Cup 47
Name: Edward Age: 69 Hometown: LA Central (South of Hollywood) Meeting spot: Otto Moser's Restaurant in the PlayhouseSquare District, Cleveland, OH Drink: Lemonade
I ordered their coffee, which was delicious (no cream added), but forgot to ask them what brand it was.
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Cup 47 has been a security officer at the B.F. Keith Building downtown for 12 1/2 years. He works the first shift: 7:30am to 3:30pm, Monday through Friday. He deals with everyone who comes through the building, assists maintenance and management people, and has other certain responsibilities with some of the businesses in the building.
Why this location, and why that drink? "I chose Otto Moser because I like their food, they are close to my work and I knew it would be reasonably quiet for our conversation. Lemonade is very tasty, has vitamin C - which is important for this time of year - and it's a pleasant change from sodas and coffee." Describe yourself in 6 words. "Oh, that's easy. Nasty, old, son of a bitch. You know what a curmudgeon is?" Are they all businesses in there [B.F. Keith Building]? "No, there are some law firms. There's an insurance agency and some non-profits. The businesses are mostly high tech-companies, so anything dealing with computers, the Internet, all that sort of thing." During your 12 1/2 years there, have you noticed any big changes in the offices that are there? Have most of them stuck around for awhile, or have many of them come and go? "A few of them have been here for the entire 12 1/2 years I've worked here, but there's been a bit of change, as well." What were you doing before this security officer job? "I was doing office work at an administration for pension and profit-sharing plans in California. I recall, when I was describing my blog to you, that you warned me about how conservative you are and believe that current American culture is disintegrating. You also asked me to watch that video on Dennis Prager speaking at Colorado Christian University, which I did, so that I would understand what your beliefs are. Why Dennis Prager, and can you elaborate on your thoughts? "Well, he's only one of a slew of conservatives who believes in this, but I admire him because he's extremely articulate and we're both Jewish. I'm a non-practicing Jew but I lived in Israel at one point." What were you doing in Israel? "I volunteered at a kibbutz for 6 months. A kibbutz is a collective community in Israel that was started by people who immigrated to Israel and started to develop agriculture and manufacturing. The word, kibbutz, comes from the Hebrew word, kibbutza, which means 'a group.' We lived separately from the families who lived in the kibbutz - almost like a dorm kind of thing - and what was expected of you was pretty straightforward: to do the work you were assigned and to learn the language, or in my case, attempt to learn. All meals and housing were provided, and when you weren't working, you could take the bus to Haifa and hang out. You could pretty much do whatever you wanted.
Being Jewish, I had the right to go, and when I was 39 years old, the war with Lebanon broke out so I thought, 'I better go and contribute something.'
Sha Kibbutz, Israel Photo Courtesy: TDreports
Kibbutz Gan Shmuel on Shavuot, 1959 Photo Courtesy: דוד שני via PikiWiki Israel
Picking cotton at Kibbutz Shamir, circa 1958 Photo Courtesy: Shamir Archive -
What did you miss most about the U.S.? Why did you come back?
"Cheeseburgers. I came back though because I wouldn't have fit in. I didn't conquer the language. I didn't have a job, and it's hard to become a citizen of Israel. But I wanted to be a citizen of America.
You know, it's been 35 years since I've quit smoking. February 23rd."
Oh, Congratulations! So going back to my question earlier, can you elaborate on your thoughts about America?
Angrily, Cup 47 replies, "I think American culture has gotten so high-tech that it has overspilled its useful areas into personal area, in particular, the cell phone.
The cell phone has great use. A businessman needs it for work, to call his co-workers, etc. For women, it provides a measure of safety. But I've seen many young people come through those front doors and many of them have a cell phone stuck to their ear. The cell phone is not an agent of social connectedness, but of separation.
Photo Courtesy: Mitek Systems
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From 2003-2012, the offices of CSU (Cleveland State University) were housed in the building I work at, and a lot of those students, who are supposedly Americans, can't speak English, write, or debate. These people are extremely Left-wing, believe in extreme social justice, want people to pay for them. They know nothing about American history and culture and have no love for our country. They're self-centered and egotistical.
When you turn on the television, all you hear about is entertainment. Beyoncé this, Lady Gaga that, Miley Cyrus - how she turned from wholesome Hannah to this lascivious character. I just don't see or hear the talent these people supposedly have. I usually turn on the radio. I like to tune into WKHM 91.5 FM. They play standard American music up to the middle 50s. Throughout the 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s, there was great talent, personality and delight to be associated with our culture. These days I feel like there are a lot of celebrities without talent and their voices are electronically created. It would be incredible to hear Lady Gaga sing without electronic editing and her ridiculous outfits."
What do you think young people need to do in order to turn around this culture?
"You can't change it. This culture has been created because young people are not discerning enough or demand anything in particular of artists."
