#show timeline

[aroace-get-out-of-my-face]

Headshots through the years!

I had genuine cuteness aggression when I was drawing the baby Stans

And closeups! (And the same ages together)

[chococrepes-art]

About Bfdie, guys, it's not an alternate timeline or whatever, it's a show that the Announcer Speaker Box was secretly hosting on the side while hosting Bfdi as well, it literally says so in the first 5 seconds.

Idk why people are crying about the timeline man, IT'S IN THE FIRST FIVE SECONDS.

Plus if anything Bfdie in a way kind of fixes the timeline, since there were lots of hiatuses back when Bfdi came out, plus it kind of explains why there were budget cuts in the lore, even if that was more of a running gag but y'know, now there's actually a real explanation for it. Of course there'd be budget cuts if he was hosting two shows at once and paying for equipment and such.

So bfdie IS doing something! it's tidying up the timeline a little, but it's not breaking it and it's not proof that One or Pencil have broken the timeline too much, Bfdie, at least it's existence and the first episode, has nothing to do with that.

[eve6rangers]

What do you guys think the timeline of Ninja Storm is? Like, each episode is a week? Or which episodes do you think it varies in?

[cbrownjc]

I think something people have to remember is Lestat in the show was 150 years old when he came to America for the first time. 150 years old. That’s only about 30 years younger than he was at the start of The Vampire Lestat book. (And at this point in the show, he’s over 160 years old now.)

Lestat, in the Interview with the Vampire book, was still pretty much a fledgling himself when he came to America (turned in 1781, and came to America in 1791 - 10 years apart). And he was still very impetuous about everything he did. 

In the show, because of the age up, he’s less impetuous but way more outside humanity now as well. Like he was after Queen of the Damned. 

You can see that change in how both chose Louis as their companion. In the book, Lestat attacked Louis and drained him to the point of death first before having spoken even one word to him. Louis becoming a vampire in the book was pretty much a fait accompli after that - either become a vampire, or he would die. And the whole thing took 3 nights.

In the show, he basically courted (or hunted as Louis put it) him first, and it was only when he got ghosted that he went full vampire psycho-mode in front of Louis. And all that took at least a month, if not a bit longer. 

Guess I’m trying to say that amc Lestat is way more outside of humanity at this point in the story than the book Lestat was, simply because of their ages in each telling of the story. But with the same damn issues book-Lestat had at this point in the story still. 

He’s also clearly kept a safe bubble around himself, Louis, and Claudia in New Orleans. Because, well, he’s old enough to have the power to do that here, a power Rice’s older vampires have the ability to do, to keep other vampires away from their territory. There clearly are other vampires in the US now, though not too many. In contrast, there really were none back in 1791 for Lestat to really worry about.

If you’ve read the book, then you know Europe - or at least Paris - was a bad idea to go to. With the way the timeline has changed, being made older as it were, why do I now feel that it’ll probably be worse than that? Because I do. 

[nalyra-dreaming]

im sweating no one has asked it yet. i have been sitting on an ask for a while that suddenly seems a lot more plausible and therefore worthy of asking. I also have a couple of things that caught my attention.

1785 refering to nicolas and lestat joining the theatre makes a lot of sense. I mean what else can go there? Nothing. Non of the characters (in the show) have anything important happen around that time. Plus it makes sense for lestat to rise through the ranks of the theatre over the course of years instead of several months.

!!!if nicki is there he needs to be cast which means we also meet him way before we thought we would. !! Also that might mean that the other unexpected character from the vc is Nicki!

This also means that the books are a lot more condensed than we originally thought. And if the joining of the theatre is in s2 what from tvl will they add as well and what will they leave for a comprehensive tvl 3rd season? Tho i have to say that it would make sense to put tvl partially in another season because i just cant see how you can properly adapt that book to only 8 40min episodes, there is just too much happening.

Uhhm more chaotic thoughts......

Oh yes! That ask i had been sitting on.

