#orpheus dc

[lost-my-gender-in-the-war]

My biggest issue with Fanon Jason is that there are several characters with his traits, but because they’re not white dudes they don’t get as much attention

This is Catwoman about a year before Jason coming back as Red Hood. If you want a character who wants to protect sex workers and kids in low income areas, it’s Catwoman

Huntress has guns and kills, and the stuff with her conflicting with various Bats is really interesting (I really liked the Huntress/Spoiler: Blunt Trauma comic, as well as her other stuff in No Man’s Land)

Orpheus (Gavin King) wasn’t around for long, but he’s really interesting. He’s very anti-racism, and the comics about him directly show topics like racial profiling and police brutality. Again, someone who specifically protects people in low income areas, working in ways Batman can’t.

[firstdaddymajorbaddy]

You know what, I know that us Duke nation fellas have decied that Duke does not really look up to any of the Bat-Fam members (outside of maybe early Spoiler), but you know who he should look up to?, Orpheus

I still hold my headcanon of Gavin being an early foster parent of Duke

[vintagerobin]

oopsie. I meant your tags ranting about fanon Jason and I was like. What is wrong with Jason as a character and why is he on a hill. I mostly read that post as a critique of Batman not Jason

OHH. I was talking about the trend in fanon to have Jason as the Bat-associated character representing the oppressed, often in lieu of characters of color who would better fit that role. And how this has spread into actual canon now, with writers being forced to include Jason in order to write these storylines, as in Red Hood: The Hill. The Hill being a part of Gotham explicitly heavily affected by racism and police brutality, which was originally introduced alongside a hero named Orpheus as his territory, in Batman: Orpheus Rising.

And this is Orpheus in Orpheus Rising talking to Batman about how he "can't be everything to everyone", which is something that should apply to Jason for the exact same reasons.

Orpheus was killed in War Games, and hasn't been brought back in any subsequent reboots of canon. They've just given his home to Jason, more or less.

None of which is a fault of Jason's per se, just blatant racism in fandom and the comics industry.

[dc-megatournament]

Batman and Allies Tournament

Orpheus/Gavin King vs Julia Pennyworth

Orpheus

Julia Pennyworth

Voting ended onDec 9, 2024

[nichecomicstournament]

Round 2 Side 1 Match 4

Hobie Brown/The Prowler (Marvel)

Gavin King/Orpheus (DC)

Voting ended onJan 31, 2024

propaganda under the cut

Hobie Brown: Do people know about Hobie Brown? Yes, as of ATSV especially. Do people know about The Prowler? Absolutely. Do people know about Earth-616 Hobie Brown, The Prowler? (and I guess he's Hornet now but its. Honestly kinda really bullshit I'm ignoring that.) NO THEY DON'T. AND THEY SHOULD. He's like if Batman was awesome. Sorry Batman fans. He's Spider-Man's awesome friend who generally wants to be a normal guy and support his community in a normal way but keeps on having insane shit happen to him so like, having an alter ego in his back pocket to occasionally assume is useful. His older brother is a martial arts teacher who wants him to actually like learn how to fight correctly and then hes like uhh... I'll just invent a new thing haha. He's obscure on purpose. He has been mistaken for Moon Knight. His shit gets stolen like three times by ppl making the Prowler into a villain again which makes Aaron Davis Prowler really really ironic. PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT HIM after ATSV I'm so worried that he'll never appear as The Prowler again. Most of his 2010s appearances have been kinda weak and having him be Hornet is not really helping because they really did invent the fact that he was doing bad things as The Prowler. Not true. You made that up. I'm losing my mind over here.

Gavin King: HE DESERVED BETTER THAN THIS!!!

[firstdaddymajorbaddy]

Everytime I see people gushing about & simping for Roman Siniois I am always filled with this irrational bitterness as a Steph fan & someone who's interested in Gavin King

[firstdaddymajorbaddy]

Steph Fans (And Only Steph Fans) quick question

Do You Know Orpheus (Gavin King)

Yes

No

Voting ended onJan 8

[nichecomicstournament]

Round 1 Side 1 Match 8

Matthew Hawk/Two-Gun Kid (Marvel)

Gavin King/Orpheus (DC)

Voting ended onJan 21, 2024

propaganda under the readmore

Matthew Hawk: Matt is an underrated character- time-travelling Jewish cowboy defense lawyer!! He has just over a hundred appearances (removing the reprints) and he's an interesting, principled character who is definitely in love with Hawkeye, if you don't believe me read his West Coast Avengers appearances. Those specific issues are probably what most people know him from, but he's a great character in his own right and he deserves more love, especially after Slott turned him into a joke in the She-Hulk run

Gavin King: HE DESERVED BETTER THAN THIS!!!