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Healthy Competition Transcript: 7/25/21
It's the entire thing so I hope this helps!
W: Hey.. Phil
P: Oh.. Hey
W: Hey, hey Phil how’s it going? How's It going man?
P: Oh, it's going, it's going alright.
W:I just thought I'd visit, Phil. I just thought you knew I would come and visit you. I haven’t seen you in awhile.
W: Phil I must confess I have come to you with a bit of a proposition. You into propositions Phil? Are you a proposition kind of guy?
P: Oh it depends depends, oh you, you’ve had some pretty lets just say not a great track record of propositions you’ve had in the past
W: I mean I’m trying to move past that. Listen Phil, I met Quackity after you kindly lent me your house, I went and met him, I met up with him, and I hadn't seen him in ages and it was nice, it felt good. He didn't seem afraid of me. Which is cool, not many people do. Phil, you don’t seem afraid of me?
P: No. No not at all
W: Good. Good because I’m not afraid of you. Uh.. Listen I met quackity and I hung out with him and I came to one conclusion about him and MY GOD the pricks resourceful aint he.
P: Yes.. he’s very.. he's one of the richest on the server at the minute. He's one of the richest people
W: What happened? What? You, you are telling me Quackity, the guy who made SWAG party, would be the richest man, geez I wouldn’t have believed you for a second but here we are.
But look, Phil, I am a bit of a propagator of the idea that capitalism shouldn’t be unchecked. You know the free market, maybe isn’t ever really that free you know. I am a bit into my interjection, you know the government interjection but there’s isn't a government anymore phi its anarchy it's pretty much what ah I see his name I see his name. (Ran boo)
P: Ha, Ha you see it
W: As much as I disagree with your opinions on anarchy. It's pretty harmless. I can’t hate you for it. I can’t hate you for literally living in a peaceful little village in the snow, I mean the server, it's never been this peaceful since the countries and nations and cities… So Phil I came to you with one question. Do you think quackity should be allowed to be left unchecked?
P: Uh no.
W: Do you think he should be allowed to grow? Oh you answered already. I agree with you Phil, I also don’t think quackity should be allowed to be left unchecked.
But you know what the problem is, there’s no Interpol, there’s no government, there’s no police force.. Technoblade spent this entire time taking down the establishment and what he's left with as predicted a POWER VACUUM for a new establishment to come in and this establishment is ahh ahh pretty unethical Phil its gambling, you a fan of gambling
P: Oh gods
W: This servers like 50% children Phil..
P: oh gods that's terrible.. yeah no that's awful.
W: ahh haha don’t sound too..
P: Gambling ruins peoples lives dude.
W: TRUE TRUE! And you know what He's getting away with , Phil. I have a proposition for you, I am glad you’re on my side and glad you agree with this Phil. I want to make a burger van.
P: Oh….
W I know when you heard of the burger van, you walked away. I get it. It's a bit of deja vu, but the difference is the burger van isnt gonna sell drugs. We are against toxic money making schemes now. We GENUINELY, genuinely selling burgers, I want to make burgers, I want to make every stake so it has a name. And. And uh (Wilbur re reads the book “Project Nevadas” Quackity left for him)
P: It definitely sounds better than the drug van,
W: yeah yeah yeah that's what I’m going to do Phil, but you see you need to understand I need someone to help me, because I’m not doing this for any reason outside of “I have an aspiration.. a goal in life to be a culinary expert” I want to be chef now Phil. I’m done now with being a President, being a government, being an authority, I want to be a burger man. I wanna sell burgers. That's my calling. That's been my calling all along. There's no ulterior motive behind this plan. I’ve got the real-estate, I’ve got the know-how and I’ve got the chutzpah (it's a yiddish word for guts basically woooo). Phil are you in?
P:I mean, ahh. You know I don’t know much about making burgers and burger vans, but I want to know who does?
W: Who?
P: Ranboo. He could help out.
W: what the fuck does he know about burgers?
P: he's literally the richest most knowledgeable person on the server besides me -
W: Phil you called - that's literally the second person you called the richest on the server. How does being rich climate him know about burgers?
P: Well you said you needed bread, you said you needed resources.. he has everything you could need.
W: What do you mean?
P: And also, he kinda knows… Right i'll be honest i'll be honest will, he's a little bit lonely, um there’s not much going on out here we are in a wilderness, a snowy blizzard wilderness right? Nothing goes on, nothing really happens here.
W: ha haha, sorry sorry. I didn’t mean to laugh at him being lonely. That shouldn’t of tickled me.
P: He needs something to keep him busy, to keep him occupied. He's done everything on the server, he's literally done everything. Give him, give him something else to do. Have fun.
W: I don’t want to. I genuinely don't want to. He's weird Phil. he's the weird neighbor kid.
P: oh STOP no stop!
W: Look at him he's that weird neighbor kid who's got something going on, you know maybe in the basement or something there’s something going on right.
P: he's harmless he's harmless
W: he's harmless now, give him a burger van and he might spatula me. Phil looks at me. Can you imagine a spatula through my skull? Huh?
P: That's not gonna happen. He’s very nice. Go make friends. Alright
W: All I need is a fire aspect sword, a bunch of cows, an anvil and some levels and we can do this Phil.
P: And he (ranboo) can give you all of those.
W: Oh my gosh stop making me play with the neighbor kids.
P: Alright stop I’m putting my foot down. If you don’t go play with them right now, I’m kicking you out of the house.
W: What the fuck?! What do you mean? Kicking? You can’t just kick- ohhhhh
P: I can and will.
W: Phil I’m ah…
P: Be nice. Go say hi, he's great. He's a great guy
W: Look Phil I trust you, I'll trust you this much, and I'll trust you that he's fine and he can help me, BUT if he's shit, you gotta come help. You gotta be burger boy with me.
P: I’ll be around, I'll be around, he's fine, you'll be fine, you guys will get along so well.
W: Thanks Phil…
P: You got this Wil, bye mate.
W: I don’t really want… What is this, why is he treating me like a kid? Like a little baby? Oh shit he's got cows…. Ah aH oh god I wasn’t built for this (gets attacked by a spider which he then crits the spider) There we go.. My man got cows. This bread as well?? No,it's not that he can farm apparently. Wait, that is bread. Wait… was that fire aspect? Is this a set up? I guess I'll befriend him… Knock knock - oh
R: woah oh
W: Hi Ranboo
R: Woah hello
W: You remember me?
