Huge spn Fandom nerd🌟, deancas otp❤, hate wincest

just strange. like you

[louferrignojrofficial]

the parallels.... (14x02/11x18)

[uxji]

[chilewithcarnage]

[louferrignojrofficial]

okay???!

[tachibanaloki]

[guy-who-exists]

crybaby learns how to swim - subtitled

[fozmeadows]

ALWAYS REBLOG THE EGGSEAL

[fozmeadows]

in times of trouble, eggseal comes to me

speaking words of wisdom:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

egg

[bathylychnops]

@honeyginsen

[thepuppeteer-andthetrashmob]

@slushyseals

[slushyseals]

l’egg bruh brugaaaahhhh

[louferrignojrofficial]

he is so gone for him

[incarnateirony]

What's very quaint, really, is the antis still scratching for hope.

You REALIZE why Jensen talked to Kripke no later than (it was reported in, possibly weeks prior) June 2020 about a spinoff, right? He'd been down about the show since 2019 but something triggered him by Early May-June 2020 to discuss with Kripke.

This is, coincidentally, about a few weeks after he crumbled on the floor with A New Take In The Next Setup, Cas disappeared, and all the scripts were suddenly getting aggressively rewritten.

Jensen didn't secure any kind of licensing until October, and still didn't have the shape of the product, but since end of like april that man was eaten alive and you're still pretending you can't figure out the catalysts, the motivations, anything. It's getting outright pathetic guys.

That was a few weeks after Jensen curled on the floor crying "me too" reflexively offscript in poor quality. It's the exact period he was made to go in to ADR the same point with the obnoxious sniffling. And then he went to talk to Kripke.

Guys, this genuinely isn't rocket science. Even if you aren't one of the people Jensen told his motivations to direct, as some of us or those we know are, there's literally like. Time and events that happened that are relevant to this discussion, and you're not going to be able to troll it away.

Your inability to accept this, your refusal to understand the storyline, your refusal to understand that you're literally nobody but an anon opinion formed on your own biases, that's your shit. Stop trying to make it everyone else's shit.

It is what it is. Welcome to Heller Jensen.

But I am absolutely sure Jensen and Danneel know their intention about than this show better more than a bunch of conservative homophobes in liberal cosplay spewing nonsense on tumblr. And I'm absolutely sure nobody in a paid venue has been told these motivations. (I know of *one* incident where he got real close in a wink wink nudge grin fanart return, but that's not really the same as expounding on his mental and emotional state.)

like, shit, I'll say it. The reason I've known what I known as long as I know was I got passed this shit Dec 2020 second degree from jensen in a private discussion, yall. Like within a month of him locking the licensing so he was comfortable enough to dream and talk about it to friends. How the fuck you think i knew so much. Then the followup data, from the same and other sources. It's jensen, y'all. I don't care what you fucking think. What matters is what Jensen thinks. And lo tho the fandom may bulk project their nonsense at him, he has his own perspective that has been recorded and has driven all of his actions to date so far.

y'all basically been arguing with jensen for 2 years. Remember when I said, the show would be about putting Dean to rest, letting go, moving on? Then the usual spinsters like 2po started crowing because he's actually a wincel and insisted Jensen Loved The Finale It's Not About That At All, before the promo a week later was like LET GO, MOVE ON?

Yeah see. That's because Jensen couldn't sleep. He couldn't let go, he couldn't move on, and Dean's story wasn't done. He was sorry, and they tried to give it (dean, cas, etc) to us.

Like. Fucking verbatim guys. It's time to start coping, because it is, in fact, his motivation that has sculpted the entire show premise, while people who denied that premise have since buried their denials to find new things to try to warp.

[beemovieerotica]

omg so we have 1 seeing dog and 1 blind dog and whenever there's a toy they both want, the seeing dog takes it and just...stands very still. immobile. she KNOWS he will try to wrestle it from her but she has figured out that if she does not squeak it, then he will not find it. leading to this.

"god....grant me the strength to not squeak the squeaky toy"

[beemovieerotica]

[incarnateirony]

You know

Beyond all leaks, all spoilers, all general expected adult media literacy

The funniest part of all of this

is that there are a bunch of people pretending they can't figure out why Dean has plot relevance in a labeled, postered, taglined, interviewed, paneled Romance genre piece.

These same people screamed "SUPERNATURAL ISN'T ABOUT ROMANCE!" as their shield for years. Cool story. Jensen and Danneel even nodded about that. And that was important. But this show is a romance, not a bromance, emphasized several times. So The Winchesters isn't about Bromance. But damn if they keep trying to jog to imagine it'll become that.

