Jason Todd from DC has OSDD-3
elaboration: specifically pre-lazarus pit/"catatonic jason todd" to use the Ao3 tag
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Jason Todd from DC has OSDD-3
elaboration: specifically pre-lazarus pit/"catatonic jason todd" to use the Ao3 tag
wait, im kinda confused now, doesn't osdd also develop from a trauma in childhood? Or am i missing something??
OSDD is not just the “plural disorder.” OSDD-1, the ones with alters and systems, does form from childhood trauma. OSDD is diagnosed when someone shows signs of a dissociative disorder, but does not meet criteria for an already existing dissociative disorder.
The main dissociative disorders are Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), Dissociative Amnesia, and Derealization Depersonalization Disorder (DPDR).
If one does not meet the criteria for those but shows signs of a dissociative disorder that significantly impacts their life and functioning, they can be diagnosed with OSDD; and usually the person will be given a reason as to why they were diagnosed with it, but not something else.
There’s technically 4 “types” of OSDD, but i remember that someone will not be diagnosed with “OSDD-1” or “OSDD-2.”
I feel it also important to mention that, according to the wiki, these are not actually types; they’re just examples of presentations that can be experienced or observed in those diagnosed with OSDD. There could be more and different examples of presentations possible with OSDD.
It is just all OSDD, and a reason will be specified. Taken directly from the wiki, “An example would be specifying "OSDD (dissociative trance)".”
Someone who shows signs of a dissociative disorder but doesn’t mean criteria for the ones above, and isn’t given a reason why, can be diagnosed with Unspecified Dissociative Disorder or UDD.
These guys can also potentially have alters and systems and the like, they just aren’t diagnosed with DID or OSDD either because of a lack of meeting criteria somehow, or more likely, because there’s a lack of sufficient time. Possibly other reasons as well.
Taken from the Wiki, these are the 4 descriptions of 4 example presentations that can be present in the “catch all” diagnosis of OSDD;
“Chronic and recurrent syndromes of mixed dissociative symptoms:
The DSM states, "This category includes identity disturbance associated with less-than-marked discontinuities in sense of self and agency, or alterations of identity or episodes of possession in an individual who reports no dissociative amnesia".
The ICD-11 describes this presentation as "Partial dissociative identity disorder".
(This is the one commonly referred to as OSDD-1/OSDD1, and OSDD-1A and OSDD-1B. Systems and alters, like DID, but not DID because they fail to meet a specific criteria to be diagnosed with DID. OSDD-1A and OSDD-1B are also community terms im sure, someone will not be diagnosed with these letters or terms or numbers.)
Identity disturbance due to prolonged and intense coercive persuasion:
The DSM gives the examples of "brainwashing, thought reform, programming, indoctrination while captive, torture, long-term political imprisonment, recruitment by sects/cults or by terror organizations." People with this presentation, as a result, may experience distressing changes to and/or questioning of their identity.
(This one is commonly called OSDD-2. A very well known but fictional example of this is the Winter Soldier/Bucky Barnes from the MCU and Peeta Mellark from the Hunger Games series, although neither are officially or canonically diagnosed.)
Acute dissociative reactions to stressful events:
This category is used for acute dissociative episodes which may last anywhere from a few hours to weeks, but typically less than a month. The dissociative conditions are characterised by "constriction of consciousness", including "depersonalization; derealization; perceptual disturbances (e.g., time slowing, macropsia); micro-amnesias; transient stupor; and/or alterations in sensory-motor functioning (e.g., analgesia, paralysis)."
(OSDD-3.)
Dissociative Trance:
This category represents a dissociative trance; "an acute narrowing or complete loss of awareness of immediate surroundings that manifests as profound unresponsiveness or insensitivity to environmental stimuli." The DSM specifies that "The dissociative trance is not a normal part of a broadly accepted collective cultural or religious practice".
In the ICD-11, this condition warrants a separate diagnosis of Trance disorder.”
(OSDD-4.)
So all in all, OSDD is simply a “catch all” diagnosis. Those diagnosed with it can have prolonged, childhood trauma—and those diagnosed with the first example presentation of OSDD typically and often do—but experiencing prolonged, childhood trauma is not a requirement or required thing to be diagnosed with OSDD.
“OSDD-2” is often even something that’s diagnosed due to extensive trauma, abuse, and manipulation experienced later in life as teenagers, young adults, adults, or even elderly.
One can experience this type of abuse as a child as well of course, but it’s not childhood specific.
Those who undergo the same type of abuse and trauma that those with “OSDD-2” (aka OSDD (Identity disturbance due to prolonged and intense coercive persuasion)) do, can instead be diagnosed with DID or “OSDD-1” (aka OSDD (Chronic and recurrent syndromes of mixed dissociative symptoms)) if they’re a system (because im pretty sure someone will not be diagnosed with two dissociative disorders, even if their experiences and symptoms match up or overlap with two), and not everyone who undergoes the abuse and trauma that those with OSDD-2 do will be diagnosed with OSDD-2 or any type of dissociative disorder.
For example, not every survivor of human trafficking or other forms of organized abuse develops a dissociative disorder or is diagnosed with OSDD-2, even if they experience some dissociative symptoms (likely as coping mechanisms, as opposed to the coercive and external, induced nature of dissociation in OSDD-2) and likely have PTSD/C-PTSD symptoms. Just the same as not every cult survivor is diagnosed with OSDD-2.
ok hear me out steven has autism, ptsd, and osdd-3 did you s33 the way he dissociated in full disclosure...
Hey there, I'm currently working with a psychiatrist on blanks (her way of saying dissociation) and I'm kind of worried about getting diagnosed with DID. Is DID the only illness where you experience dissociation?
no no no no. Everyone experiences dissociation. Most people don’t experience it in a way that interferes with life, though. Dissociation is often developed as a coping mechanism for trauma and overwhelming stress, though dissociation can be due to other things, as well. There are many dissociative disorders and disorders that can include dissociation. Dissociative disorders include:
Derealization/Depersonalization Disorder,
Dissociative Amnesia (Dissociative Amnesia is present in DID, but can also be its own disorder.)
OSDD (Otherwise Specified Dissociative Disorder) Link 2: X.
DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder), and
UDD (Unspecified Dissociative Disorder)
OSDD has multiple subtypes as well.
OSDD-1: Similar to DID, but either has less distinct parts (type 1a) or no amnesia (type 1b).
OSDD-2: Identity disturbance due to prolonged and intense coercive persuasion (I won’t lie, I don’t completely understand what OSDD-2 entails, I copy and pasted from traumadissociation.com)
OSDD-3: Acute Dissociation in response to stressful events. This dissociative disorder usually lasts less than a month, and often even less (hours, days, weeks).
OSDD-4: Dissociative trance.
“Problematic” dissociation can occur in Borderline Personality Disorder (criterion 9: transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms), Complex PTSD, psychosis, and probably others that I am not thinking of, as well.
Conversion Disorders may have dissociative components as well and are often found in people with dissociative disorders (ICD-10 classifies it as a dissociative disorder, but the DSM-5 classifies it as a somatoform disorder).Sorry for the long answer, but no, DID is not the only disorder that includes/can include dissociation.Hope this helped,Emily
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