#agent ross

[agentrossnumber1fan]

HAPPY PRIDE MONTH 🥳

[midnightcreator12]

....So, Killing Micah Wasn't Where John Slipped Up

Small disclaimer! I am making this with very limited knowledge of the first game. I know the broad strokes of events but i have not played it yet (tho i do plan to, just waiting for a sale)

So, I know everyone says John put a target back on himself when he killed Micah. But I just finished that mission+the end credits and I dont think killing Micah is where he fucked up.

I think a combination of letting Dutch walk away and taking the Blackwater stash was where he messed up.

Because I do think Micah was setting Dutch up. Micah is shown to be petty, but he also wanted that Blackwater stash. So, two birds, he can get Dutch to give him that money while also tipping off the law to where Dutch is, maybe bargaining for his own freedom as well for the intel.

Except Sadie, John and Charles corner Cleet and get there first.

During the end clips, Ross sends his 2nd into the shed and the man comes back and shrugs.

No way in hell he sent him in to clear it. Not with how casually the un-named fellow strolled in. So, either they were looking for Dutch or the money. Dutch is more likely, it's been so long they likely wrote the money off as gone forever.

So Ross starts retracing his steps. We see him returning to places the Van Der Linde Gang had been

So it's not unreasonable to think they investigated Blackwater. And John bought Beecher Hope under his actual name, a name that is 100% in the records of Sisika and someone absolutely noted he was arrested for robbing a bank with the Van Der Linde Gang (plus the fact Ross saw John in the Clements Point Camp)

So, Ross is looking around and sees a John Marston bought property in the area, property he was able to suddenly pay off with a large amount of money that seemingly appeared out of nowhere.

I think, from Ross' perspective, he thought John was working with Dutch again. So he plans to kidnap Abigale and Jack and make John take him to Dutch. Becasue lets face it, most of the gang weren't as important for the Pinkertons to snag. They were primarily after Dutch, Hosea and Arthur.

But Ross probably figures out real quick that John actually hasnt been working with Dutch so now he has a new issue. The risk of John doing the job, getting his family back and then telling folks that the government held his family hostage, during a time when whipping folks into an uproar was very, very easy (...they were all board as hell, imo)

And thats when Ross seals Johns fate. Because no matter what John does or says to anyone, Ross is going to make sure he doesn't live long after he has Dutch.

If John had left the money, or shot Dutch, or, at least, kept making payment in the same pattern as he had been. Or, hell, just buy the ranch under Jim Milton, Ross never would have found him, imo. Ross didnt give a damn about Micah being dead and Micah being dead was not the provable snowball that ended with John being shot to hell.

(.....also I need a 3rd game where Jack reunites with the handful of gang members left and has a better ending, Rockstar canNOT keep ripping my heart out like this!)

[baxs-tblr]

Something that sucks about the RDR/RDR2 fandom is that when you try to talk about the questionable morality and hypocrisy of the Pinkertons, Bureau of Investigations, ect. people always shout "Oh, so you think the crimes the Van Der Linde gang committed were okay?"

No, but what about the crimes Milton and Ross committed? 🤨

[dopamine-the-superwholock-gang]

This scene isn't talked about enough (especially w/ the context of Rdr2)

First confrontation: Ross walks up to (&arthur) when his back is turned at a river while (not him but Arthur is) fishing, treating their doom

Second/final: Jack walks up to Ross when his back is turned at a river while fishing hunting, and dooms Ross to his death

The scences are parallels and reversing the roles of each character. I love how RockStar has so much attention to detail and intentionally for everything in RDR(1&2)

And in the background of the rdr1 scene there is a doe/deer, possibly symbolizing his parents or Arthur

[thatdootdevice]

Agents Ross and Milton, and John!!

I just needed Ross for smth then decided to js draw Milton too

Just realised i gave Ross and John the same chest marking by accident? LOL

[gremlin-boah]

Look what misinformation was spread in your absense

Pfff. what?

well okay

[hotcupofdragons]

me @ marvel after that secret invasion ending

[ventismfsblog]

please Marvel let these two meet

do it for the gays