Many people are hating on Eurylochus because of his actions, but if you do, you probably haven’t got a good analysis on his character and/or you just want to hop on the hate train because you have nothing else to do. There are characters who have done much worse than him. (ie. Calypso, a literal abuser)
First of all, I do NOT get Eurylochus hate. It just doesn’t make sense to hate him. Sure he made mistakes, but so did Odysseus. Have I seen any hate to Odysseus? No, I haven’t. Not understanding Eurylochus is absolutely not a reason to hate him.
In ‘Luck Runs Out’, we see how Eurylochus is feeling about the events happening currently/what could happen/what happened already. We can see that he is kind of nervous. The crew just lost Polites + a few others. Everyone is still shook up from the cyclops. Polites was not just Odysseus’ best friend, he was probably very friendly with the crew, so when he died, Eurylochus + the crew were probably upset. Eurylochus doesn’t want any more lives to end and that they shouldn’t take risks. The crew always agrees with Eurylochus, Odysseus tells him to not disagree and always be devout.
Next, the wind bag thing. This is why many people hate Eurylochus and it doesn’t make sense. “o-o-oh but he killed many people when he opened it!” Well, sorry to tell you this, but since Odysseus blinded Polyphemus, Poseidon was definitely going to attack the ships anyway. In ‘Ruthlessness’, does Poseidon mention ANYTHING about opening the wind bag? No! He’s only attacking because Odysseus had blinded his son, which is valid. So, technically, it was not Eurylochus’ fault. In ‘Keep Your Friends Close’ who are the first members of the crew to hear about the wind bag? Perimedes and Elpenor. Not Eurylochus. When Eurylochus opened the bag, do you think he knew what was inside? Probably not! In Puppeteer, Eurylochus wanted to tell Odysseus about the wind bag as soon as he could, but Odysseus waved him off, saying that it could wait. In Scylla, Eurylochus obviously feels guilty that he opened the bag, as he did apologize.
The crew-turned-into-pigs-thing. Eurylochus knew Circe was a clever witch, he SAW her turn the men to pigs. He knew she was powerful and didn’t want to take risks around her. Eurylochus wanted to leave because he didn’t want Odysseus to die. Beating Circe was difficult and Eury didn’t want his brother in law to turn into bacon. Eurylochus was being realistic and didn’t want to take risks, let’s be honest.
Let’s talk about the mutiny. The crew was tired of Odysseus being captain and all of his decisions. Since Eurylochus was the voice of the crew, they were going to listen to him. They were starving and tired. If you were on the water for 12 years with almost zero food, you’d be starving too. Put yourself in the shoes of Eurylochus and the crew. You would want to find the first island with food, right? Even when Perimedes stabbed Odysseus, the crew let Ody live and Eurylochus was nice enough, even after getting mad at Odysseus, to stay by his side while unconscious.
Now here’s the other big part. The cows. They were starving and they knew they weren’t going to make it home. No, it’s not Eurylochus’ fault the whole crew is dead, and it’s not Odysseus’ either. The crew basically just gave up and they knew that the cows belonged to Helios, as Odysseus said. The act was super suicidal and it basically showed how the crew gave up from going home. “‘but we’ll die’ oh and whose fault is that?” I’m TIRED of people saying something like that. THE CREW KNEW THE CATTLE WERE IMMORTAL‼️ and if you were on the sea for 12 years, I don’t think that you’d be able to go that long without food. If you can, cool. Good for you. Anyways, they also spent years running away from the wrath of Poseidon, so it’s understandable why they gave up. They are humans, not gods, after all.
