do u remember when the wider feminist position on gendered sport was that we should abolish it, and that women's accomplishments can be measured side by side (& indeed, neck and neck) with men's? what the fuck happened to that? (*whispering* i know what happened. it was the terf movement.)
literally no feminist ever argued for the abolishment of sex segregation in sports. do you people just think sexual dimorphism isn't real or
Not every sport selects for high testosterone. Some sports have been segregated because when they were mixed women beat men. We also know by now that "sexual dymorphism" isn't actually the main determinant factor for success in sports, money is. And the fact that women always get the short end of the stick when it comes to access to training facilities, finance, and even investigation into what training methods work best, is not a biological issue but rather a systemic social one. Hope this helps.
We absolutely did argue to end sex segregation in sports! I still argue that! It was the popular take on here for a long time! There should be a skill and segregation not a sex based one
And before you say "but then women would never win" the reason we have sex segregation in sports is because men got upset when women beat them. Which happened when they were allowed to compete directly
Not every time but that's because no one wins everytime
But this is something feminists argued for for a long time
Yeah as someone who was there I can confirm abolishing gender segregation in sports was The Feminist Stance for years and it ONLY switched when TERFs and radfems decided to take "women are weaker than men" and make it ~progressive~ so they can keep their rancid racism, transphobia, and intersexism train going. Growing up I remember arguing with my step-dad over this very topic in like 2005. If you went back to the mid-aughts and insisted to a room full of feminists that we have to keep women's sports separate because men have biological advantages over us poor weak females you'd get labeled a conservative and promptly shown the door. If they were feeling kind that day, anyway.
The idea that "gender segregated sports are good actually" is VERY NEW and you should never forget that it's a massive step backwards that goes against everything feminisim was building towards. The argument was very much "women are just as good and often BETTER than men at sports and the only reason we're kept separate is because the patriarchy knows that and wants to deny us power and acclaim we deserve" and we should really go back to that for everyone's sake. Like Katie Ledecky is so good she can't even practice around the guys because she destroys their self-confidence, we do not need separate categories for men and women. All it does it make women's sports get viewed and treated as lesser in every conceivable way so a bunch of rich, misogynistic dudes don't have to worry about their players losing motivation when a girl beats them at the only thing they're good at.
Anyway fuck TERFs, SWERFs, and radfems, I'm sick of seeing things that were like basic feminist stances(mixed gender sports, free the nipple) being rewritten for the sake of bitter neo-conservative cis perisex white women who wouldn't know an actual progressive talking point if it punched them in the fucking face.