2. so about a week or so ago i was doing some writing and suddenly i had this thought. You know how we have been speculating that dubai is in the merric era and that lestat maybe in a coma in another room? And how we will find this out at the end, which then leads us into s3? Like they show us unconcious lestat and fade out? Yeah what if they open with it tho. What if the first episode starts on a shot of Lestat, in dubai, unconcious. Actually this makes no sense cause that would ruin louis further narrative before daniel has even gotten his hands on it. And like it would have been sort of hinted in the synposis right with "with the apperance of an unexpected factor" or something vague like that? The reason im telling you this anyway is because; how can there be flashbacks from lestat if he, or some representation of him isnt there? Did he write diaries too? We know there was a paragraph of the wolfkiller in one of the claudia diaries. I think someone had discovered that in a frame back in november or something. I dont quite remember and i couldnt find it upon rewatching, but maybe i should pay closer attention.

3. I also realised we know quite some things about lestats timeline already. I dont know if anyone has mentioned this already. So i had been rewatching episode three, the bit where lestat offers the tickets to 'donazettis comic masterpiece' the opera i dont remeber the name of. He describes having met donazetti and having seen the premier 73 years ago in Salle Ventadour. Salle Ventadour is in Paris, 1917-73= 1844 which means he was a vampire and hasnt left paris yet. Is this takingplace in lestats era before turning nicky where he is going to all these society events as gentleman death and meets armand? No obviously not, that would make nicky 60ish by the time he is turned. So its after, its probably in that time just before he decides to go seek marius. The time in which nicky, post vamp transformation grows to resent and distance himself from lestat even more. What if lestat tries to distract himself from his nicki who is getting more and more antagonistic as the years, in this case , go by, by going to operas and stuff? It would make sense for lastat to hold hope for a long time, to endure for a long time (you saw how fast time started passing in season 1 as soon as the vampirism hit) It would also make sense for lestat to take decades to find marius. So timeline!!

1760= lestat born >(lestat gets the green pendent form the marquise)> 1884ish 24 yo= nicky and lestat run away to paris (maybe the wolfkiller happens in the same year) >> 1785 25yo=nicky and lestat join the theatre >> 1794 (middle of the french revolution, girls(gn) what a time to be turned into a vampire)= lestat is kidnaped and turned into a vamprire, im not actually sure they are going to show that in too much detail as they have already talked about it. > i think gabrielle gets turned before the FRev ends and nicky between 1800 and 1810, that would make 1 century before Louis > 1844= lestat sees the premier of DON PASQUALE DONIZETTIS COMIC MASTERPIECE, i remember! Nicki is turned, but lestat is not out of paris so nicki is not dead yet.> between 1844 and 1909/10 there is a fallout with nicki, lestat leaves paris, looks for marius, nicki dies, marius is found, those who mist be kept, lestat goes to america in very old clothes that he doesnt bother to change until louis tells him to. (If not for his father why does lestat go to america here?)>>1910=lestat arrives in new orleans.

That was all i have for today, damn, i hope that made some sense:) And I hope you have a nice day!!

Yes!! You made sense, I just answered an ask also theorizing in regards to the changed structure (but I didn't combine them because would have been too long^^ and also:)

1785 also marks the point in time where Armand would have needed to vacate Les Innocents with his coven, since the bones were relocated to the catacombs in 1786. That must have been quite the change for him - no matter how it happens, and it changes some of the story of The Vampire Lestat already!

The "mistake" (what they called it but while that may be true I don't know if I should believe them^^) of the diary entry being part of Lestat's story is in episode 4, where Daniel thumbs through one of the diaries. It could be used to give us a part of Lestat's story, yes, but... you know, I bet we will see Lestat in a coma towards the end of the season, and I could easily see it beeing Armand who is taking Daniel there to show him - and Louis might use that moment to try to kill himself. (I would love that. Can you imagine Armand being with Lestat down there and slowly realizing what's happening, and then Lestat's eyes opening?????? PLEASE^^)

