you know i really want to know just WHAT was going through rick's mind when he wrote copollo into existence. like. what the the thought process here.
rick: ah yes, the first of the evil triumvirate who is a metaphor for capitalistic fucks. he is to be nero, the most vile and notorious emperor known to man because he was just AWFUL. and everyone will hate him even more because he psychologically and implies physical abuse of the beloved 12 year girl. also he's pathetic, because all dictators are.
rick: and yes, we cannot forget caligula, who is ALSO infamous for crazy shit BUT PLOT TWIST he's actually quite mentally sound here...for a sociopath, anyway. and everyone will ofc HATE HIS GUTS because he MURDERS JASON GRACE IN COLD BLOOD and LAUGHS ABOUT IT. the devil himself.
rick: i need one more. hmm... *scrolls through list of bad emperors* huh. commodus. into gladiatorial combat and lost his marbles so bad he was strangled in the bath by his own personal trainer.
rick: should i take this step. i will never be able to take it back.
rick's inner homoerotic writer:
rick: ...AND COMMODUS WILL BE APOLLO'S TOXIC EX SITUATIONSHIP WHERE AFTER JUST TWO FLASHBACK SEQUENCES THAT TOPS EVERY OTHER BIT OF ROMANCE I'VE EVER WRITTEN, READERS WILL FALL TO THEIR KNEES AND SOB OVER HOW BEAUTIFULLY HORRIBLE THEY ARE FOR EACH OTHER AND THEY WILL KICK SCREAM AND CRY WHEN THEIR TITULAR ROMANTIC LINE "YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE MY BLESSINGS" IS EVER USED AND IT WILL FIRST CULIMATE IN APOLLO BLINDING COMMODUS AND THEN END WITH HIM SCREAMING HIM TO DUST, HANDS 'ROUND HIS THROAT JUST AS IT ALWAYS WOULD HAVE BEEN!!!!!!!
rick: also two innuendoes between them. as a treat.
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The Copollogism Essays - Part 4: Leo's Questions/Seeing Commodus Again
THE RETURN OF THE ALDER ! ! ! ! !
From The Book: Part 1 (The Tent) ~ Part 2 (The Assassination) ~ Part 3 (Lester's Reaction) ~ Part 4 (Leo's Questions/Seeing Commodus Again) ~ Part 5 (The Arena) ~ Part 6 (The Waystation) ~ Part 7 (The Yacht) ~ Part 8 (The Final Moment)
Analysis: Part 1 (Apollo and Commodus as Individuals) ~ Part 2 (Toxic Relationship?) ~ Part 3 (Codependent - Or Is It?) ~ Part 4 (Other Thoughts)
it's copollo time yo
we're doing two different scenes so buckle up buttercups!!
Leo's Questions
“So what’s with you and the emperor?” Leo asked me, his feet pedaling merrily along as if the exertion didn’t bother him at all.
I wiped my brow. “I don’t know what you mean.”
“C’mon, man. At dinner, when Meg started shouting about commodes? You ran straight to the bathroom and spewed.”
“I did not spew. It was more like heaving.”
“Ever since, you’ve been awfully quiet.”
- Chapter 20, The Dark Prophecy
I really want to bring attention to how Leo, in his own roundabout way, tries to find out why Commodus upset Apollo so much <3 These two have a LOT in common, so I think it's fascinating how Leo is the one to reach out and give Apollo an opportunity to talk about what happened.
"Ever since, you've been awfully quiet." Leo says, meaning he notices what is normal for Apollo, and what isn't. And he tries to help!
Don't forget that this is not the first time Leo's met Apollo either - the first time, Apollo suggested killing him (and Hazel and Frank). Now, we the ToA fandom know that was very likely a bluff, but Leo doesn't!
And yet, he still shows compassion, in his very Leo-like way <3
Because let's also remember - Apollo is the reason Leo is alive.
Apollo gave Leo the Curse of Delos, allowing him to survive the fight with Gaea and rescue Calypso.
Apollo and Leo can be something so personal <3
Murdering Commodus was traumatic for Apollo. Something that can help with trauma is talking about it with others. Apollo has with Jo, and now he discusses it with Leo and Meg.
These three - Jo, Leo, Meg - are the ONLY ONES in the ENTIRE SERIES to hear from Apollo himself what went down between him and Commodus. As far as we know, they don't tell anybody else either. It's only them.
“Commodus blames me for his death,” I said.
“Why?” Meg asked.
“Probably because I killed him.”
“Ah.” Leo nodded sagely. “That would do it.”
