i know u love sagas of sundry dread, but do like madness as well? i really liked dread but couldn't get past the first ep of madness for some reason :/
I liked madness! I prefer dread by far, but I did like madness. there were a lot of issues with madness that weren’t there with dread and I think a lot of that has to do with the sos team being overly ambitious, if that makes sense? they got more episodes than dread did but they still tried to do too much, I think.
it also helps that dread had the ittd stream as a prequel, so by the time sagas actually started we already knew the characters, their relationships, and the setting, and we had a pretty good idea who / what the main challenge would be. madness had to do a lot more work to get us to a similar level of understanding, and I think one area where it kind of stumbled was not being clear at all how much time passed between the prologues and the rest of it. like fenly’s prologue was the same day, I think emmett’s was like the day before, but then abigail’s was like 2 years ago??? and that wasn’t made clear until we were multiple episodes deep.
I dunno. the second episode (when they all actually start playing together) is better than the prologue, but I’ll be honest, a lot of the episodes sort of muddled together in my brain. I have a hard time separating what happened in each episode / getting the chronology right. there were a lot of times where they ended up somewhere doing something and I personally couldn’t track how we’d gotten there and why.
(madness is also... incredibly heterosexual. like, okay, the relationships on their own are pretty good and I was surprised by how supportive of them I ended up being, but it’s a very very different vibe than dread.)
I think one of the things that made dread so successful was that, even setting the ittd stream aside, all these characters already knew each other, and their dynamics were well-established before the cameras ever turned on. madness, because it was a group of strangers, had to take a lot more time for everyone to kind of suss out their characters both individually and in relation to everyone else... the dread team got to do that offscreen. you know how it usually takes a couple sessions for a new adventuring party to figure out how to work together, and then by the end of the campaign they’re a well-oiled machine? the entirety of madness was that new-party phase, and I definitely think being introduced to the dread crew for the first time all together versus being introduced to the madness crew for the first time as individuals played a big role in that-- especially considering that we as the audience had to learn a very new cast of characters (and they had to learn each other!) at the same time as following a much more complex plot.
I liked madness. I liked the characters a lot, and it’s always a delight to watch ivan get better and better (esp since I’ve been around since the no survivors days... howfarwevecome.mp3). if you can stomach straight ppl and constant unnecessary jump-cuts to 3 frames of the characters in straightjackets, I’d say it’s worth giving madness another shot. maybe you’ll have an easier time following the plot than I did. but I don’t think anybody’ll blame you for not bothering.
I don’t know what they’re gonna do for season 3, but I hope it’s... more like dread than madness. like I said, I think most of the problems I had with madness (saying as little as I can so as not to spoil anything) stem from the moment in the writing process where somebody said “more complicated = better.”