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Two things about RWBY "Amity"

First off, while it would have been more pragmatic for Penny to atomize Emerald and Cinder, if Emerald didn't make it back to to Monstro and eventually help Oscar with his escape, which meant she wouldn't be able to RRAYNBOW take down Ironwood and save Penny from his and Watts' virus.

Second, that Harriet shuts off Ruby's broadcast just when she's getting to talking about Ironwood fall to the dark side helps spare the viewers to be told what they've already seen. What I respect about RWBY is that unlike most anime, it doesn't force you to re-hash what you've already.

But maybe I'm being a bit harsh. Most shows come from the era when regular television was a thing, and there was no way to really tell if a viewer had seen the relevant information. Ergo, 'flashbacks' and 'As you Knows' were necessary to keep everyone on the same keel. RWBY, being a series from a web-streaming service, doesn't have that problem and assumes that its audience has obsessively kept track of its lore.

This, tragically, is more credit than the casual anime viewer really deserves.

After complaints that the programme treated the audience as if they knew its entire history,

Lyman Spong intentionally made ‘The Navigator’ a jumping-on point for new or lapsed viewers.

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@ashryverwithadragon

replied to your post “Setting some facts straight”

@falling-last-stardust its so sad. I personally LOVE the tv series, all 8 seasons of them. Bad influence is always going to be there but you know what? I got a friend of mine to watch all httyd material in chronological order. She absolutely adored rtte and can't wait to watch the last few movies. So no matter how much negativity surrounds it in here, there still are people who love it. Can you believe there are people who don't know the tv series even exist? Insane!

It’s good that your friend loves the show! :)

I don’t mind if people dislike the show as I understand that it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, and yes there are issues present which people will be unhappy about. They have the right to voice out their criticisms if they want, just like how some of us who found issues with HTTYD3 have the right to voice out our dissatisfaction as well.

The reason why I posted that is not because I disagree with other people’s opinions about the show, but because of misinformation being passed around in the name of the official authorities (e.g. claiming that Dean DeBlois has stated that RTTE is not canon even though he has mentioned several times in interviews that it is). Presenting your opinion is one thing, but to present misleading facts and claiming that it’s from Dreamworks themselves is just outright BS and I will not hesitate to call anyone out on that if they do not provide concrete evidence for their statements.

And I’m not surprised that there are not that many people who have heard of the TV series, as the general audience are mainly casual fans rather than hardcore ones who will gobble up any product released. Plus the TV series didn’t even get marketed much compared to the movies, and it is usually like that for other franchises too whereby the movies are more well known than the TV series and other spinoffs that are not on the big screen. This is why even though the TV series heavily references the movies, sadly the movies won’t provide much for the TV series fans, since it is assumed that those who watch the TV series will know the movies, but not the other way around.

In addition, HTTYD is not the only franchise that does this. Marvel does it as well with their TV series too, which is why you won’t see TV characters like Daredevil, Jessica Jones or events that happened in the TV series appearing or being referenced in their movies, as not everyone in audience watches the TV series and will get the references. You basically don’t want to end up providing a Continuity Lockout (check this article on TVTropes as I cannot post the link here) for the general audience, hence it’s understandable why the TV characters would not appear in the movies.

However, that doesn’t mean that the TV series isn’t canon or that the events in there did not happen. They can still put in subtle references that the TV fans can understand, but does not alienate the casual audience either. Examples include the Fireworms (which made their first appearance in the TV series) seen in the Hidden World, as well as Hiccup’s stuffed toy first seen in Breakneck Bog appearing in both HTTYD2 and HTTYD3. There was even a subtle reference to Viggo in HTTYD3 if you listen closely to Hiccup and Eret’s conversation at the beginning when they were still in Berk (Hiccup’s line ”We’ve dealt with his kind before” in response to Eret’s description of Grimmel being a mind player).

And I know we might be going a bit off topic here, but I am tired of the usual excuse from “antis” that the show is not consistent with the movies as justification for it not being canon. I am fine with other reasons but this is the one that I will not personally accept. Well newsflash! All works of fiction have inconsistencies and I bet there is no such work that is 100% consistent, since all authors are only human who make mistakes. This is summed up well with this tweet by Richard Hamilton below.

Well known franchises like Star Wars and Harry Potter have inconsistencies and contradictions (*coughs*Cursed Child and Fantastic Beasts*coughs*). Even the HTTYD movies have inconsistencies among themselves (if you ignore the TV series altogether) and so do the book series. Furthermore, the inconsistencies in HTTYD are relatively tame compared to others I have seen in other franchises, and they can still be easily reconciled with movie canon through interpretations and headcanons. I for one am at least glad that it’s not as bad as The Legend of Zelda or Kingdom Hearts series which can literally give you a headache.

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During the 1980s, due to the fact that most Inspector Spacetime serials from before weren’t available to the public (and sometimes to the writers),

references made to those old serials frequently caused consternation amongst newer fans, who had never seen the episodes or events referenced.

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So in all Hollywood studios, sequels are out and "universes" are now in. We can thank their odd interest in comics for this, where continuity was prevalent decades before Iron Man. Characters can walk into another characters' "world" or "franchise" without any hesitation, sometimes as a villain. Actors will play characters other than what they are known for in the universe (ex- Robert Downey Jr. won't be Tony Stark in the third Avengers film!).

... I don't like this. Continuity lockout is one huge problem that attributed to me not warming up to superhero comics, even as a kid! Now I can't even ignore it! I cannot spend time sorting through past comics, movies, or TV shows to know what the hell is going on. Staring my 30's, and already the entire entertainment industry is no longer aiming to me.

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