WHEEZE Leo you and Apollo are MEANT to be friends. humor to lighten the mood? instant friendship, go commit arson together <3
I managed to tell them the story. It wasn’t easy. As I stared ahead of us, I imagined the body of Commodus floating just below the surface of the canal, ready to rise from the icy green depths and accuse me of treachery. You. Blessed. Me.
...and there's the water-related PTSD. ouch.
When I was done with the story, Leo and Meg remained silent. Neither of them screamed Murderer! Neither of them looked me in the eye, either.
Fair reaction, all things considered. I myself wouldn't know quite what to say or do if someone I knew told me how they had no choice but to kill their lover in cold-blood.
“That’s rough, man,” Leo said at last. “But it sounds like Emperor Toilet needed to go.”
LEO !! VALIDATING !! APOLLO'S !! ACTIONS !!
THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE APOLLO NEEDS FRIENDS AND FRIENDS WHO TELL HIM WHEN HE DID THE RIGHT THING !!
IMPORTANT FOR HEALTHY COMMUNICATION !!
THEY ARE FRIENDS YOUR HONOR !!
Meg made a sound like a cat’s sneeze. “It’s Commodus. He’s handsome, by the way.”
I glanced back. “You’ve met him?”
don't sound so eager Apollo lmao i'm joking
“Once,” she said. “In New York. He visited my stepfather.”
“Nero,” I urged. “Call him Nero.”
“Yeah.” Red blotches appeared on her cheeks. “Commodus was handsome.”
I rolled my eyes. “He’s also vainglorious, puffed up, egotistical—”
“So he’s like your competition, then?” Leo asked.
“Oh, shut up.”
*cackling*
let's look at this real quick.
firstly, Meg 100% thinks Commodus is hot.
secondly, Apollo's immediate reaction to finding that out is to point out all of Commodus's flaws, meaning he knows just how flawed Commodus is.
thirdly, Leo teasingly points out his hypocrisy, and all Apollo does in response is "Oh, shut up."
delightful little exchange, with a valuable piece of information in there to boot!
“One thing I don’t get,” Leo said. “Why Commodus? I mean, if this
Triumvirate is the three biggest and baddest emperors, the Roman supervillain dream team…Nero makes sense. But Commode Man? Why not some eviler, more famous guy, like Murderous Maximus or Attila the Hun?”
“Attila the Hun was not a Roman emperor,” I said. “As for Murderous Maximus…well, that’s actually a good name, but not a real emperor. As for why Commodus is part of the Triumvirate—”
“They think he’s weak,” Meg said.
we're going to come back to this.
She kept her gaze on our wake, as if she saw her own assortment of faces below the surface.
“You know this how?” I asked.
“My step—Nero told me. Him and the third one, the emperor in the west, they wanted Commodus between them.”
I wonder what that discussion was like.
Nero: hey uncle for this to work we need someone between us. to keep us from trying to stab each other to death Caesar-style.
Caligula: a triumvirate. excellent. absolutely nothing can go wrong with a triumvirate of the evilest, baddest, most notorious emperors of all time! But who-?
Commodus, exploding out of the nearest river, in a manic rage, screaming for bloodlust:
Nero & Caligula, evilly nodding: oh yeah. that one. that one would do juuuust fiiiine.
in all seriousness though, it really does sound like Nero and Caligula were alive first, and Commodus was added later! Caligula was the first to die out of these three, with Nero being the second - that is, if he killed himself in the RRverse same as historical him. He very well could have already made himself a pseudo-god and faked his death...
Caligula, though, was murdered by his own guard, so he had to have been resurrected - perhaps at Nero's behest? Ooo! Perhaps Nero thought he could get Caligula indebted to him, but underestimated just how...uh...batshit his uncle is, and quickly grew to fear him?!?!
perhaps then leading to a proposition of a Triumvirate, and looking back at the past emperors of Rome...they found Commodus.
I have no idea how they could have found out about Apollo & Commodus until Commodus himself told them, so here's another theory:
Nero and Caligula found Commodus in the Underworld, perhaps trying to track down which emperor to join their Triumvirate.
Now, I have a personal headcanon about how Commodus stayed out of the Fields of Punishment. I even wrote a fic about it.
So this is all STRICTLY headcanon! We are in the thumbtacks and strings zone. Tinfoil hats for everyone!!
In any case, they manage to find Commodus in limbo, and upon hearing his MANY greviences with Apollo, decide he's the one.
“So Nero and the dude in the west,” Leo said, “they want Commodus to be a buffer between them. Monkey in the middle.”