We can go on and on about the socials, the rainbow Dean, the Destiel spam, the parallels, any variety of BTS info but at the end of the day it's them refusing, legitimately refusing, to understand they're just getting actively slow-mo bitchslapped back with their own shitty catchphrase.

[incarnateirony]

What an overview.

So let's see what we have with scripthunt now

Wiki leaking but helping lie about the pilot script to incite harassment she could have stopped at any time.

Wigglebox satellite stalking jensen and whatever the fuck that finale script stunt was and being mad 2po and wiki ever released the script that proved I was right and they were lying, which she implied she would have chosen to hide.

2po lying about--well, everything. First the M&G he tried to retaliate when he was busted lying, then just. You know. Lie after lie after lie easily disproven with receipts. Honestly just like. My whole blog vs his whole blog. My receipts vs his unsubstantiated claims. The 5K he conned people out of and then him and wigglebox lied, is a good start. It's been out for days and he still pretends no one responded.

2po's sources are violent antis that actually were threatening to cut hellers at a con for asking heller questions in a Cockles M&G. This is why his retaliation failed. Because his own sources were drunk, rabid and yelling. So his lies got outted.

working with what's basically a 4chan troll using pepe memes as his "source" against me that is actively doxxing people in a revenge quest to find my sources and not even doxxing "the right people." but sure as shit spamming their contact info into people's inboxes and making public allegations. Openly spent their time trying to get a server to hate on Misha. UPDATE: THEY RESPONDED TO LET US KNOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY A REDDIT TROLL.

An ocean of trolls that feel entitled to break historic LGBTQ DONT OUT PEOPLE rules and trying to blame everyone but themselves, including Misha, after using it to drill in more attacks on Misha. (gestures at the last few days of my inbox, and that's just the like 1/4 i replied to.) This, for the record, is the exact talking point Snot Rag kept trying to re-spin in our server (well, one of them.) So yay. You guys got used by a reddit incel to attack a guy.

Grifting tens of thousands of dollars out of fandom "for charity" which actually just lets them cruise gold panel cons, get something signed, and then return equivalent pocket change for the actual investment to the charity. (scripthunt's whole schtick.)

A good deal of that server is banned and on a revenge quest. Sins include harassing users across multiple channels, obsessive sea lioning and trolling for months on end, and trying to hijack server permissions to delete it.

Sneaking socks into multiple servers, not just mine, just general ongoing violation of privacy and trust. Doesn't end at Misha. All reporting back to 2po.

Oh yeah. Just. Excellent folks.

Update:

@louisianefille

That snotrag person messaged me back in March. Not sure when they got banned from the server, but they sent me a link to a blind item that was supposedly about J*red. IDK what they were up to/where they were going with their messages.

[incarnateirony]

reminder

[drulalovescas]

The funniest thing about Supernatural:

Cas: *dies*

Dean: destroyed, broken, on his knees, sobbing, empty shell of a man

Sam: omg that's horrible...anyways

[drulalovescas]

if dean had ever confessed to sam that he was in love with cas, sam would've been the least surprised person on the whole planet

[drulalovescas]

Cas telling Dean his true feelings

Dean "telling" Cas his true feelings

[stonernatural]

Destiel reunion kiss..in 2023…

[snocodill-deactivated20231230]

Ever think about how supernatural was meant to appeal to manly men by having an alcoholic main character who drives a rad car and sleeps with every woman he sees

But like they somehow fucked up and now the majority of their audience are mentally ill gay people

[eepy-pleepy]

👇👇👇

[louferrignojrofficial]

all in the same episode...

[stonelions]

literally been thinking about this post for a year now because like. cas would absolutely do this again at some point. who's just a little guy now dean. who is it.

[astraltrickster]

Periodic reminder that you are not immune to reactionary radicalization through fandom.

We all know the “jokes” about how old bronies either came out as queer or became fascists - except they’re not really jokes, and a lot of the queer ones admit to having been in the pipeline before they came out (some in a way that implies they never totally got out of said pipeline and don’t understand the gravity of it),

GamerGate was an entire right-wing reactionary movement that was - and this is not hyperbole - partially responsible for turning fascism into a “legitimate” position by the American Overton window, composed entirely of people who feared losing their fan spaces,

We’ve had terfs right here on tumblr dot com BRAGGING about how useful fandom is as a recruiting space,

TJLC was a big pipeline for acephobia on this hellsite in particular, when people argued that headcanoning Sherlock as ace was inherently homophobic because it was denying a TOTALLY GONNA BE CANON (while the creators were promising that it wasn’t going to be canon) gay pairing, and puritanical, and just HAVING that headcanon was saying that people COULDN’T ship Johnlock, all in the interest of a “fake” sexuality and “pretending to be oppressed” and oh whoops there you went,