R: Yeah I remember you. How are you? Its been awhile
W: It's been a little while, I mean we only met once, I mean I was just coming through visiting me pa, in his little cottage in the snow, very cute in the snow isn't it?
R: Yeah it is very nice
W: I just happened to notice you have a lot of cows.
R: Yeah! yeah I have a nice little cow farm, it's been pretty good for food recently so its been kind of yeah.
W: Can you hit one of them with your sword again please?
R: You want me to kill one?
W: Yeah quickly
R: yeah okay
W: Ranboo, I have a proposition for you
R: Yeah what’s that?
W: I know we have not got off on the best of terms but I'd like to think bygones be bygones let's bury the hatchet, let's be..
R: Yeah
W: Ranboo I’m gonna go out on a limb here, do you want to be friends?
R: S- Sure. I don’t see why not. You seem alright.
W: Cool cool. Thank you, thank you, you seem alright too. Can I come inside?
R: Oh yeah sure sure
W: I have a proposition for you.
R: Do you like my live laugh love sign?
W: Why is life capitalized?
R: it's the most important one
W: Ha, living is the most important one, living Is above laughing and loving?
R: Yeah it's priority number one honestly I just look at it when I wanna know what to do.
W: ha, okay, look look my proposition to you, um (looking at the ranboo rug)
R: Yeah its um it's my nice little rug here
W: We, we will talk in the hallway, my promotion to you ranboo was, as I have a dream of being a culinary chef.
R: Oh really! Thats nice
W: I’ve been doing a lot of things on this server. You know? President, terrorist, dead.
R: yeah that's one of them
W: I feel like the next progression is chef. Every, you know the saying….
R: okay…
W: All musicians wanna be comedians, and all dead terrorist presidents wanna be chefs. So I decided I wanna be a chef.
R: Okay! Okay.
W: I want to be a chef for no other reason than I like cooking okay?
R: Cool!
W: All I need though, is I don’t have much to my name. I have a lot of stones, I have some TnT, I have some stone tools, and a rabbit's foot.
R: Oh okay.
W: But I don’t have the cows, I don’t have the fire aspect sword, and I thought if you wanted to we could um you could we could be business partners. I’ve got the real-estate. I’ve got a great location. It’s gonna be bustling, with people eventually, there’s gonna be people coming and going, hungry too! They’re gonna be coming and going, in and out and in and out and we’ll be here
R: Yeah…
W: And get the money! We will get the money Ranboo.
R: I mean yeah sure I’ve been needing something to do, I’m down for that. That would be cool.
W: Cool, cool come with me. I gotta show you the real-estate.
R: I’m actually really glad
W: I see this as the blooming of a brilliant business relationship or a business partnership. Have you heard of Las Nevadas?
R: ohhh… yeah, yeah I remember I had an old, old cookie stand there awhile back that we just decided to abandon because it was just.. it was more just trouble.
W: A cookie stand?
R: It was more trouble than it was honestly worth.
W: Wait, you tried? You had a cookie stand?
R: I mean yeah….
W: Outside of Las Nevadas? So you did the cooking?
R: Yeah it was a little, yeah
W: Outside of Las Nevadas?
R: Yeah but then, but then, he the guy Quackity, he got all up in arms about it and everything because we decided to expand a little bit and then we just decided it was, it was too much troubles so then we kinda just, we kinda just left it so
W: So he didn't like it? He didn't like your selling of a cookie stand?
R: Yeah he didn't like it all too much. I don’t, I don’t know what it was but like it was just eh it was just more dumb conflict but eh ti was whwatever.
W: Well that's fine, that's fine because we’re Ranboo we’re not gonna annoy quackity… we can’t annoy him because we are simply put, gonna be making, I got the real-estate and he gave me the area and we are going to be making a competing business.
R: okay…
W: Because competition makes business flourish, the consumer.. Do you like the consumer? You’re a bit- a big fan of the consumer ranboo?
R: Yeah yeah, I consume things from time to time
W: Look Ranboo the consumer, the consumer is the one who does well when there is um conflict and competition right?
R: Yeah that makes sense
W: So what I want to do is make competition right? So I want to make competition so when Las Nevadas fully opens up and you can go gambling and stuff I want to make it so that people have options so people don't just have to eat at las Nevadas grills and such. So if they want they can come to our grill,
R: Yeah that's good
W: and the difference is that is that we will make our grill better than theirs and we will make lots of money and then quackity will be able to you know maybe have to make a deal with us and to maybe be our friend and and
R: But we are gonna do this respectfully right? We are gonna do something smaller and everything right?
W: Yeah I have the land and we can make it small and honestly there’s no reason for us to go further out then we need to because you know we got the location. So have you ever been in Las Nevadas or gambling Ranboo?
R: Well no, no one has actually been there when I’ve been there.
W: It’s very fun, gambling is very fun.
R: Ah
W: Gambling is what I would argue like the only reason to go to this Las Nevadas place, I mean there’s nothing else to do there
R: Okay…
W: Its like its ll that happens you know
R: Yeah just gambling
W: There's a strip club there Ranboo
R: OH yeah! For logs
W: You- you into strippers?
R: Um I mean all it just does is make the wood look different so it doesn’t really do much
W: It does make the wood look different. You’re right, you’re right Ranboo. Would you say you like Quackity? Sorry I’m really bombing you with questions right now - eh I just wanna, I want to pick your brain. I wanna know how Ranboo works.
R: Hmm no its okay its okay. I’m completely okay with it, yeah. Um I think that I, hes, I mean the thing is I just haven't seen him in so like long you know the last interaction with him I had was before the stuff that happened with everything else it's just kind of been I don't know, we were part of the same cabinet with New Lmanburg or whatever it was.
W: Cabniet…
R: Yeah Canbiet it was like…
W: A canbiet? Was this with Tubbo…?
R: Yeah yeah he had like me, Fundy, I was the minutes man and I wrote stuff down well they never checked my notes so I don’t know how useful my job was honestly. I don't know if they actually needed me but I was there.