Meg rubbed her nose. “Yeah. Nero told me….He said Commodus was like his Peaches. A vicious pet. But controllable.”
what an interesting why to describe your coworker...hmm.
really makes you think on how Nero, at least, sees Commodus. We'll talk more on Caligula and Commodus in The Tyrant's Tomb.
Nero seems to see Commodus as a tool to use, just like he does with everyone. It's especially interesting how he specifically uses animal metaphors to describe Commodus - even Leo indirectly contributes to this image of Commodus!
A monkey is commonly seen as a wild creature. Then we have Peaches, a very wild nature spirit.
Both of these individuals can be vicious, as Nero said. When provoked.
You know what that reminds me of?
Don't poke the lion.
curious how it's the lion Commodus wraps himself in, and yet he is perceived as this animal that's been brought to heel. A pet, as Meg explains. A predator, even, to draw out and frighten the Triumvirate's chosen prey...
Controlled, with the promise of revenge.
and yet, we must ask him and ourselves - what will happen after that revenge? when his use against Apollo has run out?
nothing good, that's for sure; for the world, and no doubt for Commodus himself.
against even one of the other two emperors, he is the weakest. his only purpose was to be a buffer between them.
to them, Commodus is no threat. not at all.
Seeing Commodus Again
I peeked over the edge of the channel and was immediately sorry I did.
Commodus was right there.
- Chapter 22, The Dark Prophecy
AN EXCELLENT START 10/10 HILARIOUS
Lester sure did have his "Shit, it's my ex!" moment!
Thank the gods, we had crossed slightly behind his throne, so neither he nor his Germani guards saw me. My least favorite Cornhusker, Lityerses, knelt before the emperor, facing my direction, but his head was lowered. I ducked back below the edge before he could spot me. I gestured to my friends: Quiet. Yikes. We’re going to die. Or something to that effect. They seemed to get the message. Shivering miserably, I pressed against the wall and listened to the conversation going on just above us.
“—part of the plan, sire,” Lityerses was saying. “We know where the
Waystation is now.”
Commodus grunted. “Yes, yes. Old Union Station. But Cleander searched that place several times before and found nothing.”
pardon me but HISTORY NUT TIME!
Cleander was the name of Commodus's chief advisor! Well, his second chief advisor, who may have had a hand in assassinating the first one, who at the time had been a close friend of Commodus.
interesting implication that Commodus isn't aware of that. furthermore, it's interesting that Cleander (if it's the same guy) was allowed to return to work despite his MASSIVE FAILURES during his time in Rome.
like. look up Commodus, find his wiki page, find Cleander, click on the link, read about him. absolute DINGUS. look Commodus 100% had a hand in the downfall of Rome, mainly because he shuffled his duties off to other (untrustworthy) people, but BY GOD CLEANDER...CLEANDER WAS A BIG PART OF IT.
he had a MOB ready to tear him apart, and it scared it so much he went running to Commodus to save him. if i remember correctly, Commodus quit literally threw him to the wolves. i might be wrong on that so READ UP on Cleander please and roll your eyes at how abysmally he failed.
good lord how embarrassing.
perhaps he started at the VERY bottom of the ladder. and since Commodus goes through right-hand men VERY quickly, that's how he ended up as chief advisor once again.
before being killed, of course. by our man Lityerses, Reaper of Men.
“The Waystation is there,” Lityerses insisted. “The tracking devices I planted on the griffins worked perfectly. The place must be protected by some sort of magic, but it won’t stand up to a fleet of blemmyae bulldozers.”
My heart climbed above water level, which put it somewhere between my ears. I dared not look at my friends. I had failed once again. I had unwittingly betrayed the location of our safe haven.
Commodus sighed. “Fine. Yes. But I want Apollo captured and brought to me in chains! The naming ceremony is tomorrow. Our dress rehearsal is, like, right now. When can you have the Waystation destroyed?”
Lityerses hesitated. “We need to scout the defenses. And gather our forces. Two days?”
“TWO DAYS? I’m not asking you to cross the Alps! I want it to happen now!”
“Tomorrow, then, at the latest, sire,” said Lityerses. “Definitely by
tomorrow.”
