#jaybin

[comicqueen101]

[owlithere]

Thinking about my Jaybin's “chosen one” agenda again. I think it would be funnier if we added Kyle to it. Honestly, I'm pretty surprised I didn't think of this when I was drawing them together as “chosen ones” that shit talk others.

Imagine that, some time after the community and Batfam find out that Jason is alive because he of his status as a chosen one, perhaps even after their failed attempt to find him, the conversation in the JL turns once again to the topic of “the chosen ones.” This time in plural.

Constantine: SO! any news about the chosen one Robin? Batman, in a sad whisper: No… Timbit, with the look: can you just call us by using numbers? Constantine: and you other chosen one trainee does not have any idea? Batman, surprised: other? Timbit: I am also magic? Constantine: no no darling~ I ment the new lantern boy Batman: WHAT?! JL's magic community aka JL Dark: 😗 ~~~ Other JL's members: 😶 Present green lanterns: 🤠😬🫥😰... Kyle, blinking: fuck! Nightwing, and some other Titans: uncontrollable laughter 😆

[vampykitty-kun2]

Post-Crisis but Pre-New Origin Jaybin

- Detective Comics (1938-2011) #573

[rollcody]

[willthemonsterswin]

jaybin sticker available on my etsy… 👀

shop name: willthemonsterswin

[satvikiposts]

something I really wish should be explored more about Jason's character is his mental age because see-

he already had a tonne of trauma at 12 which has proved to increase one's mental age and Bruce telling alfred that jay is older than both of them combined then-

this kid is murdered at 15 betrayed by his biological mom,wakes up in his grave and spends like 18 months catatonic and then comes in touch with all of this within 24 hours when emotionally speaking he is STILL 15

so yeah I wonder how this has an impact on his psyche and lifestyle

[ibuprobinfen]

Adding on to an old point I’ve made about the victimhood complex the fandom has made for Tim- is that- outside of the obvious that I’ve already stated before that death does not diminish tragedy- in fact death is the driving factor in most historical tragedies- and that the victimhood of someone who’s died shouldn’t have to rely on whether they survived or not- and it does not matter if they “asked for it” because #1 that normalises the concept that a perpetrator’s responsibility is dependent on whether a victim lended them an opportunity or not- and if the victim did then it isn’t the perps fault for grabbing it. and #2 he quite literally did not ask for it- and to believe that would be equivalent to the absurd claim that “a victim of suicide shouldn’t be pitied because they chose to kill themselves”- Tim being being “forced” (I’ve already dismantled this argument the last post I’ve made on this topic) to be “better” than Jason- even- even if that’s what the comics hinted at (which it isn’t.) he still wouldn’t be the central victim of Jason’s death- it’s like watching someone else fall and then being scared yourself of falling- does that make you the victim of my fall??- sure Tim might’ve been affected by it- and some may be able to successfully argue that his life was changed by Jason’s death but Jason is the one who died- the death ended Jason’s life. And I’m not here to argue for if experiencing death has the same effect as actually fucking dying- because it should be obvious and if it isn’t your world view on humanity is grotesque.

Tim’s fear is real, Tim’s anxiety is real I’m not here to diminish the struggle Tim had to face but none. None of it makes Jason’s death about him. Insecurity doesn’t carry the same weight of being functionally erased- yes. Because Bruce’s erasure of Jason’s existence (from the covering up of his death, to essentially trying to erase the fact that Jason’s ever existed for his own grief IS another layer of Jason’s victimhood. His tragedy didn’t end the day he stopped breathing- which is why I fundamentally disagree that someone’s humanity ends the day that they die- they are still human even in death and disrespecting the dead holds the same weight as disrespecting the living (a point I can’t believe is contested against)) Jason even in the rubrics you people are operating under “beats” Tim at his own game- Tim just (subconsciously) thinks he is replaceable Jason was genuinely replace then his life was scrubbed away by a man he genuinely loved.

When you’re making this argument you’re #1 removing the accountability of joker’s actions- #2 removing Jason’s humanity (which we all know leads to what in this fandom) #3 perpetuating the idea that victims need to earn empathy for their tragedy- (ie, act the way society expects victims to act, lie down and let a system that’s unfavourable to you in the first place seek the justice you are owed) and #4 (subconsciously or not) equating the distress of a rich kid and ranking it over the death of a poor one. This entire argument is disgustingly dehumanising for Jason- especially since the central argument is that “since Jason’s dead we need to look for an ACTUAL victim.”

The entire reason this argument even has to be had is because one side is “my favourite character (I don’t think the fact he’s wealthy is a coincidence but that’ll make me “too woke”) should have the cultural right to place himself as the central victim of a death that is born of a critique of systems (even unintentionally)” and the other is “dude. What the fuck.”

[crown-of-everest]

My boi