W: Yeah yeah I know that. I know that feeling.
R: Yeah
W: So you were part of the old Lmaburg government? I didn’t know that actually.
R: Yeah, yeah
W: I thought you were a bit of an independent. I thought you were you know… so you would say you are friends with Quackity?
R: I mean yeah.. I mean I’m not really TOO much against him, but I mean yeah
W: Do you dislike anyone Ranboo?
R: Not.. too much I dont think. I mean there are other people I don't agree with of course but I think everyones just a product of what they have gone through and everything so if you understand that then you understand that, then you understand the person.
W: But don’t you think there’s sometimes allying yourself with everyone you know, it can actually make your life more complicated, more complex, more difficult…. more…
R: Yeah….. which is why I’ve kinda just went to live with Techno and Phil kind of away from everything. And try not to involve myself in that much. But then I just have a terrible radar of what is involving myself and what isn't so.
W: Right..
R: It's difficult sometimes.
W: It sounds like you set yourself up for a bit of a stressful, stressful life… So you don’t dislike anyone?
R: Yeah…
W: What about Dream?
R: Ummm yeah Well that's that. With Dream it's kind of like, all I’ve, all I’ve heard about Dream, all I’ve seen about Dream is just been the really bad things that he's done and everything so I would say I- I yeah I don’t really like Dream, but I mean he's also not really someone that it matters whether or not I like him because he's away in that prison for a very long time, so I mean, yeah.
W: With no trail.
R: Well I mean.. he… its
W: This is our competition Ranboo!
R: Oh!
W: Here's the competition
R: Okay. No ones really been here I dont think…
W: Can you even buy anything?
R: I don’t think they have half, half doors… they have
W: Smokers, Furnaces, they don't, it's just nothing
R: Huh.
W: It doesn't benefit the consumer Ranboo does it? Imagine you come here gambling.. First off the fucking door is shut
R: Mhm
W: Wait there’s a hole…
R: ohh… uh? that's interesting. I haven't been here in awhile, I just haven't been outside in awhile honestly.
W: Are we allowed… in?
R: I dont… I dont know.
W: It looks like crap Ranboo. Don't bother, it looks awful.
R: Oh, oh okay. Okay.
W: The point is this does not benefit the consumer right? This building does not benefit the consumer, it's just made to look pretty and make the consumer feel like.. lee do a test. I can promise you me ol, or should I say new pal, that this sign, I guarantee will not go. That will be here forever and that will never leave. (Signs that say “closed forever” “Quackity burger place is crap” “Go behind this building to better burgers'')
R: It's.. I don't know if abandoned is the right word, I don't know what you call it.
W: There we go, I guarantee these signs will stay there because they don’t care about the customer. They only care about looking cool and ooh ooh we got a restaurant, no they dont.
R: Yeah no one is really keeping it up.
W: Let me show you the real-estate. This is the best part, so come with me. Bah bum ba bum bum bum bum ba Oh ranboo, do you see the cock ranboo?
R: Oh that's what that is? I thought it was a clock actually
W: See that cock?
R: Yeah I see it.
W: That's our border. Well, technically, this wood is our border. This area.
R: Okay.
W: This area is ours. I’ve been trying to think of a name for it.
R: Hmm
W: I’m thinking about Paradise.
R: Paradice…
W: How’d you think about Paradise Ranboo?
R: Well I mean it could be good word play with the whole gambling thing.. pair of dice.
W: That is good.. you, you really are a smart cookie, a smart kind of guy.
R: Thank you!
W: Well, this is where I’ve been sort of working. So this is sort of where Tommy and I have been working. Tommy sadly couldn’t be here to help me, and um let me show you where I think we should make the burger van.
R: okay
W: Well I think it should be, it's to be close to the border so that people can access it and then get straight back to gambling. The customer, the customer, is happy, the customer gets their burgers and then goes straight back to gambling. How about we build it here, right here.
R: Right here? Okay that works. So what do you have in mind, you seem to have a vision.
W: 1950s… burger, retro. Red and white stripes.
R: Red and White okay, I have Blue?
W:Blue…
R: I have blue.
W: I’m not a big fan of Blue.
R: oh okay well I don’t really know where to get a lot of red.
W: Flowers… I can get you red. Ranboo you seem to be proficient, you can start building the van I’ll be back.
R: Alright..
W: Also, also give me your fire aspect, I’ll get the beef and then we can begin and we can get the bread.
R: okay uh here
W: Ran-orad, Ranaord? Ranord.
R: I name all my things with different puns. It's just Ran and sword
W: That's good, that's a good one, new friend, I like it. This isn't drawing any parallels to your cookie shop right? This is a completely different feeling?
R: yeah no the cookie shop I’m pretty sure, I don't even know if it was a cookie shop to begin with… because it was a little fortified if i'm entirely honest…
W: Fortified?
R: yeah did you not see like oh! That giant stone structure as you came in here and walked around
W: oH wait, that's a cookie shop?
R: Yeah
W: I thought it was like a, I thought it was like a palisade
R: no I mean tubbo told me it was for cookies but I’m thinking about it now..
W: oh tubbo.. tubbo.
R: I don’t think it was
W: See I like tubbo man, he's strong headed and he doesn't let people push him around.
R: Yeah yeah
W: Did you learn a lot? Did you learn a lot from him?
R: Maybe yeah, I also just, if people aren't willing to change their views or anything I find it unnecessary to mindlessly argue so.
W: So Ranboo you say this yet you show up in all the conflict. I’m not I’m not coming at you like judging you, I'm not one to talk about conflict.
R: Mhm mhm
W: But when I think of Ranboo I don't think of what a calm guy who’s neutral and stays out of everything, I don't think of Switzerland when I think of you ranboo, I think I think you're a bit more dynamic than that, why do you claim that you’re so peaceful and neutral and yet you appear in almost every conflict the server has had since I died.
R: I mean ah, that's because I’m bad at avoiding the thing that I don't like, which is, I don’t know it's it's weird. It's a weird situation that it's mostly my fault but I’ve been doing alright with it recently. I haven't been doing too much to anger people I don't think but I think it's just because I really want to help sometimes and sometimes I let my desire to help people get in the way of what I have previously said or previously claimed about myself.
