#galathil

[aldanil]

Dark vision has its advantages

[macchiavato]

Okay this isn't mairon or adar themed idea, but please. Please 🙏🏽

would you be able to at least make a sketch of Celeborn and Galathil? The two are brothers in the Silmarilion and there is only a handful of art that have both brothers.

Here you go, anon! Celeborn yapping to Galathil about his new girlfriend for hours.

[firefly-artwork]

My chara-designs for the Teleri Royalty : Part 6

Galadhon & Galathil

Next will be Oropher, Thranduil & Legolas

[gracefallingart]

Line of Elmo

Here is some progress on my family tree project.

It is a shame we don't know the names of so many of the wives and mothers in these elven lines, but instead of neglecting them I usually draw them, just so we can see the traits passed down through time.

Glimpse at the ever-expanding plan, and the growing list of people I need to draw.

[rrr6867]

so Celeborn and Elrond/Elros are related through Nimloth (Celeborn’s niece and Elrond’s grandmother). Imagine how much you could fuck around with Weird Elf Genetics™️ to have Elrond look disturbingly like Celeborn, or (arguably more angst), like his brother Galathil, Nimloth’s Dad

[flying-mochis]

for those who think about Doriath as much as I do...

what do you think?

Celeborn and Galathil are twins

Celeborn is older than Galathil

Galathil is older than Celeborn

Voting ended onJun 5

assuming Galathil exists I guess

[ranger616]

In the midst of writing a conversation between Celeborn and Galathil set in between the dwarven invasion of Doriath and the second kinslaying about Elured, Elurin, Elwing, and Galathil’s (recently deceased) wife, something rather beautiful happened:

“Even in the past few months, I swear those boys have grown two inches. There is so much she will not see. She will never meet her many nieces and nephews.” He gave Celeborn a knowing look. “For in knowledge of how great the love between you and the lady Galadriel is, I’m sure it will result in many elflings for Elured, Elurin, and Elwing to play with.”

Celeborn glowered at him. “Perhaps their children. We are in no hurry.”

I wrote that bit of dialogue at the end there and was like ‘ha, he would say that. Thats something a person would say’, then I turned on my critical thinking skills, and realized that my unconscious is genius, cause like… Celeborn, honey, you have no idea.

[chaos-of-the-abyss]

i do very much think dior and nimloth were super cloyingly sickeningly in love with each other, but i also think the political tangles in their marriage are very interesting. setting aside the fact that they name their first two children so explicitly in memory of thingol -- doriath's first king who in many ways is its actual foundation -- it's somewhat jarring, in a sort of hilarious way, to consider their marriage in the context of the patriarchal society that elves operate in. (setting aside, for this discussion, the wider situation of how tolkien's own sexism influenced his characters' ways of life.)

in patriarchal settings, when it comes to marriage there's an element of the woman being "given away" from her father's household to her husband's household; she joins her husband's family and is thus expected to act with his family's reputation and dignity -- as well as her own family's -- in mind. dior and nimloth though are already part of the same wider family, so like, nimloth in marrying him is being "given away" to... the same dynasty she already hails from. granted they're hardly the only couple in the tolkienverse with some habsburgism going on, but what adds an extra twist of flavor to me is that dior's connection to their dynasty -- the ancestry from thingol, and to a perhaps lesser extent, from olwe and elmo -- comes from his mother. by contrast, nimloth gets her connection to their dynasty from her father. dior is a man but he's thingol's descendant through a woman; nimloth is a woman but she's thingol's descendant through a man. there's not really a point i'm trying to make with this, it's just something that makes me think about what it might mean for their relationship. one can say that dior maybe doesn't have the best claim to doriath's throne -- after all the argument can be made from this patriarchal context that luthien has joined beren's family by marrying him, and thus what dior should be is the next head of the house of beor, not the next king of doriath. but then you look at his marriage with nimloth and you see how they're reuniting the diverging branches of their family tree...

on the other hand though -- under the assumption that thingol's children were considered next in line to the throne over his brothers or their descendants -- by having no other children besides luthien, a daughter, thingol and melian already set the expectation that thingol's line, the main branch of the dynasty, would inevitably continue from a woman. they've already -- i suppose rather anomalously considering as far as the elves go i can't think of a single instance of a woman being considered her father's heir -- broken the agnatic-cognatic succession. in which case dior's claim to the throne coming from his mother rather than his father would have had precedent to back it up and thus would have engendered less controversy. alternatively, if doriath had been viewing elmo's sons (galadhon and celeborn) as having a better claim than luthien due to her being a woman, that could have led to some disagreements about the next in line to the throne. which brings us back to where i started about the political implications of dior/nimloth -- reuniting the branches of their family tree through marriage. i do have to wonder where celeborn would fit into that though, as galadhon's brother and nimloth's uncle.

on top of alllll that we can't forget that nobody probably really thought of doriath's succession as an issue anyway, since it would be impossible for thingol to die of natural causes. there's a fair chance it was never given that much consideration to begin with. anyway idk. i just think dior/nimloth, and generally the political situation of doriath around that time, is Interesting to approach from this sort of angle; there's potential for a serious succession conflict there, and that's not even getting into the fact that dior is part-mortal, which is unheard of in quite literally all of time and creation. and technically that succession conflict wouldn't even contradict canon, since we get so little details about dior's ascension as king in the first place