We see people who all but center their fandom activity and identities around figuring out which people in predominantly queer fandom spaces are SECRETLY PEDOPHILES AND GROOMERS, acting consciously or otherwise under the assumption that predominantly queer fandom spaces are just massively infested with them in a way that other spaces are not for SOME reason, who twist the definition of “pedophilia” in these spaces until it covers shipping a 17-year old fictional character with an 18-year old fictional character, or a 30-year old with a 45-year old, or including an autistic character in a ship, and drawing two 17-year old characters kissing constitutes “child porn”, and who unironically say we should bring back the Hays Code and Censorship Is Good Actually And Our Problem Is We Don’t Do It Enough and this often becomes a pipeline to “sex ed is child abuse; people shouldn’t even know what sex is until they turn 18; you need my consent to wear certain outfits in public if I see them as sexually charged, and Pride SHOULD be an assimilationist sideshow for our corporate overlords family-friendly party with no sadness or anger or ESPECIALLY acknowledgement of sex allowed”,

We’ve seen otherwise progressive people defend literal hate symbols in fanart when pushback against the above brand of reactionaries gets corrupted into zero-nuance “it’s us vs. them so anything they don’t like is Good”,

Even outside of those examples some of the most vicious, unapologetic, blatant queerphobic abuse I’ve seen in recent years hasn’t come from right-wingers but from LGBT+ people, dressing their deep, violent, seething hatred for queer people who aren’t exactly like them in a thin veneer of progressive language, who have become so convinced that they’re the main character of the fucking universe that they think writing or enjoying a queer story that doesn’t resonate with them is more queerphobic than sending a queer person who writes or enjoys such a story countless rape and death threats and denying their identity,

We’ve seen these examples again and again and again, and we keep seeing it again and again and again, so I am once again on my knees BEGGING people to recognize that this is not Something That Happens To Other, BAD People, or Something That Happens To People In BAD Fandoms, or Something That Happens To People On The OTHER Side Of Perennial Drama; this is something that CAN happen to you.

These things are the result of the fact that fandom is, by nature, a place of heightened emotion and if you don’t know what to look out for that is very exploitable; you need to know the methods people use to do this, simply Being In The Right Fandoms or Liking The Right Ships is not enough.

So, if you see someone trying to convince you that you have the ONLY valid approach to any specific character, or ship, or show, or whatever, that your ship is activism and your fanfics are praxis, and liking something else or liking the same thing differently is Only For Bad People, that is the single biggest red flag that YOU NEED TO RUN, THEY’RE TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT

[astraltrickster]

Seeing people reblog this with mile-long DNI pages that talk about about “irredeemable media” and “you’re a pedophile if you like XYZ mainstream piece of media and I hate you” and “if you like these things that are bad irl happening in fiction in any context that’s apologism for them in reality and you should be ashamed” and “if you’re okay with consenting adults having weird sex and talking about weird sex with other consenting adults and putting weird sex in appropriately tagged fanfics that means you support rape and pedophilia and bestiality and incest and you’re evil” and “terfs and exclusionists and gatekeepers gtfo BUT combination labels aren’t valid and trans men aren’t really oppressed beyond collateral damage and fuck off if you think they are lol” and doing the biggest facepalm of my life like

👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 ABOUT 👏 YOU 👏

👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 ABOUT 👏 YOU 👏

👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 ABOUT 👏 YOU 👏

👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 ABOUT 👏 YOU 👏

👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 ABOUT 👏 YOU 👏

👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 ABOUT 👏 YOU 👏

👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 ABOUT 👏 YOU 👏

So I sincerely hope, if you’re one of those people reblogging this, you’re taking it as a call to seriously reflect on those beliefs and how you came to hold them, and not just sitting there smugly thinking that when I said “YOU are not immune to this” I meant “YOUR FOLLOWERS may not be immune to this, but YOU are, oh great and glorious Knower of Pure from Irredeemable, holder of the True Correct Media Opinions”

[incarnateirony]

SPN fandom is not unique. This is shit in all fandoms. They try to make the fights seem individual, special and unique, but they’re not. the witnessed fashy tendancies and dialogue of some big accounts happens everywhere. It doesn’t matter if 2po uses a cute TFW image. It doesn’t matter the methods spnscripthunt clutches their pearls to warrant their behavior. Like. Read this shit and onboard it because yall need this lesson WELL BEYOND SUPERNATURAL FANDOM