Breaking News: The guy who always wins his bets wins another bet!
Aventurine now outranks Pearl, who runs a planet. So can we please put the "he's powerless" claims to bed?
Every time any form of interaction between Aventurine and the IPC gets brought up in the game, I just grit my teeth now, because it inevitably revives the (literally) years-long debate: "Aventurine never wanted to join the IPC!" "Aventurine is a slave and has to stay in the IPC or they'll kill him!" "Aventurine was going to be executed for breaking his cornerstone!" "Aventurine hates the IPC!"
Saveeeee meeeee pleaseeeee.
I just don't know how the game can continually drop stuff like this:
This is, in fact, Jade telling Aventurine he can quit the IPC. At least 40% of this fanbase owed Jade an apology yesterday.
Yet the fandom can still struggle so much to understand that Aventurine is not the faultless victim that people seem to so dearly want him to be.
We not only now have in-game confirmation that Aventurine's after Oswaldo Schneider, but we even have confirmation that the entire Strategic Investment Department is after Oswaldo Schneider, which means that Topaz, Jade, and the other Stonehearts, are, in fact, Aventurine's genuine allies. He's not "using" the IPC to achieve his personal vendetta without his coworkers' knowledge--his personal vendetta is a standing Strategic Investment Department agenda item. They are all drinking the Hateraid together.
Aventurine's exactly where he (thinks) he needs to be right now.
Accumulating power through his employment with the IPC is not only what Aventurine originally wanted long ago when he got himself caught for the desert scheme--it's exactly what he wants right now, because everything in the Strategic Investment Department's plans aligns perfectly to his individual goals. Aventurine bet he'd get a promotion following Penacony because he wanted one. (Were we really out here thinking that the guy who always wins his bets would bet on something he didn't want? 😭)
Furthermore, this new SP description confirms that Aventurine was never at risk of execution for breaking his cornerstone. I still have no idea why people ran away with that idea when both Aventurine and the Myriad Celestia video itself confirm the only actual punishment on the table was losing his power:
Butttttt even if execution was an option they were putting on the scales, Aventurine already knew the outcome of the decision before the votes were ever cast. Aventurine wasn't in any danger, even from the start, because he already knew Diamond would decide in his favor:
Just as Aventurine said all the way back in 2.1, Diamond is explicitly a "ends justify the means" kind of person, and he acted exactly as Aventurine predicted, granting him a reward for his stunt in Penacony rather than any form of punishment. Aventurine knows the people he's working with. He knows the system and can play it like a fiddle. He's not Aventurine of STRATAGEMS for no reason, come onnnnn people. In this high-stakes game called life, the IPC is Aventurine's "hotel on Broadway," providing him everything he needs--it's extremely unlikely he'll be leaving them any time soon.
And this just continues to confound and frustrate people when it comes to talking about his character. Over and over again, it's "Aventurine isn't like the IPC; he wouldn't do the kinds of things they stand for!" or "He's only there to get revenge; he hates everything they do and doesn't support their colonizer land-grabs at all!"
But he has.
His primary role is in serving the Ten Stonehearts' "asset liquidation" function--that is, overthrowing anyone who fails to comply with the IPC's plans. He has murdered people specifically for the IPC; it's right there in his character story! D;
We had an entire subplot in Penacony about the noble struggle of the native Penaconians who gave their literal lives to free their planet from the tyranny of the IPC--and Aventurine went in and deliberately took that freedom away again. He has never expressed even the slightest regret for rewinding the clock on the centuries-long revolution that Hanunue and Mikhail died for. He effectively did to Penacony exactly what was done to his own planet and then got rewarded for it.
Aventurine is every bit as much of an IPC lapdog as any other member of the Ten Stonehearts--even less empathetic than some (Pearl, at least)--and has never claimed to be anything else.
In fact, the game goes out of its way to try to hammer this home by often refusing to let the Trailblazer respond to Aventurine in anything but a vaguely standoffish manner, repeatedly calling him out for being with the IPC--despite Trailblazer managing to befriend everyone else and be perfectly cordial with former enemies like Sunday, Skott, and Topaz. The game drills it into our heads constantly that, at least until my boy Sugilite Diamond drops, Aventurine is the IPC poster boy.
And people just can't stomach that, so they keep inventing this alternative version of him who is more sympathetic, less responsible for his own actions, who never meant to join the IPC, or who has no choice in his morally questionable schemes against others. It's big bad Jade's fault. It's fate's fault. It's anyone but Aventurine's fault.
But that's just... not the point of this character...
From the very beginning, all the way back to his days in the desert, one of the central aspects of Aventurine's character is the need to survive, because he carries the legacy and hopes of not only his entire clan but also specifically of his mother and sister, who died to preserve his life and believed that he would bring their people prosperity one day. Even if "their people" is now only him, the struggle to not end up squandering what his family bled and died for has haunted Aventurine's narrative from the time he was tiny.
