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Fruits Basket Personality Types Part 3: Tohru Honda

Okay, I'm super excited to get into each character's personality type! Rather than stating what Enneagram and MBTI type I think they are out front, and then working to provide evidence, I want to start from scratch. What this means is that in figuring out their Enneagram, I'll list things like their childhood wound or core desire as presented in the manga/anime without worrying about making it match any of the types as laid out in my first personality types post, and for the MBTI, I'll try and figure out their orientations, processes, and type dynamics independent of each other first, and then look at whether my assessment of those elements is cohesive for them.

We'll also go slightly deeper into each character's most likely type (in both systems), looking at things like their Enneagram subtype and wings, and the description and nickname of their MBTI.

Tohru Honda's Enneagram

Wound: Tohru lost her father at a young age, and then almost lost her mother, too. She was left alone for a long period at an age where she couldn't yet take care of herself, and had to grow up much too early. She adopted her father's mannerisms (poorly) out of fear that she'd lose her mother if she didn't find some way to keep him alive. She had trouble making friends, too, so I'd say loneliness plays a big part in her wound.

Wounding message: You must take on your father's traits, or you'll lose your mother, too.

Core desire: This is tricky, since Tohru struggles to articulate her desires, but I think she truly desires to be surrounded by people she loves, and to help them as much as she can.

Core fear: Tohru's greatest fear is losing the people she loves.

Defense mechanism: Tohru's defense mechanism is to repress her authentic self- her needs, her desires, even her personality- to avoid pushing people away.

Strengths: Tohru has a wonderful gift for understanding people, and provides a non-judgmental, supportive listening ear. She's endlessly giving and a reliable friend.

Challenges: Tohru goes along with what others want and doesn't ask for help to a problematic degree. She's spacey and takes forever to make important decisions, often because she struggles to look inward.

When healthy: When Tohru is most in-tune with herself (like we see at the end of the story), she's more stubborn and outspoken, but still with all the warmth and compassion that makes her so wonderful.

When unhealthy: Tohru represses herself and fails to acknowledge her difficult emotions, becoming even more of a pushover.

Looking at all of this, here's what connects when I go back to the Enneagram post:

Wound: could be 2, 4, or 9

Wounding message: could be 2, 3, or 9

Core desire: could be 2, 3, 8, or 9

Core fear: very strongly 9, though with elements of 2 and 3

Defense mechanism: again very strongly 9, though 2 is close as well

Strengths: 2 or 9, with elements of 5

Challenges: very strongly 9

When healthy: 2, 5, or 9

When unhealthy: 3 and 9

I initially thought Tohru was a 2, because she is endlessly giving and puts other's needs before her own. However, Twos become needy, demanding, and possessive when stressed, and Tohru is much the opposite, withdrawing and becoming more complacent and indecisive when stressed. This is why I see Tohru as an Enneagram 9.

Nines will often numb out with distractions, like video games, etc... At first, I had trouble seeing this for Tohru, but then I read that Nines can also use hard work as a means of avoiding their difficult emotions, which describes Tohru perfectly.

In the header graphic of my Enneagram post, that diagram separates the types into triads centered around the head, the heart, and the body (which I refer to as the gut). Types 2-4 are heart types, and their controlling emotion is sadness or shame. Types 5-7 are head types, and their controlling emotion is fear. And types 8, 9, and 1 are gut types, and their controlling emotion is anger.

In each triad, one type will overexpress their controlling emotion, one will underexpress it, and one will repress it. Nines underexpress anger, which absolutely fits Tohru. Additionally, conflict feels more intense for Tohru than for most, which is a key part of Nines.

Wing

Nines tend to have some things in common with either Eights or Ones, called their "Wing." Eight only appeared once in my connections, and One didn't appear at all. (This is probably why I didn't understand her character very well at first! As a One with a Two wing, I really didn't connect with Nine.)

The Enneagram Institute refers to 9w8s as "The Referee," and 9w1s as "The Dreamer." Tohru seems like more of a Dreamer than a referee to me.