Yes, I also was thinking about that the other day, but you are totally correct, and I haven't seen much about this either. >> As you correctly point out the remark to the premier is particularly interesting. The date of said premier was January 3rd 1843. It has already been theorized that Lestat's turning was likely during the Reign of Terror, as he himself said he was turned in 1794. For him to be staying in Paris for such a long time after the turning... that is quite the change. (If we take it as him staying, rather than him returning at some point, which is also possible I suppose) the ties must have been very strong. What if... what if Nicolas actually was successful, too, and then couldn't be anymore since he became a vampire, too. And yes, Nicolas must've been turned (just) prior to 1810 (if we take the 100 years literally) and after Gabrielle, but that still makes a few years in which he would have mourned Lestat?! Which makes me also think the relationship between them will actually be portrayed as even deeper. What if there is an echo to what is happening to Louis later... what if there is more to Nicolas' depression than we thought? And also... I think for me it all depends a bit on where Armand was during that time. What if Armand went back to Rome for a bit? The Roman coven is gone after all when Lestat gets there, only some vagabonds around... What if Armand went there when Les Innocents was closed, realized that Santino had abandoned his teachings and it all crumbled there before he returned? But yes, I also think that Lestat's travels likely took place between 1844 and 1910 - and I also think that they kept Marius and TwmbK more or less unchanged (at least for now).

I personally cannot wait to see where they take these changes... there is so much already in there, so much set up. I've said it before, they not only have done their homework but they are also fearlessly rearranging, and I love it. AND they must have a bigger plan already worked out, because there’s just... too much details already. Too many little things. Choices.

I love it.

[ghostlymun]

[fuckyeahgoodomens]

I think I remember hearing that the series was revealed to have taken place in 2018 in a deleted scene. May you be able to confirm this?

Hiya :), not sure about deleted scene, but the series does indeed take place in 2018 :) - we know it from the script book, because the Antichrist is born 2007:

And the Armageddon’t takes place after his 11th birthday => 2018 :). 

[cbrownjc]

Theory: The show’s timeline is around the time of Merrick

Side note: when talking about the timeline, I’m not saying every single thing that happened in the books prior have all already happened. For example, I don’t think Akasha has risen yet. I really think that whole thing is going to tie into the “great conversion” thing Louis told Daniel about (with Akasha rising in response to it.)  

The full timeline of the show is a patchwork jumble anyway, because it kinda has to be. Daniel not getting to publish the first interview was basically a butterfly effect moment in time. (Just like Lestat waiting 150 years before coming to America was one as well.) So not every single event that happened post-Interview happened. 

But Rashid - if he is to be believed - saying Louis is trying to off himself by giving Daniel this interview to publish in a book had me thinking: despite how depressed and detached Louis was for all those years - in both the books and the show - he never tried to end himself. 

Except once. And that was in the book Merrick. 

I won’t go into why he tried to do it. All I’ll say is, he came damn close to succeeding when he attempted it. The issue was, he was actually too old and had powerful enough blood in him that the suns rays couldn’t 100% reduce him completely to ash-dust anymore. 

Lestat woke up from his years-long, post-Memnoch coma when Louis was reduced to this state, and helped to save him. 

In the show, we’ve seen that the sun can harm Louis in the present time of 2022. But maybe, as in the book Merrick, it can’t fully kill him anymore. I don’t know if he knows that or not, but maybe he suspects it? It’s possible. So the book, aside from being a warning to humanity, is a way to draw other vampires to him and have the hostile ones be the ones to end him instead.

Another thing. Claudia’s diary played a major role in the storyline of the book Merrick. (She only had one diary in the books.) I don’t think Louis was BSing when he told Daniel that many of the diaries got lost and scattered over the years. In the books, a group called the Talamasca have Claudia’s diary and its stolen from them, which is how Louis gets a hold of it. I think the same could be true here. I think we’re set to meet/learn about the Talamasca in the upcoming Mayfair Witches tv series. And speaking of the Mayfairs . . .

Merrick herself is a Mayfair. They could use that as a way to do a small crossover when that series premieres in January, if they wanted.

I was already pretty sure the 2022 setting of the show was post-Queen of the Damned, with the exception of Akasha having not risen yet. I think Claudia’s diaries and Rashid saying Louis is trying to die narrows it down even more IMO.