Despite how much he has personally wavered--even clearly wanting to give up--Aventurine's story is, at its core, about living on no matter the cost. And the truth is that sometimes "the cost" of Aventurine's survival is other people's lives. More than 30 people went into the death maze when Aventurine was a slave, and only Aventurine came out, because when push comes to shove, he has to endure. Even while hoping it will happen, he can't allow himself to die a meaningless death or simply fade into obscurity. He's got to do his family proud.
First that meant getting into the IPC to try to bring them resources and aid. And then, failing that, now it (at least partially) means capitalizing on the convenient goal of the Strategic Investment Department to get one up on Oswaldo Schneider. It means doing everything he can to amass more wealth, more power, and more authority to fortify his own position. And it might even mean stabbing people in the back, if that truly becomes the only option.
(I'm actually inclined to think that Aventurine is rather more loyal than he paints himself and is unlikely to stab anyone in the back if he could absolutely avoid it, but if there was truly no other way to keep going...)
Of course, it's impossible to really judge Aventurine for any of this!
Everyone wants to survive, everyone does everything in their power to preserve themselves when things get ugly. The intention of gaining wealth and power to help family and allies is a noble quest. Revenge on a bad person is usually treated as justified in fiction, so going after Oswaldo is viewed very positively by the players.
But where is the line?
At what moment does one's desire for power, wealth, material comforts, and even revenge exceed the realm of nobility and become greed? Can gold gained by evil means ever be truly clean? If you're seeking riches for a good reason but still trampling over the less fortunate to get them, can your "good reason" ever really be justified?
In your quest to survive, to thrive, to be avenged, what--and who--are you willing to sacrifice?
That's the point of this character.
Aventurine has always been a walking contradiction: The victim who now helps victimize others, the colonized who now helps colonize, the eternal winner who has lost everything, with pockets full of money but with nothing worth cherishing, wanting to die and yet clinging to life.
He entire role in the story is to present us with a nuanced picture of the IPC's impact on the HSR universe:
Unlike Topaz whose conscience is still (mostly) clear (perhaps only by sheer force of will at this point), Aventurine is fully aware that the IPC is evil. He's not under any illusion that they're actually a force of good for the universe. He doesn't buy the "We help poor planets that can't help themselves" propaganda in the slightest, and he's made it clear that he doesn't actually approve of the methods some of his own coworkers (namely Opal) will stoop to. He thinks the IPC are pretty shitty people, and doesn't reserve that opinion just for Oswaldo Schneider.
But he also contributes to the system knowing it is fundamentally evil.
He willingly joined the organization that contributed to his sister's death. He willingly helps undermine planets' freedoms the same way his own was oppressed. While people continue to struggle to survive across the universe, Aventurine takes the "meaningless" wealth he's amassed and blows it on million dollar perfume and pink diamonds.
He lives the polar opposite life he had in his childhood: Now he has otherworldly strength, now he has riches, now he has every comfort imaginable, now he has a pseudo-mother figure and a pseudo-sister figure, so he's never alone... Now he is needed, now he is successful, now his blessing serves its purpose and actually helps him advance, now he can pursue a goal of getting justice for his people again...
Everything Aventurine currently aiming for, he can get from the IPC. So why wouldn't he be there willingly?
(Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying Aventurine likes the IPC. He's never claimed to be genuinely loyal to them, never seemed like he particularly enjoys his job, and even in the recent description of the SP talks about having to "force a smile" for the camera. He's not under any illusions that the IPC is the coolest, bestest, greatest company to work for ever. But he stays because, in his mind, the benefits outweigh the small, small cost of his morals. Maybe he thinks he already lost those long ago, so there's no morals left for him to lose anyway.)
It's not actually a healthy situation. The IPC is probably one of the worst possible places in the universe for him to be. They definitely contributed to his genuine desire for suicide in Penacony, and the cognitive dissonance that working for the same company that left your family to die would bring with it would be staggering.
But being a "bad victim" is the point. Being willing to bed down with the bad guys for personal gain is the point. We're supposed to recognize Aventurine's willingness (which is not the same thing as eagerness) to stain his own hands, and even as we sympathize with his motives--protecting himself, treasuring the legacy of his family by valuing his own life more, seizing Oswaldo Schneider's power and influence--we should recognize that the situation is not so easily labelled black and white, that the Strategic Investment Department being better than the Marketing Development Department doesn't make them good people--that having noble intentions does not always confirm the ends will justify the means.
I'm not sure how many more times the devs have to stamp "I-P-C" on Aventurine's forehead before people will start to finally entertain the idea that he's not a "hapless prisoner who would surely never do bad things to other people if the meanies weren't forcing him to." He's not a good person or a bad person, he's just A person--one who has helped the Trailblaze but also one who has done and will keep doing terrible things if that's what it takes to ensure his own survival and success.