W: Ranboo? Why did you come to help me?
R: Well because I think, well I need one I kind of need something to do and this is pretty fun, I like building little things and everything although they may not look too good and also I just think you can I think you are an alright person you know? So I kind of wanted to get off on a better foot from what happened before.
W: Why?
R: Just because I don't really like having the thought that people don't really like me.
W: No no not the bit about the right foot, why don’t you think I’m a bad person?
R: Well I mean I think you did bad things but you also went through things that made you that way and then I also think that you’re changed now. I mean if you ask me to talk to the older Wilbur before you died, for a little bit then yeah I would think you’re kind of not a good person.
But I think now you’ve apparently been away long enough, that I think if anyone goes away long enough for that long of a time that eventually they’ll have a thought of their morality, and everything and become a better person because of it. So, I'm hopeful. I’m hopeful. I like having a good amount of optimism.
W: Cool.. ah cool that's nice, thank you.
R: Yeah!
W: Uh, I think I needed to hear that, I’ve um, can I be real with you? Sorry Ranboo, you really got me. Fucking hell can I be real with you man?
R: Yeah sure.
W: I think I scare people.
R: I mean, yeah I do the same thing
W: No no, I mean I don't think I, I think a lot of people share your idea in trying to try… to keep me from hurting you know? They have seen what I can do and they don’t want me to do it again, so they adopt your emotion in order to do it.
Do you know I demolished his house and brutally ignored him? He fought for my country! And I ignored him. I didn't look at him. I didn't give him so much a medal, I didn't give him so much a rank, I gave him the lowest rank in the cabinet, and do you know what it took? Do you know what it took for him to forgive me? A “sorry” And I’ve, I’ve spoken to Tommy about Jack Manifold, and Jack Manifold is NOT the sort of person to forgive with a sorry.
Can you imagine if Dream said sorry to Jack Manifold? What has Dream done to Jack Manifold huh? Barely anything. I imagine if Dream said sorry to Jack Manifold, Jack Manifold would ignore him. Do you wanna know why? It’s because Dream is in prison, and I’m not. Dream! He's had his comeuppance and I’ve not! My comeuppance was apparently not good enough for these people, they are just waiting for the next thing, the next slip up and Ranboo I’m not gonna fucking slip up Ranboo. I’m different.
I’m not Dream, god I wish I was. Sometimes I wish I was. I wish I had that comeuppance. But Ranboo I’m not Dream and I’m not gonna be Dream and that's ahhh. I am living in eternal limbo again. I’ve been through limbo. I'm out of limbo and socially I’m still in limbo and man hearing you say those words that you said to me, do you remember what you said?
R: Yeah… I do?
W: You said “I think people can change” that's number one
R: Mhm
W: And number two you’re “scared if people don’t like you”
R: Yeah
W: I’ve been investing, I’ve been investing into the wrong areas Ranboo. I’ve been investing in the wrong people. Were kindred man, we get each other
R: Yeah, Yeah I’d say so.
W: We have SO much difference, but you know what the one thing we got incommon? Our strongest point? And you mustn't take offense to this, okay?
R:Okay..?
W: Neuroticism. Me and you are just as neurotic as each other. Just as nervous but the thing is it’s not our downfall you know? Anxiety isn't necessarily an evil trait to have. Anxiety is what kept our ancestors alive Ranboo.
R: Yeah
W: You? Me? Your Parents, whoever they may be, my parents, do you know how they’re alive? Because they were anxious. They didn't let another thing kill them, they didn't let another thing take them down. Our ancestors, the cavemen in the woods or the cave enderman, were anxious when they heard the lion roar; they were anxious when the wolf howled. And you know what they did? They went inside and they hid and that's what they did and that's why we are here today. Ranboo me and you are neurotic, and that's why we are alive..right now talking to each other and doing this.
R: Okay…… I really, I really do hope that's um a good thing.
W: Sorry, ha, that's uh that might have come across- I’m really sorry I meant um, I’ll go get you some more red.
R: No no I understand what you mean I think, we both are kind of thinkers I think well yeah, we tend to think about a lot of things. Think about a lot of situations and how people are affected by said situations. How we can make things better and although we may think in different ways the fact we both, I think we both think at the same level just in different ways sometimes.
W: I think you might be a bit braver than me and showing your true colors. I feel like, I feel like with you Ranboo I never have to guess your next move. I never have to guess your hand, you know?
R: Yeah
W: I feel like, I feel like life dealt us the same cards and the difference is you, you build your trust by showing people your cards whilst, I keep them close to my chest and I feel like that may be the difference. But I’m gonna stop psychoanalysing you so
R: heh
W: And let's… let's, Ranboo how’d you feel about thievery?
R: Oh uh ooh, what types? What do you-
W: I’m going to steal Las Nevadas cows to cook our burgers.
R: Oh oh okay?
W: And I’m not going to re-breed them. I am going to simply kill them.
R: Alright I mean, so you are? Are you gonna steal all of them? Or just
W: Nahh just enough so it's annoying ya know?
R: Okay um
W: Unless, how about this if this makes you feel a bit less uncomfortable about it how about if I steal all the cows unless they have a sign on them that says “these cows are property of las Nevadas” then I’ll leave them alone so unless they have an expressed sign that says “do not steal please” I’ll leave them alone. But if not… it seems like a good idea
R: Okay yeah
W: You’re really good a building vans
R: Oh thank you
W: I’m pretty good at building vans too.
R: Okay.
W: Okay I’ve got the steak.
R: Oh, nice
W: Pretty good, is that enough red for you?
R: I just need something to put the red on
W: Oh cool yeah, I can go find you some wool.
R: There could be some chests around. You know I found a full netherite block in one the other day?
W: Wait what?
R: There was just another netherite block in one of the chests, it was very interesting.
W: I’ve just restocked for us.
R: Ohh, nice I’ll put some of our building materials here. Oh wow, wait did you get, did you get all of them?
W: Yeah heh, pretty good yeah?
R: Oh geez.
….. [Talk about Minecraft mechanics]
W: So this is your cookie factory, your cookie shop, your giant fortress
R: Yeah you realize a lot now that it’s a giant fortress. Sometimes, sometimes I don’t realize things until they’re an afterthought.
