#objectively bad

[croakerverse-lore]

Lore fact: Adam Sandler ( N/A )’s Eight Crazy Nights is not a good movie. Objectively, it is not.

Stop this.

[mollywog]

ohhhh, this data is just… bad

[nag-mamahal]

I don't even follow Supernatural content anymore but my front page is flooded with Misha Collins (yet again!) Ik he's fruity but how many times does he have to come out of the closet as a heterosexual

[gale-gentlepenguin]

Could you elaborate more on being objectively bad and personally bad? I think I might understand, but I'm not for sure

Oh of course.

Well when a show is Objectively bad it usually does two or three of the following:

-The characters act in a way that is counter to their own character without reason (i.e.: They are acting in a way so the plot would go forward. Usually dumbed down, smarted up, act like jerks, act too naive, etc.)

-There is the implementation of a Deus ex Machina (i.e something that comes in out of no where to fix the situation)

- The lesson (should the show be episodic) is botched or teaches a bad lesson that is actually harmful.

- Previously establish canon is ignored, contradicted, or purposely ignored for the sake of an episode ( prime example: just watch Fairly Odd parents and how often Da Rules get ignored in the last few seasons)

-The plot has no cause for why something happens (in. other words. its “ and then something happens” scenario”) Plots should have a relative connection to what happens.

Now for something to be Personally Bad it is a lot simpler. It basically only needs 1 of the following:

-The character or characters act in a way that the viewer doesn't like (but is still consistent with their character or has just cause)

- The canon goes in a direction that the viewer is not a fan of (but still makes sense for the show)

- The lesson being taught is something that the viewer disagrees with on a personal note

-The plot goes into a situation that the viewer dislikes BUT makes sense for the episode/show

-The character/characters have interactions that the viewer does not like.

The main difference is one is caused by Bad writing and the other is purely by opinion of the viewer.

[scowlczumly]

The Long Night was an objectively bad episode.

Fuck, how are they gonna wrap this damn show up in three episodes?

[psyprick]

[thegreatlordfireraven]

The Last Jedi fails miserably in regards to its storytelling by this one single factor, regardless of any other of its problems: It has both set-ups without pay-offs and pay-offs without set-ups. 

Snoke was set-up to be something powerful, menacing and with an intriguing backstory. He was killed by a telegraphed, obvious attack, provided no real tension, and remains completely unexplained. This is not a pay-off. This subversion does not work because it does not provide a more interesting twist than expected or provide any new insights--it simply kills the plotline and ends any potential.

Holdo is revealed to have been right all along and we are manipulated and told to feel happy she’s good and then sad she’s dead--it’s supposed to be heroic and spectacular. This is not set-up well, and thus the pay-off falls flat. There are no hints given to her being good and she is painted in the wrong for most of the film (as is, inexplicably, Poe, but we won’t get into that). This is a poor pay-off with no setup. It is bad writing.

Feel free to provide more examples.

[crowjubilee]

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