#cw arson

[redtalics]

the people (two of them) have asked, so you shall recieve. woe, sanfo thoughts upon ye. discussion of torturing ahead

Ok so

First, there's this: Sadism does NOT seem to be a common thing in Nevada. People value their enemies dead far more than them incapacitated or traumatized. Weapons are centered around killing as quickly as possible, there is no market for weapons that don't kill immediately so manufacturers do not sell them.

(personally, I suspect this is because of Hank, who is considered the biggest threat against Nevada at time of writing. Most people who are using weapons are doing so because they are trying to kill, or are working against, Hank. Hank has a legendary pain tolerance, so if a weapon can't kill hank, it may as well be as desirable to the population as a toothpick. This theory doesn't account for the lack of brutal weapons before Hank existed though.)

Wanting to cause pain, taking joy in inflicting misery, is not normal, even in Madness Combat. People want their enemies dead, first and foremost! Any pain that comes from the method of murder chosen is usually coincidental. A lot of terrible, unethical things happen in Nevada, but pain doesn't usually seem to be the goal. It's all either for education (experimenting on people to learn things about themselves), or eradicating threats. That's the culture here. Torture is a crime that lacks a demographic in Nevada, so one can reasonably conclude torture isn't something the people are adapted to either.

One of the most interesting things about Sanford, to me, is that it is only him specifically who has done torture and arson. And... you know... his coworkers are Hank (an honest-to-god mass murderer) and Deimos (a man with a lighter for a thumb that leaves ashes everywhere).

You'd think that HANK would be a torturer, that DEIMOS would be an arsonist (accidentally or not), but no, no! Hank and Deimos's posters don't mention any of that! It's all Sanford! When Doc needs a supply line to the AAHW destroyed, he probably calls Sanford. When Doc needs information wrung out of a priority off-the-grid target, he calls Sanford. When Doc wants people to regret trying to sabotage SQ, he calls Sanford.

According to the poster, he specializes in sabotaging supplies, destroying morale- he specializes in making his enemies' lives hell. And it's something he's apparently well-known for, too, enough for it to be on his wanted poster. It's not a secret, which means people have gone through whatever he does to them and lived - likely on purpose.

But does he want to do this?

I'd say he does.

He doesn't NEED to bring a meathook to fight with. There's PLENTY of weapons laying around that are far more effective than some random barbed hook that hurts more than it kills. It isn't like Sanford is lacking in choices here. He uses brutal methods because he prefers doing it. At best, he's neutral and only uses this brutality because of its effectiveness as a scare tactic. At worst, he actively enjoys it, and the resulting fear of him and SQ is a happy accident.

If you lived in the world of Madness Combat, seeing Sanford would strike terror into the heart of any person with a will to live. When Sanford catches you, he rips you apart, destroys your home, and he might not even do the mercy of killing you when he's done, so all your buddies can get a full view of the world of hurt that awaits them. He's SQ's fearmonger. If dying doesn't scare you away, maybe living in torment will.

There's very few characters in Madness Combat who can match this level of sadism. The Auditor, and maybe Garret Goyle... That's his competition in the "inflicting misery" department. Two people.

So yeah, I think Sanford is pretty scary, even in the context of Madness Combat's world! And I love that for him. It implies some FASCINATING depth to his character when you compare this to everything else we know about him. He's likeable enough to have a partner that's fiercely protective of him despite not at all matching his sadism, he's goofy enough to taunt in m:pn2 and screw around in a clothing store mid-mission, he gets tired of dealing with Aud-hell bullshit like anyone would. What is going on with him that allows this dichotomy to exist? Fun to think about...

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[irokwashere]

I’m fucking obsessed with mac n ketchup Stan I require all the lore

C/W for multiple triggering themes ie arson, sui ideation and thoughts, family drama, s/h, alcoholism, ableism, all that not so fun stuff

AAAA okay so, basically spoilers, this is loosely based on an RP my fiancé and I have been doing since January of 2023, and this AU was insoired by the ocs we created in that, so in the MNK AU, Kyle had met this woman, Grace, in college and married her despite Sheila not liking her, but Kyle was in a “grr I’m a grown man, Ma, I know what I’m doing” and married her anyways (I know this isn’t stan but it plays into Stan’s character); so Sherri is born, and Kyle, Yknow, works and has his emotional shaky relationship with his mom, and Sherri was actually named after Sharon, who Kyle went to mostly because he was like “oh shit idk how to be a parent what have I done”. Naturally, he turns to his SBF to be the designated baby sitter.