W: How is Tubbo?
R: He's um, alright. I think he's doing pretty well.
W: What is he up to right now?
R: He's um he's just building around Snowchester you know? Not really doing-
W: Snowchester?
R: Oh you- don't know about snowchester? It’s basically just like this little- it used to have some people but then everyone just kind of went off on their own ways. It’s just like this little arctic area, a village he created.
W: A town?
R: Yeah basically!
W: So, Las Nevadas, Snowchester, - I thought Techno and Phil told me they were successful? Well just Phil I haven't spoken to Techno since, since, it happened.
R: Mhm Well it
W: Phil told me they were successful and there's no more nations and that there’s anarchy here.
R: Well it's not a nation it's literally just- it's literally just him.
W: What about this Kinoko Kingdom I keep reading about?
R: I have no idea. All they put down there was just signs and I havent heard anything about that honestly.
W: So there’s, there’s a lot going on Ranboo. What part do you play? Go on, You can't be THAT neutral, if you’re not a part of Kinoko Kingdom, then you must be a part of something.
R: I mean I guess you could say I’m a part of.. Snowchester a little bit? I think I’m mainly just um with Phil and Techno I’m pretty sure. It’s mainly, it's mainly just them and everything. Because that's pretty much where I’ve been living for awhile and all so.
W: And now the Paradise Burger Van.
R: And now the Burger Van I guess yeah.
W: Good, good! I’m coming back. Do you need more red or?
R: No, we got enough.
W: Then the final step is to name the burger and name the beef!
R: Name, name the beef?
W: Oh so another thing I wanted to do is to legitimize our burgers so it's not just stake right is to make a uh name for all our stakes so when they've had it you know our stake shop that they know this is our stake shop, and only the high grade beef. So we are all gonna name the burgers with an anvil and I wanted, I wanted to give them like versions and wanted to use an alt code so that no one could copy it. So it's like “hey you’ve got a volume one steak, burger steak” so people would come and it's sort of an NFT value to it. A bit of a you know, once you’ve had volume one of burgers then that's gone forever like versions, is this making sense? Are you following?
R: Yeah this is making sense, I’m following I think
W: Cool cool
R: Yeah
W: What do you think of calling the burger shop?
R: Hmm
W: I’m thinking of either Paradise or Wilburger?
R: Well Wilburger is funny
W: Wilburger is funny but it doesn't take into account the work you put in.
R: Hmm maybe paradise burgers might be good
W: What about Wilbooger?
R: Will- Wait a minute but then that means we have booger in it, and then they will make fun of it.
W: Yeah yeah, paradise burger has a meaning behind it. So like, you know paradise next to Las Nevadas. Have a think
R: Paradise…
W: Weeeeeeeeeeee, ding dong we got everything we need. Right, let me go to an anvil and think of a name. This has been good, this has been chill.
R: This has been nice
W: I feel like we are good business partners. I’m excited to show Tommy. What's your opinion on Tommy?
R: Oh he's great. Tommys awesome.
W: Agreed
R: Yeah. Definitely gone through a lot but I definitely think that has made him a good person.
W: Mmm yeah well you seem to think everyone going through something at least gives them some merit you said
R: Well I mean yeah. I mean if- if no one, the only really bad people are the ones who are just evil because, just because then they don't really have any reason why you know? Those are in my opinion the bad people.
W: Right
R: I don’t really think there’s that many bad people like that so yeah.
W: Let me find an alt code, I want to find a cool alt code for the Wilburger, let's go for a sunbeam
R: ooooh
W: This is sexy, what I've done. Here we go here we go The beef! The bread doesn't have to be named
R: yeah
W: It’s gonna be good. Here we go, here we go. Look at this!
R: Oooohhh thats cool
W: No ones copying that
R: Yeah especially the thing in the eye as well.
W: It's a watermark no one, no one can copy it now so we can sell those with one slice of bread on either side and that's our thing. That's our shtick.
R: Yeah I think thats good thats good
W: I think we are getting to the point Ranboo where we are almost done I mean I do have a question to ask you though
R: Yeah of course ask away.
W: Just gonna put the bread back. This is gonna be a make or break
R: Okay.
W: Come with me
R: Yeah
W: This really could be, could be a make or break. And what about the Wilburger Ran Van?
R: Oh thats good thats good
W: Cool cool, then we’ll have your name on as the co creator I won’t be ceo, I will be vice chairman of the wilburger ran-van corporation
R: Cool, awesome.
W: So here’s our completion ranboo you remember the signs?
R: Yeah? They are still there.
W: Yeah it's good innit? Ranboo I want you to smash the windows.
R: Smash the windows? Like how? How do you want me to do it?
W: Take this (gave ranboo a cobblestone block) hold it in your hand
R: Okay
W: Now break the window.
R: okay
W: More
R: Do more? Okay
W: A lot more
R: keep going? Oh uh oh
[Wilbur places down TNT in a corner of the competition restaurant]
R: Are you sure about that one?
W: Come here
R: Oh? Okay
W: You trust me alright?
R: Yeah?
W: Detonate that, its only in the corner to prove we are not fucking around
R: I mean it's just in the corner right and then it will, it will drop all the blocks
W: Yep
R: And then we can put it somewhere
W: We can put it in a chest next to it.
R: Okay.. ohh Careful! [Wilbur stood really close to the TNT so he took damage]
W: It’s alright
R: That was a little bit more than I thought
W: Picking up those blocks
R: Yep, I think we can just put them in the chests here I think.
W: Okay I’ll fill this in, you passed the test, good job man. You can go back to the van, I’ll be back there soon. Ranboo
R: Yeah?
W: I’m proud of you man. You, you’ve taken a side, you’ve proven you can choose a side and I’m proud of you.
R: Thank- Thank, thank you. I haven't-
W: You’ve got something to work for.
R: Yeah, yeah
W: I’ll see you around. I’m gonna head off after I fix this but you get to work on the Ranvan. See you soon.
R: Yeah I’ll get to work, see you soon, buh bye
W: see you soon man.
