Hi Xan hope your week is well !! I've been heavily referencing your guide to making clothes for trans sims and it's really helpful ! But I'm having issues with the pants specifically T_T I made my leggings for both fem and masc frames and followed your recommended flags and I'm having gaps on the waistband for both FTM and MTF sims :pensive: unsure if it's a mesh issue or a flag issue for me honestly :( thank u in advance !!
Hey there @suzukipc! Pants are tricky. Accessory leggings/tights don't have a mesh, so they shouldn't have any gender-issues--they're just smacked on the body--but leggings as pants do. I'd have to see your files to be sure, but if you mean Skin Tight Pants (Leggings in S4S), that might be a mesh issue, due to the way they're made--but tagging can factor in? Let me put something together...
(4 hours later) ...Okay. In trying to figure out how to help, my answer turned into...a tutorial. Sorry about that! So, here we go:
Troubleshooting: Tagging Trans Sim Bottoms
So. These leggings are from Discover University, made for AF Frame. (Note the Age & Gender flag, set to Female. That's the base they were built on, not who can use them. I'll get back to what this does.)
I've made 3 copies, and tagged them all different ways to show what would happen. Dragging Carmen and Erik back into this, guest-starring Roxie as cis control:
Roxie's fine either way, because her frame and gender match. Carmen is okay-ish, but Erik is...not. AF-Frame meshes break on trans-masc Sims, essentially shoving their hip-bones into their ribs. We saw that in the tutorial, so no surprise there.
For science, let's do the same thing with the AM version of this same mesh, with Henry as control this time.
Generally okay? Carmen's hips are in AM position, which looks fine. Erik really never win with pants, but that's the best we get most times. At least his torso is intact! (This is why I recommend using AM Frame if there aren't meshes for each Frame. It works well enough.)
I've gone over all this before--but there is one thing I didn't cover. Remember the Age & Gender tags I mentioned earlier? Some creators check both genders here, and the results are...not great if the mesh is based on the body, which is the case with leggings. The game (best as I can tell) tries to enforce the mesh's original Frame, with weird results for everyone. Here's what happens when you toggle both genders under A&G: AF Mesh, and AM Mesh.
So, AF mesh: Carmen now has a bubble butt, love-handles, and weirdly skinny AF-Frame legs. Erik's waist is cracked, again. (Sorry, Erik.) AM Mesh: Erik has AM-Frame legs and hips--and Carmen has become a magician's assistant. (Sorry, Carmen.) Note that Roxie and Henry are fine, because their gender and frame match the meshes. Can't break something made for them.
But if it's not for them? It'll break them too.
It's even worse on fullbody meshes...but that's an aside, and I'll post about it another time. I feel compelled.
If you see your problem here, hopefully you have your answer! If not, that's okay. Just send us another message and I'll have a look at the files for you, if you like. (I promise not to send you another tutorial. ;B)
To everyone else: if this helped you, remember to share. Never know who might need the info. Thanks for reading, and Happy Simming. :3
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Anyways, regularly scheduled art will be resumed soon! Frog has quite a bit of sketches to get back to
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