#thramsay for ts

[janiedean]

Theon + Your Choice, Circus AU and Huddling for Warmth please?

RIGHT sooo let’s make it throbb for old times’ sake

DEPRESSION AU AGAIN BECAUSE CIRCUS!DEPRESSION AUS ARE MY THING apparently: theon quite literally Runs Away To Join The Circus bc his father’s an asshole and they don’t have money at home and ends up with roose’s first where he’s put on basically janitor duty/doing the heavy lifting etc because roose doesn’t technically need anyone else and ramsay decided to hire him, ofc it’s to make his life shitty and obviously he ends up sleeping outside/with the dogs/in extremely cold places and It’s Winter During The Depression

so, a few months go away like this and he’s despairing of ever making a decent life when they end up in the same town where ned’s circus is and after discussing it for a bit they agree to join forces instead of splitting the audience and at that point ramsay (who probably does knife numbers or smth like that) has to work most of the time, which means that theon’s left to his own devices and starts like fake throwing knives at one of the targets in the back because who’s going to look at him right

casually robb who used to do like acrobatics but then stopped and now does talent scouting sees him do that and he’s like man you have good aim, theon shrugs and he’s like well I used to do archery before the economy crashed also I’m good at shooting but nothing that great, robb is like hmmmmmmmmm let me see, tests his skills a bit and he’s like yeah no wait you don’t actually have an act you’re wasted and convinces ned to buy his contract off roose who has no reason not to regardless of how much ramsay protests, except that in the stark side they don’t have any spare wagons so robb is like yeah np he can sleep with me, and theon’s like fuck do I get to sleep in a bed after being out for months and robb is waaait what the fuck do you mean and basically throws him under five blankets before sharing the bed, which turns into huddling for warmth because theon’s freezing which turns into more ofc u__u

[fleurdulys]

actually thr*msay is pretty bad, even she said they're both bad ships and that no one should ship one while attacking the other because it's hypocritical

i don't ship either but in all my time on this cursed website i have never come across untagged thramsay posts. or a thramsay post talking shit about people shipping throbb or whatever. i don't give a f what people ship or post on their own blogs, that's between them and their god, shipping isn't activism. however when you call jxb shippers misogynists, rape apologists and whatnot and call jxc true luv or try to say jaime is the same with c and call other people delusional cause they're not into your weird headcanons ... well houston we've got a problem.

[him-e]

@pips69 asked:

I've got a little AU-like question for the show. What if instead of trying to hold Winterfell, Theon did the Ironborn thing and put it to the torch before Sailing back to Pyke with valuables & hostages, one of them Ramsay if Theon would learn he's Roose's son? What might happen between them then? A friend and I were discussing this for a dark Theon/Ramsay idea.

Hi again! I think Ramsay would not easily allow Theon to do that, but try to outmaneuver him into staying in Winterfell anyway, because that’s where he can manipulate him more easily while advancing his own position. Hostage!Ramsay can still be the devil whispering in Theon’s ear (think of his ruse as fake!Reek in the books), playing him against Asha and Balon, etc., so we might eventually get to a situation where Theon fucks up completely and ends up in Ramsay’s hands as in OT, just through a different and much more convoluted path. Alternatively, if you’re into dark stuff, you could explore a full role reversal between them. It could go either way, but that’s about the extent of what I can speculate on this topic (elaborated what-if’s that depart too much from the canon storyline aren’t really my thing, I’m afraid, and neither is th*ramsay---I mean I find it a fascinating dynamic from a psychological perspective, but as a ship it gives me no joy).

If Tytos Lannister hadn’t died of a heart attack and lived until all three of his grand children by Tywin were grown up, what kind of relationship do you think he’d have with Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion?

Tytos was kind of Tywin’s polar opposite: prone to laughter, amicable and generous, probably affectionate in his relationships. If he lives, he’s still the head of house Lannister, which means he stays in Casterly Rock while Tywin is in King’s Landing to do his job as Hand, so it might be that the kids see their grandfather on a regular basis and know him even better than their own father. I can easily see Tytos spoiling them with gifts of all sorts and enjoying spending time with them, even Tyrion. Oh, Tyrion would love his grandpa, who laughs so hard when he does his tumbling tricks (I’m obviously modeling this on the relationship Tyrion had with Gerion, since Gerion seems to be the closest in personality to Tytos. Though I do wonder whether Tyrion would find in Tytos someone who really loves him, or just another person who sees him as a funny little creature). All in all, I suppose they would have a good relationship with him… unless they have internalized some of Tywin’s—and Joanna’s?—contempt for Tytos’ weakness. (especially Cersei.) We should also consider on what kind of terms Tywin and Tytos are in this scenario, and if Tywin is ok with letting his kids grow up around his idle and gullible father. So I have mixed feelings on this tbh.