[Wilbur breaks one of the signs placed down from earlier then goes to the explosion site and writes a sign with the NFT symbol saying Wilbur + Ranboo Did this together and places a chest to put the exploded materials in a chest along with two diamonds]
W: ahh, I love that guy.
The existence of a gas station in Las Nevadas obviously implies there are cars in this universe but Technically, the dsmp only has one functioning car and that is the Ranvan, a van that absolutely definitely cannot go into Las Nevadas. Outstanding work everyone.
Dsmp lore thoughts “The Wilbur Van” 1/26
Ok, it’s been a while now, School is busy and I’ve had a bit of burn out, but I’m finally got time to write my thoughts on the dsmp lore “The Wilbur Van” aka “Hitting on 16″ by Wilbur soot.
Another post of me trying to go over just the important thoughts I have, and not narrating everything they do.
edit: know that I’ve been writing this since it first came out, so everything here is said with me having not now seen the newest Wilbur lore from 3/15/22
If you weren’t aware, this is a written/literature style lore. Written by cc!Wilbur soot with approval from all the other respective content creators involved. It is posted on Ao3, and Wilbur also streamed reading it on his twitch channel.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/36682660
Some people may have said “Why couldn’t they do these streams?” “Why don’t they don’t they just do them now?” “Just make then flashbacks.” Well the answers to those questions is that they were intend to be streams, but the creators were having issues all being free to do the lore together. So time passed and with still no progress and them all being respectively busy, they signed off for it to be written. Yes they could try to pick it up now, or do flashbacks, but that still leaves the issue of them all having time to stream together, and simply they decided this alterative would be fun.
It is something really cool about having the lore in this medium, offering us more descriptive scenes and things that we wouldn't normally be able to have in minecraft. And as Wilbur said, this medium of doing lore, is just as valid as any stream lore, and he commends our amazing writers in this fandom.
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So before the stuff really starts, we are given this
“The following story is an adaptation of the scripts of 4 streams intended for production on the Dream SMP. Due to all 4 scripts being written before Ranboo’s death it is best to take this story as being in it’s own timeline that is respective of the character of Wilbur Soot. The actors have signed off that the actions taken by the characters in this story are accurate and representative. It is up to audience interpretation which timeline is canon to the greater storyline. For all future lore based around Wilbur, this is canon.”
- So first off yes, all this was supposed to take place before the prison break. But they never found time. Also if you didn’t know, the prison break has basically all been planned out since January 2021, and they were just awaiting when to do it. The reason that they ended up doing in November 28th was because cc!Technoblade was about to go into surgery, so they wanted get it done before he possible lost an arm. Because of this it was a sudden plan and some people were not informed of the prison break date, and others could not show. Examples are Eret and Puffy were busy. Wilbur was not aware it was happening.
- Wilbur call this ‘it’s own timeline’ which is confusing. This leads us to ask what it was that made this possibly ‘another timeline’?. Presumable it was c!Ranboo’s death. Now I will go into that more later once we approach that part of the story, but as for myself I am viewing these as the same timelines until something really counter acts that. But if this was planned for a while, there should be no reason for anything to interfere with it being cannon.
- Viewing these as separate timelines puts the audience against each other a bit battling for what is and isn’t cannon, and makes it harder to keep track off. We can only wait and see for how this will be addressed in the future. If there is going to be something that really splits these ‘timelines’ apart.
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Ok now into the actual thoughts on the content.
- For my own perspective, I am viewing this to all take place sometime before “The visit” which is the Quackity event where Techo escaped prison, which then led into Charlie’s death. Due to Quackity’s current characterization in this work, it is best to view it as taking place before Charlie died and Quackity started talking his lessons to heart.
- Once again I must say how cool it is the get the perspective of a stream in this medium. Through writing Wilbur is able to offer us elements such as c!wilbur smoking, there being scorpions, the elegant shift and switch between scenes and intermediate dialogue. This sort of dialogue and intermediate scenes could be found in something like cc!Quackity’s movie streams, but this written medium was the best way for us to get this sorta thing from cc!wilbur.
- The characterization in this work is very well done. Of course all the creators signed off and said this is accurate, but there were a few odd times where I felt c!Tubbo and c!Ranboo were displayed unexpectedly. Well come back to those. Tommy was not all too involved, but for where he was he felt accurate. And I liked how he felt the courage to actually speak his thoughts and feeling to Wil. His doubts.
- The story opens and tells us of Tommy and Wilbur together. They are building a road to the Ranvan, trying to attract customers. This building of the road also tells us what all that stone Wilbur told Tommy to collect was for.
- Now the main point of what Wilbur’s is doing, is he is trying to be competitive, and get Quackity’s attention. He wants to one-up Quackity, and likes that Quackity still treats him human. While others view him as dead, or a terrorist, Quackity views him like a living rival, and Wilbur likes that. He wants more of that, and so continues to bother Quackity. Quackity on his end, also enjoys the competition, and the opportunity to prove he is better than Wilbur, that he is a good president.
- Through out this work Wilbur tells us about things like, his beating heart, making him feel alive, and so he wishes to do more of these things. Sorta like how Tommy did not like being reminded he died, Wilbur also doesn’t seem to enjoy it, but is more focused on doing whatever he can to feel alive now. But as we learn at the end of this work, feeling alive isn’t always positive. Pain can make you feel alive, having to watch tragedy go done, can make you feel alive. The alive feeling of fear and terror, to burn, are not preferable and pleasant feelings. That is Wilbur’s lesson in this story. To not be so carless and mindlessly do things just to get attention and ‘feel alive’. You need to think through your actions and consider the consequences, before things go south, someone gets hurt.
- Next I’d like to address Wilbur’s distaste and insulting feeling of Quackity offering him Vice president.
“ “That’s what you brought me here for?” Wilbur replied shakily, trying to contain his rage, “you deem me a vice president?” “I deem you a qualified leader, yes.” Quackity replied calmly. “Do you understand how insulting your charity attempt is?” “I don’t think it’s insulting. Don’t forget I was once a vice president.” Quackity chuckled. “Yeah, well I couldn’t stoop that low.” Wilbur slammed his fist on the table and stood up. “
So Wilbur considers the role of vice president to be demeaning, and insulting. Is this the case for any role lower than the leader? Or is his distaste simply for the role of the Vice? The second in command. Wilbur will accept ruling part of Quackity’s land, even if not all, but he will not accept the role besides Q as his vice.
