i think its important to understand that when transphobes say "trans men are misguided and mentally ill cis women" they are not saying "we legitimately care about trans men but are ignorant" they are saying "trans men are a socially diseased category of persons who must be thoroughly stripped of autonomy, detransitioned or else rendered dead through forced institutionalization, social isolation, and various forms of abuse."
one can discuss the difference of this rhetoric and the way the same people are more blatantly violent when discussing trans women, and i agree that such a difference is significant, but this does not mean transphobic rhetoric around trans men is not also violent.