Stan fell in love with Sherri from the moment he first held her, and was a Godfather at first. Now Stan, in this au, thought he was bi for the longest time, but once he hit like 20 he realized that maybe, just maybe, he leaned more toward one field than the other. He’s also demisexual, and agender, but uses he/him to keep things simple, just fyi. He talks to Wendy because, especially after experiencing Sherri for the first year, he wanted a baby of his own, so Wendy was a surrogate mother for his son, Nathan.

Now for more STAN background, in the au, he is on the autism spectrum, like that’s a BIG part of his character in the RP and in this AU, so things weren’t easy for him as a neurodivergent person, so he did struggle a lot in social situations and in school, and there was a time where he and Kyle kinda drifted apart.

The event of Tegridy farm burning down IS canon here, and Stan DOES have PTSD from it, in a unique way. The man is OBSESSED with fire but also is a pyrophobe due to the event. In this AU it was kinda more so an accident, because he STARTED the action as a reaction to his intrusive and depressive thoughts BUT as the flames grew stronger and taller, he heard Shelley calling for help from the barn and instead of like- waiting for help and all that and letting her possibly die, Stan actually runs into the flames and rescues her BUT almost gets trapped himself.

It gets deemed as a wild fire incident (Randy blames Stan but SP P.D. Isn’t the smartest and doesn’t wanna deal with Randy), and Shelley and Stan have matching burn scars on their legs. Stan also suffered a HUGE asthma attack from both the smoke and the weed in the air, enough for him to have nightmares to come where he failed to save Shelley/got trapped in the flames (Sharon’s cries for her babies haunts him).

Anyways, fast forward to about Junior/Senior year of college (Tegridy burning down was Jr. high, Freshman year was Randy and Sharon’s divorce, Randy got custody of the kids bi weekly on the weekends because of course the system failed the kids), Crimson Dawn gets back together, legit, starting off as a cover band, and Stan and Kyle’s friendship is somewhat repaired by this time, Stan is still on and off with Wendy.

So, they graduate HS, go to college, Kyle meets Grace and impulsively gets married just to prove a point to Sheila and Gerald (who OBVIOUSLY favor Ike, not really, but Kyle FEELS like that’s the case), Kyle doesn’t talk to Sheila for a hot minute, Grace gets knocked up, and Kyle’s like “oh shit oh fuck oh shit”, turns to Sharon for help, yada yada.

Now Grace is a very head strong and independent woman, and she values her skillset and career choice (fashion designer) above almost all else and she’s almost never home, Kyle’s stuck with the baby and is stressing with college courses and work and his non existent relationship with his mom.

Stan can pretty much only help with one of those things, so he sets up play dates with Sherri and Nate, and supports his SBF best he can (while also running away from his own emotional problems, because he’s Stan and he’s stubborn)

Skip a few years, and Grace gets knocked up (again), still the same old Grace, so now Kyle’s juggling work, lack of familial relationship, AND two kids, except Godfather Stan is right at his side the whole time.

By the time Sherri is 5-6, Nate is 4-5, and Spencer is about 3, Grace basically chooses to pursue her job in New York over staying with Kyle, and even the kids.

Stan, of course, steps up and continues to raise the kids on the side while Kyle is dealing with this woman that he believed would be compatible with someone like him, Kyle and Grace get divorced (it’s not pretty), and Kyle slowly realizes “oh my god the partner I’m looking for is right next to me”. Because all he wanted was for someone to accept him and his kids, and who’s done that the entire time? Stan.

Now, back to more Stan focused: Stan brings the kids to the studio a lot and plays music for them, but that also means that the kids (Sherri especially) have seen some of Stan’s worse moments. He never really SNAPS per se, but he does have moments where they (she) can tell he’s not really ALL THERE.

Stan always struggled with something, whether it was alcohol, or some form of s/h, ranging from avoiding sleep, to punching walls (or himself), but he never does it in front of the kids; Sherri, unfortunately, is observant as Hell. So is Spencer, both of which are ATTACHED to Stan like duct tape, so they end up telling Kyle “hey, I know you’re going through a thing but maybe you and Daddy/Stada can help each other out (Spencer calls Stan “Stada”), so then it becomes like a counselor/boyfriend relationship from Kyle to Stan, and Stan’s broken mindset finally gets the attention it deserves.