This really makes me want to look back to the L’manburg and Pogtopia days. Where Wilbur was constantly berating and yelling at Tommy that he’d never be president, and that he was only fit to be vice. Is this how he viewed Tommy then? When he said these words did he mean them to be ruder than they already were. If President is such an honor, and Vice is the lowest of the low, then what does this mean for Tommy? Before they were exiled Tommy was Wilbur’s vice, Wilbur seemed to trust and respect him, leading me to question did he see the seat being that low before? When did he start seeing ‘Vice’ as such an insulting position, and how does his treatment to Tommy correlate to that.
Sticking to the subject of Tommy, lets examine these lines. Tommy is asking Wilbur why they are stealing Quackity’s horse, how Wilbur knows this is a good plan.
“But how do you know this for sure?” Tommy asked “I just do.” Wilbur answered, a little more sharply than usual. “But you’ve said stuff like this before and it wasn’t true. You’ve got a bit of a track record of lying.” Tommy said “I have never lied to you.” Wilbur spoke firmly. The atmosphere of fun and whimsy quickly drained from the room. “I mean…” Tommy began, “That’s not true. I’ve had so many people lie to me including you.” Wilbur shook his head, “I’ve never lied to you.” “What about the pit? What about the stuff you said about Tubbo betraying us in L’Manberg? what about when you said no-one would hurt Tubbo?” Wilbur lifted his mask “If I truly believed it was the truth, does that make me a liar?” Tommy thought for a moment. “Well, not exactly but-” “That’s the difference between me and Schlatt. That’s the difference between me and Phil. That’s the difference between me and Quackity.” The sparks had stopped flying so it was impossible to make out Wilbur’s facial expressions as he spoke. “I have never lied to you. I have been wrong but never lied to you, Tommy. I won’t lie to you. Do you trust me, Tommy? ‘Cos right now I feel like you don’t trust me.” These words Wilbur spoke, these words that had calmed the strongest men and built entire nations had no effect on Tommy anymore. They just made him a little frightened. Tommy had heard Wilbur speak like this many times but it never got easier. He felt he had done something wrong simply by posing his point of view and he felt like the antagonist when all he wanted was an answer. “I trust you Wilbur.” He said quietly.
Now I also really like this writing because it lays out characters thoughts and feelings a little easier and clearer for us. Look guys, cc!Wilbur has called his character a villain, and how he choses to express and present his character is more proof. Wilbur is manipulative and gaslightly to Tommy, there is no denying it. He isn’t as bad as some people present him as, he does care for Tommy, but it’s not entirely healthy. (c!Dream says in one of the Sam prison streams how he brought Wilbur back for the reason of him being an issue for Tommy.) Despite their past, Tommy does care for Wil, as he told Foolish, you need to give the person the chance, and not give up on them. So despite how Wilbur may treat him, Tommy is not going to give up or let go, and he is going to try to trust him, no matter how much he doesn't want to.
Wilbur says he has never lied to Tommy. If we are to believe this then lets think about all the crazy rambling he had in Pogtopia, how he constantly belittled Tommy, him saying Tommy would never be president. So ok that wasn’t an assumption or idea on his part, he believed to a truth that Tommy was not cut out to be president.
We also see evidence of Wilbur’s persuasion with Ranboo. (I like how he calls him Ranbus, endearing, but what if it’s another trap?) Ranboo does not want to steal Quackity’s horse, but Wilbur continues to tell him it’s for the greater good until Ranboo caves.
Ranboo had his reservations and debated declining Wilbur’s offer but Wilbur persisted by playing on the concept of the greater good. For how else would they topple the obelisk of tyranny if they didn’t start at the foundations? After all, it was a tame heist all things considered and Ranboo would do well for his job prospects to accept. In this hollow fact Ranboo found himself an accomplice once more.
So Wilbur and Ranboo carry out the heist and kidnapping. Tubbo does encounter them though and ask what they are doing.
“Big Q told me to take care of that horse.” Tubbo replied, “I’ve been feeding him every day.” “Well, he’s in safe hands.” Ranboo lied. “We’re gonna hold him ransom but you know Wilbur would never hurt it. He’s too soft.” “No he’s not.” Tubbo blurted, a tremble in his voice. “Bring the horse back. Now.” “No, Tubbo.” Ranboo said, trying to be firm. Tubbo, unperturbed by Ranboo’s stature over him, dropped his cleaning rag. “You’re gonna end up hurting him. Even if you don’t intend to, you will. Wilbur always hurts innocent things and it’s not fair. The horse did nothing wrong.” Ranboo didn’t respond. He just stood there, slightly hunched staring down at the boy. “Ranboo, make him bring the horse back.” Tubbo begged quietly, his voice sounding trembly, diminished and tired. “No, Tubbo.” “I’m gonna have to tell Big Q” “Don’t tell Big Q. Tubbo, It’s for the greater good.” Tubbo felt his rage build up inside him, “Nothing Wilbur does is for the greater good! He takes and he takes and everything is his own little mission of revenge. Can’t you see? He’s made you think you and him are alike but you’re not. Ranboo, you’re better than this I-” Ranboo felt the fuse inside him finally reach it’s payload. “Tubbo!” he snapped “For God’s sake, just give him a chance! I know that I haven’t always made the best decisions with who I trust but this time I swear to you that things may not always be as bad as you think! I mean, People change, people get better and if you never give them a chance to prove it you’ll be stuck hating everyone that has ever wronged you and you won’t have anyone left...” A silence fell over the two. Tubbo’s eyes began to wet and he quickly turned around and walked away. Down the hill Wilbur cheered and lit up another cigarette “Atta boy, Ranbus!” he gloated. Ranboo felt sick.
Now what surprised me about this was really just Ranboo saying no to Tubbo. He snapped at Tubbo, that was unexpected. He felt guilty afterwards, but the act of saying no really surprised me, and made me question if this felt believable to what we know about c!Ranboo. Overall it works, it makes me think that maybe after their last conversation about the cookie-outpost, Ranboo is still upset and holding some resentment. (Happy to know that wasn’t the last Beeduo conversation before Ranboo’s death) His outburst is also towards himself, his fear that once again he is choosing to trust the wrong person. He wants to give Wilbur the chance but is afraid for how it will backfire.