Who is your favorite artist? Who do you enjoy listening to?
"I used to like Linda Ronstadt before she contracted Parkinson's. She was very charming and sang rock 'n' roll and country music. She went on tour with Nelson Riddle and made albums on great American Classics that were absolutely brilliant.
I like Elvis. He did his career the right way and served in the military when he was asked to, and demanded people treat him the same as everyone else in service.
As far as classical music, I like Mozart, Beethoven, Haydn, and Boccherini. Apollo's Fire [Cleveland Baroque Orchestra] is a great group."
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What do you like to read?
"I like to read about current American politics - strictly conservative - and American History from the end of the Civil War to the start of the World War, so that would be from about 1865-1914/1917. The United States, at this time, had a very economic way of doing things. There was a true middle class in a large country, people were determined to make their own way of living ... you worked hard if you wanted to. You weren't stuck being a peasant or sharecropper, like in the feudal system. You could be a real human. You could get an education, a decent job, have access to a free library system, take night classes, live in a decent home, live in middle class neighborhoods with little to no crime, have a car, a phone, a television, a phonograph. We had a greater number of citizens than in any country who had political rights. You could criticize the government more freely and have any view you ever wanted to have.
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The U.S. surpassed England and France in steel production. Do you know what that means? It means we were able to do things like build gigantic cities. We got started late in history but now we lead the world in everything. The Constitution was ratified in 1787. We built our country in 2.5 centuries. Because of the Constitution, we have a political system. Because of the Constitution, you have more opportunity to give input and money flowed like wine.
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In the 1950s, there was the Cold War. The Russians boldly told us, 'We're going to bury you.' They believed that Communism was the answer but look at them now. In the Korean War, 50,000 American men died to save South Korea, and there are still American soldiers stationed in that country to this day because who knows what North Korea will do, especially with Kim Jong-il's crazy son now leading the country. He beheaded his uncle for no reason. if you ask any older people in South Korea if they ever wanted the American soldiers to leave, they would say 'no.'
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Our culture is distracted. It's different than when I was younger. We don't have draft anymore. There is a very small percentage of youth in service. When Pearl Harbor happened, all of the young men ran to the nearest army post and enlisted because they had an understanding of how important it was to protect our country.
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At the age of 40 years, I had a revelation. I realized that people were not taking enough responsibility for their actions. They weren't taking care of their kids and raising a decent family. The liberal Democrats were changing their politics. In the 20s and 30s, there was a new phenomenon. Welfare, welfare checks, everything expected to be free - primarily by the black community ... it just all piled up. This isn't what I wanted."
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Education
"In education, the situation of sports and university scholarship is very disturbing to me, especially at public universities. Why are we handing money to student athletes who cannot read and write at the high level expected of other college students at the university? Very little is demanded of these athletes yet their college education is often all paid for but only because they are athletically superior, not academically.
Going to college seems to be a right these days. If you can't afford to go to college, educate yourself."
Imprimis is a monthly newsletter compiled by Hillsdale College (Michigan), of speeches delivered by conservative thinkers discussing subjects of current concern. "It [Imprimis] allows me to read these things and try to understand the concepts. I have to really pay attention to what I read in order to store information and to be able to go back to it to further understand.
YouTube is also an amazing resource. You can find and learn from videos on just about anything you want."
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In discussing relationships:
"Couples have to be open with one another and as close in their thinking as is comfortable. I think that's what holds marriages together. I was married for 9 years, together for 15 [if you include the dating prior to their marriage]. We worked at the same department store, she pursued me, and then we started dating. Her parents didn't like me though. I was a poor kid, and the longer we dated, the less her parents thought of me, especially her mom. Her mom didn't want her daughter to get married and have kids with me. But we got married anyway, no children though. Then my wife had a nervous breakdown and was out of work for 6 months. This was in northern California, the Bay area. After 3 years of trying to help her, I finally said goodbye and left our marriage. I met someone else around this time but chose not to pursue it.
But I soon discovered though that I was reasonably happy and better off being single. I can travel everywhere and not have to worry about another individual. I've traveled to eleven different cities, always alone: Montgomery, Charleston, Columbia (SC), Greenville, Raleigh, St. Louis, Kansas City, Louisville, and Baltimore."
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What idea or quote would you say you try to practice daily?
"Try to understand, as well as I can, human nature. Civilization is a consensus to behave in a certain way to benefit everyone, and the consequences of their actions destruct them. We're beginning to excuse people from their crimes. The idea of shame is disappearing. The flagrant nature of sexual matters is out of hand. It's fine to enjoy in private but we need to hold ourselves together when out in public. Sex, today, is thrown out into the streets. If this is today, what the hell is it going to be like tomorrow?
The most important aspect of civilization in America is the almost fanatic recognition of the individual person. But it's falling away because we have all these interest groups demanding extra favors, expressing legal concerns, etc."
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