Stan has had a record of “spacing out” when pyrotech goes off on stage, and this is one of the first triggers Kyle makes note off, after a concert that takes place near Stan’s birthday, about a year after they get together, which inspires Kyle and the kids to get him an emotional support dog, a girl Swiss Shepard named Zappy, named a little after Sparky. In the AU, Sparky had a little lightning bolt on his paw pad, and so does Zappy, so it’s believed that Zappy is a reincarnation of Sparky. Stan keeps her close to try and keep himself grounded, especially in crowds. She’s often back stage during concerts just in case.

And that’s all I can think of off the top of my head. That and Stan’s shoulder injury in this AU came from him rescuing Shelley in the barn, one of the pillars fell and slammed into it, hard enough to dislocate it. Also, another fun fact, Stan bleached his hair once in HS, and later, Sherri helps him bleach it a second time.

Stan also helped Kyle reconnect with his parents, AFTER they get married; Sheila got to meet her grandkids, and Kyle and his parents have a decent relationship, at least in good enough terms to talk to each other again.

Kyle took Stan’s last name in their marriage as he wasn’t in good terms with his parents again YET, and Stan ended up adopting Kyle’s kids legally and also changing their last names.

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Simple arson themed alter template

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This is so funny to me.

[quillmasblog]

Interviewer: Do you have any words on why you've done this?

Edward: "If you're watching Mr Ho."

"Fuck you"

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(based off this meme)

[fictionfolk-safehaven]

I have so many mixed feelings about my sources. Mainly because I’m sources from:

(all from hazbin hotel)

-Valentino

-Velvette

-Alastor

-Charlie

-Camilla Carmine

-Lucifer Morningstar

my strongest sources are Velvette and Valentino

i don’t regret my source actions. I wouldn’t do it again but I don’t regret it.

I feel bad about not feeling bad though

-Destiny

(input wanted)

CW's for this post: Will add based off the above sources if asked, we just don't know the source; Mentions of explosives and arson and such, exotrauma, serious talk of guilt/shame, and self-worth.

Post author: Wilbur (DSMP fictive)

Quick disclaimer- we don't know your source media very well, and only really have one example of a problematic action from any of your source characters beyond typical "we're in hell lol" stuff. But from what little we do know, I think I'm the one out of our collective who relates the most. Also apologies in advance, I get sort of serious near the end of this. Nothing bad, just like- really genuine.

Hello! So, I'll start off with the fact that I see no issue with not feeling guilt for sources. I have some commentary because I relate a bit to this, but first... Our way of looking at it is like this; Would any of us feel guilt for something we did in a past life? We believe in reincarnation, but I don't think you need to believe in that for it to be relevant. Who I am now has no control over who I was in my source. That's not just past, it's outright another life. I personally feel- while other fictives in our collective have a different relationship to their source than I do- that there's no room for guilt in this situation. I don't feel bad, because that was another me so to speak.

As for what I did in my source- I'm often considered to be the character that started the ball rolling down the hill and into hell, pretty much. Not even joking, my profile picture on discord is me blowing up the homes of a solid chunk of my sourcemates. I felt a little bit bad, because... I don't feel bad for that. My actions were, at least from my point of view, understandable. And even if they weren't- who cares? Certainly not me. I'm allowed to have been a horrible person in my source, and to still accept myself now. I think I owe that to myself, actually, and to my sourcemates. Not to get all poetic, but- what use would causing more pain do? Would turning that pain inward rather than outward help? It doesn't change what happened.

Most of my sourcemates have exotrauma that's directly or indirectly tied to/caused by me. If they expressed that they were struggling with exotrauma from our source that I'd caused, I'd do what I could to help, but ultimately guilt and shame from me won't help them. Understanding will. I don't know if you have sourcemates, and I don't know their relationship to your source or you, but ultimately my admittedly-very-not-professional opinion is that guilt and shame just make people feel bad. They don't do much else. Whether we like it or not, we share a body and a life now. We have to learn that our wellbeing as a collective includes everyone. If someone is drowning in guilt, miserable, that's not a good thing! I'm not bad for not feeling that way, that's not what any of us want. I wouldn't wish that on even our worst enemies, if they were introjected. Once you're in here, you're in it for the long haul and you deserve happiness just as much as everyone else. Regardless of source actions.

At least, that's our take on it. I hope some of this made sense- I didn't know I had such strong feelings on this honestly. Kaeya made this blog mostly for himself and here I am ready to shake people by the shoulders into loving themselves apparently. /lh /silly

I wish you and your system/collective well. You all deserve it.

-Keeper Wilbur (yes I'm still signing off even though it says at the top of the post. I think the Haven Keepers thing is cool as fuck and Charlie liked signing off so we're doing that too.)