May I ask your thoughts on the northern lords (and lady) supporting Jon rather than Sansa? I completely understand why they did and actually prefer it this way as I’m not the biggest fan of Sansa (I don’t hate her or really dislike her or anything but Ramsay was my favorite character up with Cersei and I really, really hate how he died) but I can see why others are unhappy about it. How do you feel about it? 

Discussed it here and I also have a tag for it, lol. :))

[janiedean]

are there any ships or characters you didn't like at first and then changed your mind?

... depends? I mean I was neutral on robb/jeynew until the show happened and it sent me straight on that train, also I wasn’t too big on theon/jeynep romantically just after I read adwd but now I’m like yeah sure they’re cute, I def. didn’t like theon very much throughout acok and I loved him by the end of adwd as I think is pretty much obvious and I def like loras now better than I did in 2011 when I generally didn’t care for either him or renly either way when it comes to asoiaf, for other fandoms.... meh, generally it’s the contrary ie I don’t mind something and then the fanbase or bad writing makes me hate it XD that said my level of physical distaste for th/ramsay has drastically went down in the last year for... let’s say obvious reasons lmao

[janiedean]

I need you to see this text my friend sent me this morning. "Okay so we're finally watching GoT and we're on the end of season 4 and I am very attracted to Ramsay and I'm not sorry. I know you love Theon and I'm sorry he's the one Ramsey is torturing. If it helps, my unwholesome attraction is independent of the person he is torturing." I am DYING lol

..... JESUS OKAY IT’S BEEN LONG ENOUGH THAT I’M ALSO LAUGHING LIKE HELL

[janiedean]

just block anti-thramsay

anon I don’t think you understood my point so I’ll make it again

I already have any thramsay tag blocked that can be blocked because I don’t ship thramsay so like whatever, I don’t give a fuck what happens on there. I care that people go on the theon greyjoy tag to spread drama to fuel their ridiculous power trips and when last time it happened they ended up triggering a bunch of people including close friends of mine and admitted to laughing about it publicly and they are framing their crusade as ***wanting to protect abuse victims*** when they don’t give a flying fuck about abuse victims and only care about victimizing other people to, dunno, feel better about themselves.

and I want people to know who the hell they’re dealing with, and given that I’ve been told this shit also happened in the jon/sa fandom and that they do it in cycles (hahahahaha), can you see why I find it rich they’re framing this as a crusade and us as the bad people?

I don’t have a problem with them insulting thramsay. I have a problem with them trying to stir wank in the theon tag on purpose and purposefully upsetting and triggering the people they say they’re doing this for.

clear? or do y’all need a power point?

ps: roosebolton, if this is you, I blocked you so do whatever the fuck you like, I’ve always used they when referring to you as I could see on your bio so idek what the fuck you’re talking about - because sure af I respect you enough to do it while you don’t respect any of us enough to actually shut the fuck up and let everyone else be - and the social worker thing was a joke, but idk, since you seem to be so invested in protecting and defending abuse victims from the horrible horrible problematic art they can block I suppose you have social worker instincts or why the hell would you care? :’D

if it’s not you, whatever, but again, you missed the fucking point.

ps: for the umpteenth time, I don’t ship thramsay, never have, never will, not my thing, it makes me sick to the stomach, I watched all of S4 without the audio in their scenes because otherwise I wanted to go vomit forreal, can y’all stop assuming I give a fuck about *the ship* and not about the problem that *you targeted the real people shipping it*?

[janiedean]

Are you really creating wank to complain about other people supposedly creating wank? Why not just take your own advice and scroll past their posts.

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1) they’re making bait posts on the tag so I certainly didn’t start it

2) I blocked them all at this point so I’m done with them, I did my job

3) as far as I know, warning people that some people who pretend to be worrying about abuse victims’s well-being are actually assholes who’d purposefully trigger abuse victims who don’t agree with them isn’t creating wank, it’s making sure people know they’re toxic assholes before engaging with them should they choose to do so

4) I made that post, roosebolton said they didn’t even care to read it, I told them to have a good life and I blocked them, I was done, but guess why in the last half hour I got, hmmm, three anons getting on my case, same as last time when I said I was done I got all of roosebolton’s and we know who else’s friends getting on my case