Truity describes the two wings like this:

9w8: The Nine wing Eight type is a Nine who shares many of the Type Eight characteristics. This type is independent, social, adaptable, and generally more assertive and direct than other Nines. 9w1: The Nine wing One type is a Nine who has many of the same features as the Type One personality. This type is hardworking, friendly, modest, and generally more serious and diligent than other Nines.

Yeah, I think 9w1 fits Tohru best!

Subtype

Additionally, people will have a Subtype, either Self-Preservation (SP), Sexual (SE), or Social (SO). This refers to the survival instinct that the person prioritizes, whether physical needs (SP), community membership (SO), or intimate, 1:1 connection (SE - this does not always refer to actual sexual connection).

Tohru has a strong focus on her "most important person." At first, that's her mother, and then it becomes Kyo. For this reason, I think she's a SE 9w1. (And Enneagram Explained says that SE Nines can often look like Twos!)

Tritype

There's also something called a Tritype, which identifies the strongest Type in each center for a person. I think it's pretty clear that Tohru's Tritype would include both 9 and 2, but her Head type is a little harder to figure, but ultimately, I think the 2-6-9 Tritype (The Good Samaritan) is the best fit, as described on Katherine Fauvre's website:

If you are a 269, you are caring, inquisitive and accepting. You want to be helpful, supportive, and peaceful. You like people and want to find ways to engage with them. Your sense of pride comes from getting along with others and being of assistance. You are known for your kindness, easygoing, and friendly disposition. You will push for what you think is needed but may struggle with being seen as passive or quietly passive-aggressive.

Tohru Honda's MBTI

E vs. I: This is tough, because I see elements of both E and I, but I think Tohru generally prefers to focus her attention outwardly, and thus is more likely to be an E.

S vs. N: Again, I don't feel terribly confident here, but I'd lean toward N. She makes some pretty big leaps in connecting ideas throughout the series.

T vs. F: Tohru is quite clearly an F, making decisions based on her values rather than her logic, and focusing on how her decisions affect other people.

J vs. P: Tohru is also quite clearly a P, taking a lot of time to gather information before coming to a decision.

Type Dynamics: Without working out what an ENFP's type dynamics are (since that's my most likely guess for Tohru), I see Tohru's Type Dynamics as Fi Ne Si Te.

Fi: Tohru is highly empathetic and tends to keep her feelings to herself, expressing her values instead through her actions.

Ne: Tohru tends to brainstorm aloud quite often (sometimes as a way of avoiding her feelings).

Si: Tohru has a strong recall of specific details from past situations, which she uses to inform the present.

Te: this is harder for me to see in Tohru, but I think the way she went about trying to break the curse might be an example of her Extroverted Thinking Inferior Process, as she showed concern for outside rules and laws, and worked toward her goal in a relatively systematic way.

This... actually fits INFP, which would probably be my second guess for Tohru. She does have a rich inner world that she rarely shows to others. ENFP would be Ne Fi Te Si - close, but in a slightly different order of importance and development.

Now, let's check the descriptions for ENFP and INFP:

ENFP: Warmly enthusiastic and imaginative. See life as full of possibilities. Make connections between events and information very quickly, and confidently proceed based on the patterns they see. Want a lot of affirmation from others, and readily give appreciation and support. Spontaneous and flexible, often rely on their ability to improvise and their verbal fluency. INFP: Idealistic, loyal to their values and to people who are important to them. Want to live a life that is congruent with their values. Curious, quick to see possibilities, can be catalysts for implementing ideas. Seek to understand people and to help them fulfill their potential. Adaptable, flexible, and accepting unless a value is threatened.

To me, INFP is a slightly better fit. INFPs are also sometimes called "The Mediator," or "The Healer," which suits Tohru quite well!

So, to summarize:

Enneagram: SE 9w1 (The Peacemaker/The Dreamer)

Tritype: 2-6-9 (The Good Samaritan)

MBTI: INFP (The Mediator/The Healer)

What do you think? Did I get it right or wrong? I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Next up: Akito!

