#systemhood

[battle-for-dyke-island]

being plural is telling ur family “I’m plural” and them going “that’s scary, go see a therapist, they’ll know more than me” and then you tell ur therapist “I’m plural” and they say “I know nothing about that”

[thevoillohiarchive]

[theconcordiaproject]

A question for the plural community:

If a new plural-focused app like Concordia were created, what features would you want to see?

What works well in current tools like Simply Plural or Octocon? What features feel missing or could be improved?

The goal of The Concordia Project is to build something shaped by the community, so hearing what people actually want from a plural app is incredibly valuable! Sharing this post helps a lot!

[antiendoastro]

its pretty early in the day for me but heres some daily reminders <3

you do not owe anyone your diagnosis status

you do not owe anyone your system's information

don't share your triggers online (+ dont put them in pluralkit. pluralkit is not private unless you individually set every single member as private)

you are not faking just because your mind quiets down

p-did & osdd-1a systems are valid

endos dont exist - it contradicts the entire meaning of what a system even is and how it develops! your experiences most likely are not "endogenic systemhood".

having a multi-facetted identity is normal

introjects arent their sources but that doesnt mean you force introjects in systems youve never met before to source seperate

there's probably more im forgetting so feel free to add more daily reminder things if you want <3 you are loved!

[anti-willo-miku]

Sending love to trans systems btw you guys are amazing people and deserve nothing but joy.

[mindwrms]

got pissed off at someone online so heres your friendly reminder that endogenic plurality ≠ did/osdd plurality and no one is saying it does.

plurality, multiplicity, “parts”, and systemhood is a concept that exists on its own. it is severely understudied in a medical sense but highly documented throughout history, and it exists as a separate thing from did & osdd.

think of it like a umbrella term in the same way you would trans, or neurodivergent, or bread. they all exist as a general thing but theres also multiple more specific types under each category. did systems and osdd systems are their own individual types of systems and plurality, and endogenic systems are a different type of plurality. they are not exactly the same thing although they fall under the same umbrella term and share similar experiences.

you can not have did or osdd without trauma as far as the research shows, however did and osdd is not synonymous with plurality as a whole and other types of plurality can be experienced without trauma.

[kandibah]

r/plural mods for you on mods pinging us when we say not to for health related reasons. no, they do not have to ping me. staff have communicated fine with me without pinging me. it can cause migraines, seizures and more for people. respect fucking boundaries. staff or not. ableist pieces of shit.

Edit : once given proof of my memory being stupid with the rules. I have removed the anti-endo tags. I thought anti endos were allowed, they are not and I apologise.

[fleeting-foxes]

hello! here from your reply on a post and wanted to ask if u could elaborate on ourcana's dev and co-dev stuff? we havent seen any info on it before your reply

Of course!! I'll put it all under a cut just to prevent flooding anything. CW below for discussions of Nazis, Labor camps, Generative A.I, and harmful rhetoric. No DNI on this post.

[ Edit 04/15 ;; Censored out names of those not involved in Ourcana developer's behaviours + added more information as it's been found ]

So, for one, I'd seen this personally on the dev's blog when looking for evidence on other claims, which was eugh ->

I don't know if I need to explain why that's bad and/or just overall ignorant, LOL. Also, it's strange to me that they out of nowhere came back to Tumblr a week ago, despite being seemingly inactive for 8 YEARS. Is it just me or. Idk. (Additionally: Ourcana's developer has since had to make a new blog named myonmyonmyonmyonmyon)

The developer is also "entheogenic" , which from what I've seen isn't on pluralpedia, so it's not a well-known endogenic origin. If I am to guess, it's some form of purposeful spiritual systemhood, guessing by the suffixes. ("en-" means "in or part of", "theo-" means "god/deity", so maybe it means "part of god" systemhood?? idk. your guess is as good as mine) [The developer has since "clarified" that it was where tulpagenic systems originated??? wtv]

(i couldn't understand 90% of this. if anyone else does understand PLEASE tell me what it means because I can't wrap my head around it. Regardless though the whole "I'm entheogenic, and so can you!" feels so. Eugh.)

Now for the big "oh god" of the developer: the Nazi jokes.

Now, here you can see Heni (Linux) being caught on TWO seperate occasions making jokes about labor camps, nazism, concentration camps, and comparing online discourse to nazism. After beings didn't respond well to the jokes (which, who would??), they went out to essentially just state "This isn't the environment for me to say these things, can we get back to developing now?" — entirely disregarding the sensitive nature of the jokes. They then on THIS post proceeded to state that it was okay since they were raised Jewish, but I digress.

Heni making nazi/labor camp jokes I have also been given proof of, which is here:

(if you aren't in support of them or anything, WHY would you joke and say that those with different stances that you regard as "woke bigotry" should be put in them?)

The apology is also pretty disingenuine imo. Regardless of if it even WAS a space where you can say that, WHY would you, especially when you are an adult (IN THEIR 30s IIRC.) and ACKNOWLEDGE how heavy the topic even is? You shouldn't EVER joke about something like that, full stop. Don't shove it off to the side?? when you're excusing something that drastic??? As well as just seeing their community accept the apology right off the bat when it is SO obviously half-assed just irks me.

Additionally, the main dev has been banned from PluralKit's server for something involving AI (I'm still looking into this myself), but they do discuss that they did NOT use A.I in coding itself, but for other things. Respectfully, at least to me, their whole apology reads very A.I-neutral/positive to me. -> Later on they have been seeing sucking up to Sophie-In-Wonderland, a notoriously gross endogenic system whom has public C.AI bots advertized on their page for forming tulpas. A generative A.I bot cannot tell you how to undergo a heavily spiritual practice.

Heni also openly goes out of their way on their main blog to harass anti-endos, and argues that "DNIs are manipulative because they tell you what to think and what not to do to someone". What?

Said link they use as "evidence" is a narcissism abuse link that does not regard narcissism as a cluster B disorder like it... isn't one?? It's a disorder not some criminal activity.

I ran out of image space, as I'm on Mobile, but I can prove evidence of these claims as well