Fairy Tale NEW CRIMINALS! Gretel and Big Jack Horner!
Gretel : “They took my armor...”
B.Jack : “Smile for the camera. This will be be on the front page!”
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Fairy Tale NEW CRIMINALS! Gretel and Big Jack Horner!
Gretel : “They took my armor...”
B.Jack : “Smile for the camera. This will be be on the front page!”
*me walking into my housemates room wanting attention* Bro just wanting some peace and quiet:
Can’t decide which I want more - an Artie spinoff that’s a parody of The Holy Grail, or the Fairy Godmother’s backstory.
Hot take for today
Lord farquad isn’t as bad as the films forced perspective makes him out to be
Let’s discuss
The first thing that happens by the order of lord farquad is the relocation of fairy tale creatures. The fairy tale creatures are likely living rent free on land that is legally owned by lord farquad and before forcibly relocating the fairy tale folk he “signed an eviction notice” (as stated by one of the three pigs) meaning he had to have given them time to relocate to somewhere outside of the land that legally belongs to him. The fairy tale creatures likely ignored this notice and were then forcibly removed.
This next point isn’t about farquad directly but more about the human characters (aside from Fiona) in general in which farquad is included,
The treatment of ogres
Shrek makes it out to seem like ogres are heavily misunderstood creatures that no one takes the time to understand before casting their judgement but there are a couple things that happen before that which justifies the way the towns people feel about ogres, namely eating humans and taking pleasure in scaring the shit out of them if they ever were to approach. Eating humans is not a stereotype that the people have cast on to shrek either in fact he’s confirmed himself that he’s done it “now ogres, they’re much worse, they’ll make a suit from your freshly peeled skin, they’ll shave your liver, squeeze the jelly from your eyes...” he pauses “actually it’s quite good on toast” this isn’t just shrek playing on ogre stereotypes either as later we see him enjoy a martini that has an eyeball in it. Going back to the taking pleasure in scaring the shit out of townspeople and essentially psychologically torturing them, we see him laugh after he says “this is the part where you run away” and we know this is isn’t just shrek taking joy out of chasing people off his land as in shrek 4 when he gets his wish we see him actively go into a village that is clearly not his land and start fucking shit up for the people that live there and he takes joy in that because to him it’s something that just “makes sense”
Now back to discussing farquad,
We know that lord farquad takes good care of the people who live in duloc, they are by no means oppressed as there isn’t any evidence of farquad oppressing them other than telling his knights that “some of them may die but that’s a risk he’s willing to take” I’d argue that this isn’t necessarily oppression within the context of the time and setting the film takes place in as the knights had to have signed on for their position and therefore had to know what they were getting themselves into. My evidence that their signing on must have had to be by choice is that in later films we see jobs are plentiful and even in kingdom settings the people seem to have a choice in what they do for work. The people within duloc do not seem to be impoverished in fact the kingdom itself is a tourist attraction meaning they’re also welcome to visitors and anyone can come and go to duloc and he even makes sure that everyone is clean and healthy especially during a time where there weren’t a lot of tools available to people to hygienically take care of themselves.
We also know that farquad is open and honest about his intentions and keeps his end of the deal, he gives shrek back his swamp back without the fairy tale creatures there and we know the fairy tale creatures are unharmed because they happily come and visit shrek and don’t show any signs of being upset about being relocated again.
The marriage between Fiona and lord farquad
There was no ill intent on farquad making Fiona his bride although his initial and arguably main intent on doing so was to legitimize his “kingdom” and properly go through the channels so that his people could have a king and a queen. Fiona doesn’t seem to have any reservations about this initially either when shrek explains the situation to her and there are only reservations about it afterward when shrek and Fiona develop feelings for each other
Picture this: you’re the ruler of a land and the people are happy with you as their ruler, you take good care of them and ultimately everything is going well, an ogre shows up who is legitimately a monster known for eating your people and taking joy out of making them miserable and you see this as an opportunity to not expend the knights who you were risking losing, he brings you your bride, you clear out his land as promised and then he shows up at your wedding to steal the woman you have grown to fall for despite your initial intentions (you even sped up when the wedding was to happen and made things work the way your bride wanted it to work) and then out of nowhere that ogre comes back to try and take her back and then SHE turns into an ogre, something you weren’t aware of, now there are two ogres IN YOUR CHURCH where a ton of your people are now potentially in a lot of danger and not only that but now you’re losing your title as king because you’re loosing the princess and you’re risking being a failure to your people when you prided yourself on perfection.
Even more evidence, farquad says to gingy “I’ve tried to be fair to you creatures” (which he has) “but now my patience has reached its end” which makes sense because they continue to defy him despite him being generous and fair to them. Even in this scene he does threaten to torture the ginger bread man to get information but doesn’t go through with it and has never actually physically harmed these creatures he’s been fair to.
In conclusion Shrek takes on a forced perspective from the ogres point of view which is why we see farquad as evil but if you objectively look at what’s happening we see farquad is actually a fair and just ruler who wants the best for his kingdom and had it ruined and stolen from him by and ogre and then was murdered by a dragon
Thanks for coming to my red talk
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Gretel Süß (Hänsel and Gretel)
Witch Hunter (For Hire) - Ex-Child Celebrity
(My adult version based from the original. Kid got old and bold :D)
Okay so
In shrek 4 we see that fionas parents were about to sign away their kingdom to rumplestiltskin in exchange for fionas curse being lifted before news came that she had been rescued. In the world where shrek was never born, she is never saved and eventually escapes herself
But in shrek 2, prince charming was meant to be the one to rescue her, as repayment for fairy godmother turning the king from a frog into a human. Charming arrives too late while shrek and fiona are on their honeymoon
I could easily believe in the world where shrek was never born that charming did try to rescue fiona and died, but if he was meant to rescue her in the first place, why are fionas parents desprate enough to make a deal with rumplestiltskin before he's even failed? Like in both the good and the bad universe, whether shrek exists or not, theyre ready to make the deal before charming finishes his quest
For that matter, if charming was meant to reacue fiona all along, how/why is she on the magic mirrors list of rescuable princesses in the first place? Like why would anyone need to know where she was locked away at other than charming?
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according to the shrek lore, the shimadas have a sister