#ao3 feedback

[honeybnz]

How do you prefer to read fics? Spaced out like example 1 or closer together like example 2? I'm contemplating on how to post.

How do you prefer to read fics?

Spaced out

Closer together

I don't care in the slightest

Voting ended onJun 6

[chillinglikeashilling]

I think on the whole, the main reason AO3 should have not unilaterally decided to seperate the 'trilogy' of Chris Evans Captain America movies from BNW and any future (currently unannounced and not at all guaranteed btw) Anthony Mackie led movies is the optics.

AO3 and it's user base- and fandom in general (I've listened to my fandom elders talk about livejournal and I was on ff.net personally)- have had issues with how real life people of colour are treated in their spaces before. These spaces treatment of characters of colour are often indicative of their lack of care for real people who share their characteristics, and funnily enough that lack of care also impacts the experience of real life white fans of these characters of colour as well.

Regardless of how much easier their tag wrangling team thought this would make Chris Evans fans lives -I don't think they put a lot of thought about how this would affect Sam Wilson fans at all.

Sam Wilson is not a real person, but boy does he make a lot of real world bigots mad. Ever since the comics Sam Wilson became the third character to take on the mantle of Captain America - there's been pushback from real life audiences who claimed that for some reason giving the Shield to a Black man was going a step too far, and this is unfortunately a trend that continues with some of the MCU audiences as well. Sam doesn't actually have to deal with these people and the consequences of their whinin, but his fans do.

I just think if the wrangling team had taken the time to actually check in with the fans who actually write and read MCU Sam Wilson centered fic, it would have become clear very quickly that they were going to see the pushback they did.

It honestly feels like a background joke or storyline from a Marvel comic- in order to cater to fans who don't want to think about or interact with Sam now that he's taken on the mantle of Captain America a fansite has created a space to segregate all the fanworks from people who actually like Sam being Captain America pretending it's for their benefit, while actively ignoring that Sam has been a topic of fanworks for years and that Sam Wilson fans will have to interact with both spaces anyway as the majority of his content would have been prodced before the creation of the new space.

I'm not saying that's what the team wanted or intended to do, but optics don't care about your intentions. The impact of this- the inconvenience being pushed primarily into the shoulders of MCU Sam Wilson fans certainly is not improved by their intentions either. So regardless of their reasoning which I think is flawed anyway, the end result still sucks and also looks bad for them.

I also think it's telling that a lot of the people pushing back against the change on the announcement post are often recognizably consistent creators of MCU Sam fanworks.

It's possible that this might help some Sam Wilson fans yeah, but if a consistent theme across the people who support the change on the original post are that they're saying things like 'This isn't my fandom but spreading for awareness' or 'Sam's great but I don't want to read about him' I think that drives my point about the optics of this even further. Again especially considering that a lot of these works are going to continue to exist solely under the CEvans tag or across both tags anyway!

[longlivefeedback]

Have you ever read a fic that gave you so many emotions, wrecked you and put you back together just to tear your heart out again, and you have nobody to talk about it with?

Tell the author.

Not only does it make the author happy (and it will, for days or more), the author may want to talk about the fic with you! They may have answers to questions you have, or share what made them think of that particular scene that had you bawling.

[hyunsvngs]

juno. with all the love in my heart i ask, please elaborate on minchan fisting

i'm gonna turn it into a poly ot8 series on ao3 so there is opportunities for absolutely anything :3 that's definitely on my list tho

[miniherodesktales]

I wonder if ao3 would ever consider bringing in the use of emojis or like buttons, along with the kudos button.

My problem as a writer is that I’m reliant on positive feedback as motivation to keep going.

My problem as a reader is that I feel pressured to leave positive feedback on most chapters, but it can sometimes be difficult to think of what to say, and tbh I don’t always wish to interact with the author.

This is going to sound harsh, but it’s not the job of readers to keep us motivated and upbeat about our work and we shouldn’t feel entitled to feedback.....but it’s impossible not to feel disappointed.

But, if as a reader I can post a thumbs-up or a smiley face at the bottom of a chapter I’d feel that I was giving something back to the author. An emoji icon for everyone to see could be more gratifying that receiving an email saying someone left an invisible Kudos.

As the author I’d feel motivated to have some positive feedback even if it was just a thumbs-up icon in the comments box.

[artcupcakes]

Thanks for being chill then!! I’m gonna leave a very long detailed review on the actual fic itself, but for now here is the preliminary (critique) overview.

