazy, yeesh. (Probably because only one semi-popular anti was in it & not the more popular antis like ethereal fuckface).

Look at the replies. Dude found tweets from antis (claiming that they never supported shaladin) crowing about how much they LUVVVV sh@nce/she1th porn & replied to them with “Remember this?”.

The pettiness is AMAZING.

[itsmivalin-blog]

Is Sheith [ShiroxKeith] a problematic ship ?

Due to the misinformations and lies some Antis seem to be spreading around.

I wrote this fact-check article about sheith.

Is Sheith [ShiroxKeith] a Problematic Ship ?

[ Tw mention : Pedophilia, incest, child abuse ]

Many people [antis] went ahead and painted the ship between Shiro former leader of voltron currently captain of the Atlas and Keith the former red paladin and current black paladins and leader of voltron

A problematic  [pedophilic/incestuous] ship.

And that leads us to the question, is it really a pedophilic/incestuous  ship ?

• “ Sheith is a pedophilic ship ”

“ Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children or generally children under the age of 13.”

Considering the fact Keith’s age was [18] on season 1, [19] on season 5 and currently [21] on season 6/7 while Shiro is [25] that leaves them with only a 4 years age gap.

So No, it’s not and was never a pedophilic ship by any interpretation of the word as it’s a ship between two legal consenting adults.

• “ Sheith normalize pedophilia cause Shiro met Keith when he was 12! while he was an adult! ”

This is a very common headcanon going around and it’s both timeline inaccurate and wrong.

Shiro and Keith originally had a 6 years age gap.

And JDS described Shiro then as a young adult in his late teens/early twenties pre-kerberos mission.

Shiro met Keith when Keith was around [15/16] not [12].

Keith was as old as pidge when he enrolled into the Galaxy Garrison, a military related academy that most likely doesn’t recruit elementary or middle school children.

While Shiro was around [21/22]

Their relationship pre-kreb was a purely platonic relationship and Shiro was in a full committed relationship on his way to marriage with his s/o then Adam.

• “ Sheith is harmful and homophobic cause it paints Shiro a canonically gay man as a predator / sheith is grooming ”

Again, Shiro was in a fully committed relationship on his way to marriage  with his significant other Adam pre-kerberos mission.

Shiro’s relationship with Keith pre-kreb was a purely platonic relationship with no harmful intents as Shiro simply saw a great potential in a very talented disciplinary case “Keith” who simply needed a bit of guidance.

• “ sheith is incest! They are literally brothers ”

“ Incest /ˈɪnsɛst/ is sexual activity between family members or close relatives. This typically includes sexual activity between people in a consanguineous relationship (blood relations), and sometimes those related by affinity, stepfamily, those related by adoption or marriage ”

It was confirmed by the creators that Keith and Shiro are not related by blood or even adoption or in anyway.

Since they are not related in anyway way.

No, it’s not an incestuous ship.

• “ Shiro adopted Keith !”

• “ Shiro raised Keith ! ”

Is yet another very common headcanon going around. That was not confirmed, mentioned or even hinted on. And was dismissed by the staff.

Aside from the fact you can not adopt a brother, and need to be at least 25 and and healthy since life terminal illness could disqualify you from being an adoptive parent.

Pre-kreb Shiro an unmarried young adult [21/22] with a chronicle muscle disorder and only 3 active years left in his life that he was going to spend them on the Kerberos mission could not have adopt a 15 years old.

Befriending someone younger than you is not equivalent to raising them, Shiro did not raise Keith and they only known each other for only 2 years or so before Shiro took off for the Kerberos mission.

Approximately 2 years are by no means enough time to “raise” someone.

• “ Keith called Shiro his brother several times! It’s incest”

“Shiro you are like a brother to me”

“you are my brother”

Calling someone that is not related to you “your brother” does not make them automatically your sibling.

Many people refer to their best friends as their brother/sister, and that does not mean any future relationship is labeled incest since they are not related and feelings and emotions indeed evolve and are subjected to change.

That aside, the creators never referred to them as brothers but rather as “best friends” and on the other hand that staff said “the brother line is not literal, and not as important as the way it is being said.”

Josh Hamilton went on to state the “you’re my brother” line was equivalent to Keith saying “you’re everything to me”.

• “Sheith is problematic and unhealthy cause it’s power imbalance”

“A power imbalance is the attempt by the perpetrator(s) to use observed or perceived personal or situational characteristics to exert control over the targeted youth’s behavior or limit the victim’s ability to respond or stop their aggression.”

Shiro has not ever harmed or pressured Keith, but rather always vouched for him and his abilities, even believed in him and wanted him to be his successor to lead voltron as the black paladin.

Shiro is currently the capital of the Atlas while Keith is the leader of voltron and the black paladin, and he displayed obvious confident leading actions and qualities  during season 7. So we can safely say they are on an equal footing.

Processing all the facts mentioned above, we can safely say Sheith is NOT a problematic ship. And it’s  not and was never pedophilic or incestuous.

[shalliekeith]

op ur so valid

[arahir]

you're still as gross as shit for shipping sheith, and no amount of condescending bs is going to change my mind, sorry. shiro was in a position of authority of keith when he was a child; keith refers to him as his brother. something not being literally illegal doesn't make it healthy.

[arahir]

hey i went on your ao3 and you have khal drogo/daenerys targaryen dubcon fic where she’s 13 years old the first time they have sex u sure you wanna pick this fight