In conclusion, Eurylochus and the crew don’t deserve the hate they get. If you say “I’d rather forgive Calypso or Antinous rather than forgive Eurylochus and the crew”, are you serious? You’d rather forgive an abuser and a whatever you’d classify Antinous as than a starving man?? Some people like that are kind of stupid. (no offense to anyone, just had to rage a bit) EURYLOCHUS, THEY WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER MAKE ME HATE YOU!!
thinking about the fact that i’m up at 3am writing about two 30 something year old men waxing poetic to each other when i could be sleeping. or job hunting.
hello and welcome to my Annie Brain Rots On Main post. I hope this is a series of only one (1) post but the next few months before obx s3 are gonna be long so who knows how many think pieces you’ll have to endure.
anyway, last night, somewhere in between simultaneous breakdowns with @falseungodlyhours and @alphinias, I started thinking more about s3’s arc and what conclusions we can draw from s1 and s2. stick with me as I word vomit through my theory (also be warned that i mention some bts spoilers for s3 in here)
s1 is John B centric. I know that he is still the main character even in s2, but s2 does not revolve around him in the same way s1 does. the main storyline in s1 is the Pogues rallying around John B to help him through a conflict that involves his family (I’m wording this weirdly to keep it general because it’s going to be a recurring theme lmao). the conflict revolves around his dad being lost at sea, and most of the main characters are tied up in this conflict whether they are trying to help John B (the Pogues, Sarah) or trying to hinder his search (Ward). and, on top of that, last night i got to thinking how much of John B’s story paralleled his father’s.
first off, it only takes an episode for the show to establish that John B is on the search for his dad, but none of the Pogues really believe he’ll find him. Kiara is the only one who even pretends to play into it, but it’s clearly something she’s only doing out of guilt and she believes that Big John is most likely dead. So - John B is on the search for something, and the people closest to him don’t believe he’ll find it. Big John is on the search for the gold, and John B doesn’t believe he’ll find it. you see what I’m saying? by some miracle and against all odds, both Rutledge men find something, but not exactly what they were looking for. Big John finds the Royal Merchant, but not the gold. John B finds the gold, but not his father. then, immediately after their big discoveries, both of them are nearly killed by Ward Cameron. The ensuing events are actually almost exactly the same: following the confrontation with Ward, they both very nearly die, get lost at sea, are declared dead, but actually survive and escape to a Caribbean island. AND THEN, despite being alive, neither of them let their loved ones know right away. Big John takes far longer to get in contact, but even John B waits to contact the pogues for a month a day ? how does time work in the obx a while. there are probably more parallels I’m missing but the point is John B’s storyline paralleled his dad.
then, we end up in s2, and the driving force in s2 is Pope. with their backs against the wall and shit on the line, the Pogues rally around Pope to help him through a conflict that involves his family (see what I said about recurring theme. i promise i’m only kind of crazy.) Pope’s conflict has to do with Denmark Tanny, and protecting his legacy. once again, most of the main characters in s2 are entangled in this conflict, with the Pogues helping Pope, and Limbrey, Renfield, and Rafe trying to stop him. and, once again, there are parallels between Pope and Denmark’s storylines.
first and foremost, the central antagonist in both Denmark and Pope’s storyline is a Limbrey. Captain Limbrey is the slave holder who won’t free Denmark’s wife and daughter, and Carla Limbrey is trying to steal the treasure that belongs to Pope’s family. The Limbreys are both categorized by their greed, their wrath, and their willingness to do anything to get what they want. In the immortal words of Kiara Carrera, “it was a Limbrey stealing shit again.” In both cases, Denmark and Pope are out for something much more important than money – Pope’s mee-maw sums it up pretty well when she says “family is all we got” and that is exactly what drives both Denmark and Pope’s actions, whether they are trying to reunite their family or avenge their legacy. more so than this, both Pope and Denmark see the gold cross as a symbol of freedom. I mean, Denmark literally builds it into the walls of Freedman’s Church, and as Pope gets ready to take the cross back on the Coastal Venture, he says “the time where people do shit to us and we just sit back and take it is over.” once again, I’m probably missing so many parallels, but you get the gist.