What do you think about subtype theory?

Boo!! Tomato! Tomato!

I think its an oversimplified version of the instinctual variants. Its alright if you're just getting into it and check it out because its an introduction to the instincts, but other than that its pretty bad in my opinion.

There's so many sx subtype descriptions that just describe sx-overfocus (when an sx-blind-> spso/sosp, gets unhealthy and becomes obsessed with their blindspot) instead of actual sx. Naranjo is very obviously sx-blind and his own delusion around being sx-dom led him to making descriptions that essentially mistype everyone.

That's a matter of perspective though. You can be sx5 in naranjo and an spso5 in instinctual variants simply because of the way its presented. I don't conflate the 2 usually, but in theory and application subtype is inferior and simplified to me.

#i think I would still be sx6 in subtype but uuuu. the description sucks. its so weird.#naranjo obviously had favorites😭#the sx6 description is just..I don't know where to begin #honestly I should sit down and criticize naranjo paragraph for paragraph that would b funny #mine #asks #naranjo #enneagram types #enneagram #instinctual variants #subtype

Hi Charity! I wanted to ask for help with determine if I am sx-blind or if I could sx in my stack without any desire for a romantic and sexual relationship?

In a group of people, I usually "pick" a person that I want to get close with, I want to have a very deep emotional connection with them. I am kind of guilty that when it "clicks" with the person I chose, I want them to regard me as their closest friend and favorite person. But there are no romantic or sexual undertones to it, that's pretty much it - I want close platonic connection with them, nothing more.

This suggest social dominance and/or that what you are seeking is a deep social connection, but you may want to read through this page, especially the section about social vs. sx attraction. Sx involves deep psychological nudity as part of the connection -- being raw, real, provocative, as part of attracting someone else is in the domain of sx-dom. You could be so/sp.

I've been informed that it doesn't come across this way, and I come off very flirtatious and romantically interested in them, and a lot of my friendships ended because people started to developing crushes on me (with both men and women, so I don't think that the problem is in men thinking that every woman interested in being friends wants a relationship), thinking that the feelings are mutual. I am honestly quite oblivious to flirting and I can't really tell if someone likes me before they flat-out tell me about it. I know that I am very intense but I genuinely don't understand why people think I'm flirty since I am just being myself. When people confess their love to me it upsets me because it's never what I want - it takes a great force for me to open up to someone, and when they learn that I am not interested in a relationship, the friendship usually also ends, leaving me wounded with even more trust issues. I am always very straightforward about not looking for a romantic relationship but EVERYONE seems think that they must be an exception.

So... could it be the evidence that I am sx-blind?

You sound so/sp, yes. There's a certain level of stand-offish energy to so/sp, where the boundary of sp is drawn after the friendliness of social. It also depends on your personality type, frankly. If you are a social, outgoing, animated person, you may seem more flirtatious than you intend to be. EFJs and EPs are especially prone to this.

#question #subtype #enneagram #instincts

Can anyone guess what this has to do with my new fic “Burnout”? 👀

#firebender #firebend #subtype #legend of korra fanfic #legend of korra #fanfiction #ao3 #burnout #Lin Beifong #x reader #oc #smolder bending

Crossplaygender

A gender that is tied to crossplay.

A subgender of crossgender and cosplaygender.

Similar to kingender and fictigender but not essentially it since this could be regardless of character.

new kin term

so i recently saw an ask on @beyond-mogai-pride-flags about being kin with someone who’s tiger-kin (its reblogged on my blog if you wanna see the ask) and asking for a word for that, and as someone who also experiences this in my own way (when i was ponyo i was ocean-kin, but i myself in this timeline am not ocean-kin) i thought i would help coin a word for this.

introducing: subtype!

this describes an experience where you yourself are not kin with a being, but one of your kintypes is kin with said being. using myself as an example, i have an ocean subtype!!

feel free to reblog with your own commentary (only comment if you are otherkin/alterhuman please) and help spread this term!!

#otherkin #alterhuman #coining #kin #subtype #fictionkin