Buckle up, AC;; this is kinda picky of me to be pointing this out. I am BY NO MEANS a trained author! Just putting that there.

So I only spot,, about three typos. If you meant them that way, of course!

Carving (divide, engrave) < Craving (longing, hunger)

Withdraws (take away, verb) < Withdrawals (can refer to drugs, noun)

Revenant (revived) < Reverent (respectful, awe)

(I thought “contentions” was a typo but turns out there’s a second definition to it. The more you know.) That’s sort of a minor thing though, the rest of my complaints are just quality of life things!

Awwww AWWWWW “his soul sang at its rightness?” bruhhhhh that’s so cute dude ughhhhghhghhhh in my opinions, how amazing a fic is would be measured by the emotions it elicits from the reader. When I read this particular line, I felt something akin to a punch of pure fluff. No joke, that means it’s really good.

So when writing, you want to try and not use the same word twice in a single sentence! (and if more experienced, connecting paragraphs count, too)

For example: “The ending might be close, but the new beginning was also just as close.” < “—just over the horizon.”

Same thing goes for metaphors and similes (imagery)!

“Which might be why his soul sings upon seeing the rare visiting heisters, It only made sense.” (WHICH IS SUPER ADORABLE BY THE WAY) < “—why his heart flutters in his chest upon catching a glimpse,”

Preference: I normally refer to the characters with different terms so it doesn’t feel quite as redundant. Like for Dallas: “Mastermind, Crew Chief, the leader, the heister, the veteran (uncommon), the caporegime (rare)”

Bain is my favoritest FAVORITE and he gets a lot more: “the hacker (case sensitive, capital refers to Joy), the navigator, the contractor, the guide, the veteran (rare), the Watcher (unused)”

(There’s a neat trick you can do with this: the way the characters refer to each other! My version of Dallas calls Bain “their navigator,” and likewise the hacker thinks “his colleague.”)

I really enjoy gen fics, THANK YOU OP for writing this! Also the dude is stinkin’ touch starved I love it hehdidjsjskxn

(I’m aware that it’s kind of ironic; me screaming at grammar and immediately swapping over to spamming keys. If I were writing myself, I would say I was “alternating/oscillating between the differing states.” The best way I’ve described this imo is as follows: “blinking on and off like some kind of defective binary code.”)

Last thing, most sentences can be combined using commas; semicolons are used when a sentence can technically end but you want to add something more.

AAAHAHHH the hopelessness is STRONG in this one! I NEED MORE PLEASE YEAAAHHHH

ESPECIALLY THE FIRST FEW SENTENCES!!! which I rewrote for you because I really really REALLU LIKED IT

“No matter what you do, death would always come to claim your soul, in the end. It was inevitable, eventually happening to everyone, with no exceptions.

Bain had known this unchangable fact ever since he had the ability to understand his circumstances.

His plans were meticulously lined up, and he had made peace with the situation. And yet, there is a stark dissonance between what he believes and what he does. The navigator would quietly panic about it as his remaining days steadily ticked down to zero. Dread pooling in his gut as the date ceaselessly approached.”

Bain knows that his relationship with them is far too close for it to be classified as strictly business, but he doesn’t care. YESSSSS OP THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING YATAAAAAAHHHHH

All in all, REALLY GOOD for your first post!!! NICE

Spelling, truly my oldest and worst enemy(Yet Grammar as whole I do pretty alright. One of my best subjects even).

Some of your rewrites are a bit too wordy for my taste; but that's a taste thing more than anything. Also me being a scatter brain but that's not the point! I'm so glad you the fic enough to show your passion by wanting to see it to be more! :D

As well as liking that the characterizations. That was something I worry about.

I'll make sure to not over use the names next time. It's a bit harder to do with a character like Bain instead of say Dallas(Nathan, Steele[and all of it's various additions that can be added such as Elder and The], Crew Chief, Banker, Mastermind, Medic, etc) but I'll see if I can scramble my brain eggs!

Either way really glad you liked it ^u^

[crystallized-iron]

Readers of AO3,

If you see the author answering comments, are you less or more likely to leave feedback?

[hyunsvngs]

juno 😭😭 THE AGE SWITCH???? CHAN CALLING LINO HYUNG???? it’s so hot.. ihave been blessed!! you’re too good 😭 Thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏻

are you feeling so much better now? I sure hope so <3

-✖️

AHHH THANK YOU<3 IM FEELING BETTERRRR YEAS