I can't believe that we're like three years in and I'm still begging people to let the morally grey characters be actually morally grey. 😭
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One thing that I wish this fandom would acknowledge/discuss more is the fact that a majority of the Chrysos Heirs are in fact religious. As it's pretty fascinating to actually dig into.
Aglaea, Castorice, Tribios, and Hyacine are all straight up priests. Each of them being part of different "churches" at that. The fact that all of them are, for the most part, pretty casual and private about their beliefs does not change that fact.
Cyrene was also a priest, though her exact situation makes her position on the topic more complicated. She was absolutely a firm believer for a time but whether or not she still is is debatable.
Phainon is in a similar position as Cyrene. He spent so long firmly believing that a "savior" would descend from the heavens to bring salvation to Amphoreus, and by extension him. Yet in the same breadth he hates his creator and everything it represents.
Mydei is also in a funny position but not because his faith has been shaken. More so because he is a firm believer in the "old testament" of Castrum Kremnos as it were and hates the "modern day" interpretation of the tenants of Strife.
While pondering this, I initially wanted to say Cipher isn't religious at all. But then I thought about it some more. She is(was?) a firm believer that those with golden blood are the "chosen saviors" as it were. A huge part of her self-hatred stems from the fact that she considers herself unworthy of being one of those "chosen heroes" IE is stricken by religious guilt.
Anaxa is the atheist among them. No more needs to be said on that and is pretty self explanatory.
Cerydra, I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say she's an atheist as well. However she also has a strong "humanity first" mentality and will happily shun the Gods when she believes they do more harm than good.
The only one I am at a complete loss about is Hysilens. As she is the "daughter" of one of Amphoreus's Gods and that makes her feelings on the matter the most unclear out of everyone. Not to mention the culture of the sea sirens was so vastly different from that of land dwellers. With her I can just as easily see her views on beliefs going either way.
I would love to hear other people's thoughts on this topic.
there's a really cool subset of aventurine fans on twitter who claim to be critical of aventurine's complicity in the ipc's exploitation and colonization process, but when i wander onto the scene and actually talk about it and don't sugarcoat his personal selfish desires for wealth (because wealth = safety and stability in this world), they start screaming and kicking and crying. so i've been having to fight for my life these past couple days
like. yeah, aventurine's employment with the ipc is more so a form of indentured servitude, but you guys really think the ipc can contain that man? he's too fucking smart for that. if a large part of him did not enjoy the lifestyle this gilded cage offers, he wouldn't be there. people seriously want me to believe that aventurine is not resourceful or capable enough to concoct an elaborate scheme to break his golden shackles and vanish into less than a blip on the ipc's radar. if you ask me, actually, there's a damn good chance that his grand "death" on penacony was one such scheme, but he ended up changing his mind in the heat of the moment for whatever reason
and i empathize with aventurine's desire to be wealthy (aka, SAFE). after everything he's been through?? i nearly feel inclined to say that he deserves it. also, part of his motivation for securing wealth and power was to try to help the avgin rebuild, which is admirable. use the resources of the cosmic monopoly that destroyed their home to rebuild. but people have got to learn to admit and sit with the fact that he did just want wealth for his own sake, too
but none of this changes the fact that he maintains his newfound security in one of the most immoral ways possible. he knows firsthand how the ipc tears families and communities and local cultures apart. we know he feels guilt for his participation in the process. but he looks aside and dissociates himself from that guilt, and he continues to perpetuate the cycle of exploitation because the alternative is giving up everything he has and returning to a life defined by struggle. and again, it's hard to fully hold this against him when you consider how much he's been through. if you throw in the fact that he easily reads as having DID and interpret the "future" apparition as another person living in his brain instead of a mere representation of a concept, that adds a whole other layer of complexity to the way he seems stuck in place
we can understand and empathize with the way he seems to be in a cycle of imprisonment... while also recognizing that he is perpetuating another cycle of exploitation, and that he IS capable of shattering the former cycle, but doesn't because he is comfortable in this particular cage and afraid of what waits for him outside of it. and we can also empathize with that!!!! we can ALSO acknowledge that he is underprivileged when directly compared to his fellow stonehearts, but let's stop pretending that the threat of execution is unique to him. stoneheart is not a job anyone gets to quit or retire from. the only ipc-recognized forms of escape are death on-field or execution (or possibly memory wiping à la scp amnestics? but that one's just pure speculation). what's actually unique to aventurine is the fact that over half of his coworkers are chomping at the bit for any excuse to shove him onto the execution podium, so his position is much more precarious than theirs
people are allowed to talk about the fucked up facets of his character. we shouldn't have to limit our discussions to what's easily empathized with because certain people can't tolerate anything less than 100% glazing. aventurine is a complicated character in a very unique, complicated position. if you actually want to understand him, you're going to have to get used to balancing several contradictory and uncomfortable truths about him. or you can sit and defang his moral grayness and turn him into a "Perfect Victim" i guess because #dowhateveryouwantforever but don't get mad when i say that's mischaracterization
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