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The next thing I want to bring up is sorta/mostly my interpretation: The tension in beeduo and having not yet made up about the cookie outpost. It is of my opinion and my interpretation that after Ranboo left Tubbo at the end of the one stream to ‘get rid of the bad bread’ Beeduo did not bring back up the argument or how Tubbo said Quackity was giving him the chance he needed to finally be happy. I believe Ranboo would keep his thoughts and feelings to himself so as to not upset and make things worse with Tubbo. I don’t think he would or has talked to tubbo about it by this point. They just returned to their conversations and hanging out like nothing happened. Then there’s Ranboo taking Wilbur’s side when one of the reasons Tubbo is here in Las Nevadas was to try to over watch and spite wilbur. How now that Ranboo has taken and trusted wilbur, tubbo wants to prove it to Ranboo too.
Next some more with characterization:
- I saw several people discussing if they thought this lore was in character with c!Tubbo or not. Many people saying this felt more like early tubbo than our current Tubbo, he feels more childish. I feel the main reason for this being the playful voice cc!Wilbur put on when reading the story, and how lots of Tubbo’s scenes are either sweet with Ranboo or like the tnt scene where he needed saving.
That scene in of it’s self needs discussing. Because me and many others agree that c!Tubbo to be very smart, he knows redstone, he’s made nukes, he knows tnt, so he should have known and understood the trap based on how it is described. The tnt is not hidden, it is out in the open so Quackity would see it. I have seen seveal theories or ideas for why Tubbo acted the way he did in the tnt trap. First, some people think he really did just not bother to look around and just rushed in to retrive the horse without thinking, then getting stuck. Some people say he went in wanting to do what Ranboo ended up doing, but then got scared/overwhelmed, stuck in a flashback (which could also explain his behavior in either of the other senecios). Some people bring out the fact that we know c!Tubbo may have some not great thoughts about dying and wanting to be free of the troubles, so went down there not caring if he lived or died, just wanting to stop Wilbur. While other people say he went down there to die and then changed his mind.
This also has Tubbo crying early in the story, when the Tubbo we know is very much denial don’t show your feelings, keep it inside to yourself, emotions can be weakness. My main thought was that maybe Tubbo just didn’t expect this sort of thing from Ranboo (stealing the horse, working with Wilbur over him, saying no) one of the few he can trust.
- I haven’t had a whole lot to say about Quackity in this post, shocker right? But the last thing I’ll add about him is that yes c!Quackity is friends with and respects c!Tubbo, but he hired and made tubbuger to spite and egg-on wilbur. This was all about the rivalry to them, and thankfully they were snapped out of it.
- Now onto some Ranboo characterization, insights, and points. c!Ranboo is very self-sacrificing. He put’s other before himself. This may be because he feels guilt for the things he’s done though. In both instances where he’s died, he did so for his family. In this one he was taking responsibility for his actions, but also saving Tubbo. Ranboo chose to trust Wilbur and do this, asked Tubbo to trust him, so he’ll take responsibility. While taking responsibility he will get it in Wilbur and Quackity’s skulls how frivolous their spat is. Giving his life to prove a point. This is return of “wilbur felt alive” line, where Wilbur ‘felt alive’ but it’s not a good alive, it’s scared and sad, watching a friend die, and knowing it’s your fault.
Searing flames and a violent burst of air was all that was left. For a change, the world really did end.
Wilbur felt alive.
Onto that though, there was obviously a better way to defuse the bomb, but Ranboo chose to do it this way, to let the tnt go off. How about the chorus fruit teleport, is that cannon yet? I’m sure they could have found a rock, or actually defused it, so why? Was he thinking he might not die?
Is this his second death. “For once the world did end” feels like a thing you’d say in a death. This where we encounter out issue. cc!Ranboo told us November 28th 2021 that his character has had 1 life all the way since January 2021, that presumably the prison death was planned that long, the only change being the added variable of Michael being the reason of death and being taken. so what are we to believe? Even if this was considered the possible way for his character to die, why not editing this writing a little to just not have him die? Why not just injure him, was it to add the extra guilt for Wilbur’s character, being responsible for Ranboo’s death? was it that important to the story? Or could wilbur be making his cannon about the non cannon deaths, and that they characters do in fact die without taking a cannon death, like cc!phil had told us it was, and so Ranboo yes died but it wasn’t cannon? This is what is creating our issue with ‘timelines’ so why not just make it so it’s not an issue and change the writing? It must be for Wilbur’s character.
Until further explained I am going to assume this is Ranboo’s second cannon death and that he doesn’t remember the first.
I really liked the detail of how Ranboo made eye contact with Tubbo when Tubbo was exiting the tnt room. Very sweet.
Without hesitation Tubbo scrambled towards the ladder connecting the cavern to the viewing platform and climbed it. He turned back to look at Ranboo who smiled at him with the kind eyes he remembered. Tubbo smiled back.
And those are my main things I wanted to talk about from this novel instalment of lore :D Hope you enjoyed and once again sorry it took so long.
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Question for you guys, do you want me to cover Geroge’s long crazy Dream destroying the sever lore from January? Or should I just focuse on the current stuff happening and maybe come back to that?
Me? Doing fanart of recent lore? More likely than you think
oh my god.
That’s what I’ve been missing. That was so-
That’s exactly what I want from lore. Perfect. So perfect. The character growth, the discussions of motives the subtle hints of what’s to come? I love every time we get to see more of Wilbur’s character. The way he just stopped after Ranboo said he did think he was a bad guy? Bye I was done for. My streamers out here giving us immaculate lore. That was so special to me. It’s so simple and yet so good. It’s natural, it feels authentic and it’s just. Great. I’m so excited to see them working together now. Also very interested to see how Tommy’s character will react to this. I think this could cause some conflict between him and Ranboo. But I’m so excited to see Wilbur and Ranboo working together, they’re so similar and yet so different. I’m HYPED for the lore to come if you didn’t watch Wilburs lore stream today PLEASE go so it it’s so good.
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