so, in summary, whether it is intentional or not (and isn’t that always the question with the boat show lmao), a pattern has begun to develop. even though there is a shit ton of stuff going down each season, there are two major factors that define and drive the story:
a family-centered conflict that one of the Pogues faces while the other Pogues rally around them
the parallels that exist between said Pogue and members of their family
if this pattern actually exists and i’m not just talking out of my ass, that means there are three possible driving forces for s3 – either JJ, Kiara, or Sarah. (side note: I don’t think we’ve had enough time for Cleo to be the center point of the season-wide conflict yet, but with more seasons, I think we’ll get there)
Sarah’s familial conflict feels different than the rest of the Pogues, and I don’t think it could be the center point of a single season as it currently stands. conflict with Ward is a theme for the entire show, and rededicating a season arc to it when it’s already a series-wide arc doesn’t seem plausible to me. on top of that, I don’t really think we’ll be seeing the same kinds of parallels between Sarah and Ward that we’ve seen between John B/Big John and Denmark/Pope. I think a Sarah-centric season would be REALLY interesting if we ever find out what happened to her mother, and if we see the parallels between Sarah’s conflict with Ward and her mother’s conflict with Ward (i’m assuming there’s conflict there because …. well, of course there was. it’s ward.) Unfortunately, due to what I know from bts and casting calls, I don’t think we’re meeting Sarah’s mother yet, and I don’t think an exploration of that conflict is going to happen in s3.
similarly, I don’t think it’s JJ’s season quite yet. another little bts spoiler, but we’ll likely only see Luke in the very last episode, and as much as I hate him with every fiber of my being, he’s a major part of JJ’s characterization. I truly believe that we can’t get a well-rounded JJ-centric season without tying up the loose ends with Luke, and the send-off scene in s2 was never going to be enough. The single episode we’ll likely see him in during s3 is also not going to be enough to wrap everything up, and it’s sure as hell not going to be enough to drive the whole season (unless Luke actually comes back earlier, or JJ’s mom makes a reappearance but, once again, based on the stuff I’ve seen, I don’t think that will be the case in s3).
So, that leaves Kiara. Between her parents cracking down on her even harder, the threat of Blue Ridge hanging over her, and the fact that she ended the season by undermining her parents to sneak out and go missing for an undetermined amount of time, I think Kiara is perfectly set up to be the center point of the conflict for s3 - and the bts i have seen and some of the casting calls all seem to line up with the theory of a Kiara-centric Season 3
coming right back from Poguelandia, I don’t think Kiara’s parents will threaten to send her to Blue Ridge right away (or at least i hope they won’t akdjfhas I know I have some misguided faith in them), but I’m kind of thinking there might be a time jump, and I wouldn’t put it past the Carreras to threaten Blue Ridge a few weeks/months after getting Kiara back. While there’s a non-zero chance the Pates might introduce a third (literal) pot of gold that somehow relates to the Carrera family fortune, I’m actively hoping, wishing, and praying against it. So, the option most likely to maintain my sanity for the next few months is the central conflict of the season revolving around Kiara and her parents. This is what the Pogues could rally around – keeping Kiara from Blue Ridge. That leaves the question, who could Kiara parallel in her s3 arc?
Enter Anna Carrera.
Anna would be in the unique place of being both the antagonist and the foil to Kiara’s story, but it seems like the most logical choice. There’s already a built-in parallel there – a Kook girl running around with Pogues? we’ve heard this one before. Taking this even further, we know that Anna fell in love with a Pogue, chose him over her family, and risked her entire future for him. She might not act like it now, but a few years back, Anna was in the same exact position as her daughter. Since we know s3 is going to explore Jiara (thank you Josh Pate for confirming that so early on and quelling the insanity of my mind for at least a little bit), isn’t that the perfect way to create a parallel?
then, with Luke coming back into the picture late in s3, we have the opportunity for a JJ-centric s4.
anyway. let me lose my mind over this for the next few months.