“Hmph. I’m beginning to wonder about you, son of Midas. If you don’t deliver—”
why in chains specifically commodus- i'm sorry i'll see myself out
another very interesting relationship to discuss is between Commodus and Lityerses.
there's some type of stepdad-stepson thing going on here, faintly. it's not focused on much, but reading between the lines (and knowing what we know about Lityerses and Midas) we can conclude that Lityerses, at least, sees Commodus as a surrogate father-figure.
unfortunately, he may be even worse than Midas rip
hmm...hrm...
you know...this makes me wonder. is Commodus perhaps reflecting Marcus Aurelius's parenting style, or could he be projecting what he thought he felt from his father's rebukes and lectures? putting these unreasonable expectations onto another in an effort to make himself feel powerful and in control?
much to chew on here. hrm hrm hrm...
get some damn therapy Commodus.
“Incursion at the front gates!”
Lityerses growled. “I will deal with this, sire. Never fear. Guards, with me!”
Heavy footsteps faded into the distance.
I glanced at Meg and Leo, who were both giving me the same silent question: What the Hades?
I had not ordered an incursion at the front gates. I hadn’t even activated the iron manacle on my ankle. I didn’t know who would be so foolish as to launch a frontal assault on this underground palace, but Britomartis had promised to look for the Hunters of Artemis. It occurred to me that this was the sort of diversionary tactic they might arrange if they were trying to distract Commodus’s security forces from our presence. Could we be so lucky? Probably not. More likely, some magazine-subscription salesman had rung the emperor’s doorbell and was about to get a very hostile reception.
I risked another peek over the edge of the canal. Commodus was alone now with just one guard.
Perhaps we could take him—three on two?
Except that we were all about to pass out from hypothermia, Meg probably had some broken ribs, and my own powers were unpredictable at best. On the opposing team, we had a trained barbarian killer and a semi-divine emperor with a well-deserved reputation for superhuman strength. I decided to stay put.
a very wise decision, Apollo. Marcus Aurelius would be proud.
Commodus glanced at his bodyguard. “Alaric.”
“Lord?”
“I think your time is approaching. I grow impatient with my prefect. How long has Lityerses had this job?”
“About a day, my lord.”
“Seems like forever!” Commodus pounded his fist on his armrest. “As soon as he’s dealt with this incursion, I want you to kill him."
see what i mean by 'going through prefects real fast'? Lityerses dodged a bullet.
“Yes, lord.”
“I want you to wipe out the Waystation tomorrow morning at the latest. Can you do that?”
“Of course, lord.”
“Good! We’ll have the naming ceremony immediately afterward in the
colosseum.”
“Stadium, my lord.”
fun fact I've been to the Colts Stadium for a high school trip.
“Same difference! And the Cave of Prophecy? Is it secure?”
My spine took a jolt of electricity so strong I wondered if Commodus kept electric eels in the channel.
“I have followed your orders, sire,” Alaric said. “The beasts are in place. The entrance is well guarded. None shall gain access.”
“Lovely!” Commodus jumped to his feet. “Now let’s go try on our racing outfits for the dress rehearsal, shall we? I can’t wait to remake this city in my own image!”
Commodus tries on his racing clothes...meaning he puts meticulous detail and attention into his visage...he appears exactly as he wants to appear...
I waited until the sound of their footsteps receded. I peeked over and saw no one in the room.
“Now,” I said.
We dragged ourselves out of the canal and stood dripping and shivering in front of the golden throne. I could still smell the scent of Commodus’s favorite body oil—a mix of cardamom and cinnamon.
APOLLO STILL REMEMBERS THE SCENT OF COMMODUS'S FAVORITE BODY OIL DO I NEED TO SAY ANYTHING MORE
anywho this is why i'm obsessed with giving Commodus those SPECIFIC scents in my fics. always.
though also remember he has roses in his bathwater...(does he still, you think? hmm...)
hey. cardamom symbolizes love, health, and prosperity. cinnamon symbolizes protection, prosperity, and health.
...Commodus. you aren't fooling us.
I can easily interpret this. *cracks knuckles*
you see, the protection part is important because Commodus is trying hard to not only kill, but sacrifice Apollo - doing so will grant him ultimate power, as per Trophonius's prophecy. Thus, granting him protection - from Apollo, and from the other emperors.
Health and prosperity is simple - that's part of what Commodus wants. He wants to be immortal, eternally handsome and hale. He wants to reign in a kingdom of his own, with entertainment to spare.
but even if he manages to get all of that...it won't be enough. because we all know that deep down, what he desires - nay, covets the most...is love.
how intriguing. to gain the power he wants, he must quite literally sacrifice the only person he ever loved.
In between The Dark Prophecy and The Burning Maze is probably when Commodus and Caligula teamed up (and now I can't stop thinking about how Commodus was probably on one of those many yachts - so close to the action, yet so far away lol)
And this is how I think their conversations went XD