5) I mean, are you really creating wank. if they had canned it with their ridiculous crusade last october as they should have I would be here either sleeping or writing my t/hrobb secret santa fic or like, enjoying myself instead of even thinking about their existence

6) I took better than my own advice, since I blocked them all. I just want people to know they’re a bunch of toxic mean girls clique who tried to use on me every bullying technique in the book without realizing that I already experienced the real deal irl, that I’ve done enough therapy to figure out what the fuck they’re doing and that I’m too old for that shit. clear, dear? or do you really need a power point? 

because again, I don’t give a fuck about the ships, I give a fuck about y’all actually hurting people and then pretending you’re not.

now can you just, uh, dunno, fuck off? thank you. btw if you’re all trying to gang up on me to convince me I’m wrong you can go and stick that where the sun doesn’t shine.

[janiedean]

Posso farti una domanda? So che detesti quella ship, ma esiste anche un discourse per la the*on/ram*sey su quanto sia disgustosa e abusiva (perché li gli abusi ci sono stati) o è una cosa che riguarda solo la reylo? Perché tumblr è pieno di blog th*ramsey o anche hannigram(dove scippano hannibal lecter con will) ma non mi sembra ci sia stata l'ondata di indignazione della reylo? forse perché la reylo è etero quindi è il male a priori, mentre se shippi coppie gay sei automaticamente nel giusto?

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*SI ASCIUGA LE LACRIME*

anon il discourse sulla th/ramsay ci sta dalla terza stagione purtroppo X°DDDD all’epoca ci fu una mezza shipwar (su tumblr) th/robb vs th/ramsay che era finita con la gente più allucinata da entrambe le parti che ha mollato la fandom per fortuna, ma tipo una volta ogni sei mesi circa compare qualcuno a rompergli il cazzo sulla tag e OMG SIETE DELLEMMERDE UMANE e ormai pure noi che la thr/samsay la odiamo gli diciamo di lasciarli in pace, e l’ultima volta che è successo era ottobre scorso e c’era sto gruppo di mean girls idiote che voleva triggerare la gente a forza e stava a usa sta th/ramsay come se fosse iL MALE E LA GENTE CHE LI SHIPPAVA ERA DAMAGING TO ABUSE SURVIVORS e quando gli ho detto di piantarla mi hanno pure accusato di essere pedofila lascia stare XDDD

il problema non è che il discourse non c’è, è che con quelle tre ship ci stanno tre problemi diversi:

la ha/nnigram si sa che è na cosa molto poco healthy e il telefilm non ne fa mistero, e comunque SO PRATICAMENTE CANON cioè lì il punto è che nessuno shippa will e hannibal pensando che sono gente adorabile e la loro relazione è un modello, la shippano perché è morbosa/badwrong/pessima e così è stata impostata quindi nessuno si sconvolge, cioè alla fine di hannibal il film lui si metteva con clarice sterling tipo ed era lo stesso discorso, nessuno s’è messo le mani in testa perché nessuno la faceva passare come una storia d’amore splendida 

la th/ramsay c’ha il discourse su tumblr ma se la inculano giusto quelli che la shippano e voglio dì theon in se stesso come pg non c’ha tutta sta gran fanbase quindi IN FANDOM c’è ma fuori dalla fandom/tra i casual watchers non ha lo stesso peso di una jaime/brienne o di una dany/jon o quello che è, cioè non ha proprio lo stesso peso narrativo quindi sticazzi

la r/eylo è la relazione di punta dell’ultimo film di *guerre stellari* che è una cosa infinitamente più mainstream sia di hannibal che di got e quindi automaticamente attira più discourse, ma fuori da tumblr solo mia zia e qualche altra anima in pena pensano che la r/eylo sia EWWW, se vedi le recensioni è la cosa che piaceva di più ai critici XD cioè ci sta più discourse perché è un franchise più grande e ha peso narrativo, che poi il fatto che sia m/f RENDA LA COSA PEGGIORE non c’è dubbio (infatti il discourse sulla jb e sulla jc è ugualmente frustrante e se non parlassimo di coppie etero vorrei vede la gente che direbbe) ma davvero è proprio peso narrativo/importanza del franchise, e tra l’altro le prime due ship sono badwrong e basta (anche se la prima è codipendenza e la seconda è proprio badwrong brutto), la r/eylo parte male e deve finì bene per trope narrativi quindi XDDDD cioè non sono proprio coppie che hanno cose in comune ecco XD

poi vb figurati non è che parlare della t/ramsay mi crea disagi, basta che non me fate vedere le fanart e non me la fate leggere poi fate quello che ve pare xD